Perkins Gen-set

[dru penland]

Unfortunately not entirely correct.Breakers do age with use. Fatigue is something that may not be overcome with use. By use, I mean feeding a current through and any current at that rate. Everything electrtical is subject to expansion and contraction and on a molecular level can damage bonds weekening the product use after use. Not to say things can't be made to last a lifetime, like the BB is self. Infact, it's too bad some of the products BB had to use because there just wern't better suppliers is the only thing I really have go wrong on me...like my Bryant breaker. As a professional engineer, I know everythingages with use. Heck, I'm asked to design around that aspect everyday. Make it last long enough to satisfy the customer and he'll come back and buy another one from you. Depending on thedesign, some things age better than others. The breaker used for my application is a Bryantwhich is not the same quality as others.

You all have a FANTASTIC DAY and THANK YOU MR. FULLENWIDER FOR YOUR HELP!

Dru and Debora
Corpus Christi, TX
1983 FC 35 RB
Steady Gittin' It!

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From: GARY MINKER
To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2009 1:09:12 PM
Subject: Re: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: Perkins Gen-set

The 80% thing is quite right but breakers do not age. If they are not rotten, cracked or shattered, they are fine. What ages or more correctly weakens their ability to withstand rated trip current is repetitive tripping. This dulls the pawl finger that holds the latch engaged. This is why manufacturers say not to cycle breakers or use them as switches. Gary --- On Fri, 9/11/09, freewill2008 comcast.net> wrote: From: freewill2008 Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: Perkins Gen-set To: WanderlodgeForum@ yahoogroups. com Date: Friday, September 11, 2009, 1:04 PM Thank you YAHOO. This is yesterday's news. - Bob --- In WanderlodgeForum@ yahoogroups. com, "freewill2008" wrote: > > I totally agree with Greg about being sure there is not an overload in the bus causing the tripped breaker - but it is worth noting that AC breakers can run a bit hot even when the electrical load is within the rating. As a result, the breaker can "break down" after 26 years and should probably be replaced. > > The same is true of the breakers in the panel of your RV or your house. They don't last forever. > > Finally, a breaker is designed to support a continuous load that is 80% of the rating, so a 50 amp breaker should only be loaded to 40 amps, etc. > > Bob Griesel '84 FC31 WLII WA > > --- In WanderlodgeForum@ yahoogroups. com, "gregoryoconnor" wrote: > > > > a blown fuse and circuit breaker are usually the result of a problem and not the problem. > > > > I once viewed a consumer watchdog news sting where a woman car owner went into a auto repair shop for 'windshield wiper not turning on repair'. several shops replaced the news team installed bad fuse and sent her on her way. One shop spent a methodical 3/4 hour trying to figure why the fuses blew respecting the customers safety in probable traffic during a downpour which is the test period for repair. I felt the shops in error were those only replacing the fuse and not researching or finding the problem. > > > > One issue I know very little about is lost neutral and the return of ac current thru the other leg????????? A heat cooked breaker can be the genset ambient environment or the tripping damage of the breaker doing its job > > > > One other issue is the bonding of a genset made ac within a motorhome. I can only assume that it is to be onboard bonded unlike onboard bonding or shorepower ac. > > > > Just flipping a switch and repowering 50 amps without finding the problem can cause 49 amp of hurt when a repeat of the event that caused the trip shows different result. > > > > I test my swimmingpool light with a tennisball. It's > > difficult to get a dog to turn on the toaster in my bus so I would look for the true problem and not the quick fix. > > > > Greg ofTim&Greg > > 94ptca > > > > > > --- In WanderlodgeForum@ yahoogroups. com, dru penland wrote: > > > > > > THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU!!! > > > > > > It's the breaker in the generator house.It won't close the circuit. Looks a little toasty, as well. > > > > > > Your too good and too kind with your knowledge.Thanks again! > > > Dru and Debora > > > Corpus Christi, TX > > > 1983 FC 35 RB > > > Steady Gittin' It! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > From: Ralph Fullenwider > > > To: WanderlodgeForum@ yahoogroups. com > > > Sent: Tuesday, September 8, 2009 2:00:20 PM > > > Subject: Re: [WanderlodgeForum] Perkins Gen-set > > > > > > > > > Oh, and reset the lower left GFI breaker in the main panel in the closet, if it is leg 2. > > > > > > Safe travels, > > > > > > Ralph & Charolette Fullenwider > > > '84 FC 35 "Ruff Diamond" > > > Duncan, Oklahoma > > > > > > At 11:52 AM 9/8/2009 -0700, you wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Thank you so much, Ralph! I can't wait for the clock to 4 so I can go check it out. I felt sick when this happened to me. I just felt $$$ coming out of my pocket. It appears from the wiring schematic that the fan motor for the generator radiator is 220v. It's running like it always has. If it's truly 220v then I should have full power on the back side of these breakers you are referring to? That would be so FANTASTIC! > > > > > > > >Thanks again, > > > > > > > >Dru and Debora > > > >Corpus Christi, TX > > > >1983 FC 35 RB > > > >Steady Gittin' It! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Dru: > > > > > > > >Have you checked the breakers located in the gen set compartment on the curb side wall? Re sent those, then if no power, remove the cover and check voltage on both sides of bother breakers to be sure it is not a faulty breaker. > > > > > > > >Safe travels, > > > > > > > >Ralph & Charolette Fullenwider > > > >'84 FC 35 "Ruff Diamond" > > > >Duncan, Oklahoma > > > > > > > >At 10:18 AM 9/8/2009 -0700, you wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Hellos All! > > > >> > > > >>Just got back fro a mini trip and lost one leg of my generator. When I fired it up and transferred from shore to gen, the Perkins took a little dip in rpm and I lost the curb side power. I didn't find any circuit breakers tripped and the volt meter on the info panel shows no voltage on that one side. Are there other protections that could have tripped or am I into major repairs? > > > >> > > > >> > > > >>Thanks! > > > >> > > > >>Dru and Debora > > > >>Corpus Christi, TX > > > >>1983 FC 35 RB > > > >>Steady Gittin' It! > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > Safe travels, > > > > > > Ralph & Charolette Fullenwider > > > '84 FC 35 "Ruff Diamond" > > > Duncan, Oklahoma > > > > > >