Intellectual Property arrives at Parliament Coach Corp. Clearwater, Fl.

[Greg Young]

I agree with Pete that all the resources are valuable... I've saved myself immense time, money and effort thanks to the folks particularly on this group, and made our experience as Bluebird owners much richer. While I've met only a few in person I consider everyone here a friend. I hope to meet more of you as time passes. And as a moderator and owner on other Yahoo groups, I understand how difficult it can be to keep the peace, and offer my thanks to Ernie for doing that quite well. And taking a breath to relax and let some of our offended feelings float away is probably a good thing.

And with that in mind, I would like to suggest that just because one may infer an offense doesn't mean it was intended. In real life I find myself taking offense at all sorts of things that have nothing to do with me, and someone
(usually my wife) has to remind me that it isn't all about me. As a somewhat less interested party on this topic, I saw Greg's comments as simply informative, and at the worst constructive criticism not of the work that Ernie and the many very active and knowledgeable posters do, but more of some of the inherent limitations of each of the online tools we use. But maybe I'm wrong. Maybe he was sitting there thinking while he wrote his note "I'll get back at them - but it'll be subtle enough that some will just think it's tech talk."

"We don't see things as they are, we see them as we are". Anais Nin

Thanks
Greg Young
86 PT40 "Bluefire"
Back at home base in Escondido CA after 6 months
and 15,000 miles on the road. Our trip map: http://www.communitywalk.com/bluefire2009

Each time you judge yourself you break your heart.
-Kirpal Venanji

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From: pgchd To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thu, October 29, 2009 6:13:21 AM
Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: Intellectual Property arrives at Parliament Coach Corp. Clearwater,
Fl.

My apologies,forgot to manually sign as I do not post much here:



Pete Chin

95 42'

Daytona Beach, FL



--- In "WanderlodgeForum%40yahoogroups.com", "pgchd" wrote:

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> It is my view that all 4 forums and all formal and informal bluebird/wanderlodg e clubs are valuable and contribute to the longevity of the brand and helps people fix their equipment. We,as a team, are in far better shape than some of the other "orphans" out there in the industry. If they didn't provide value,they would not have a membership / following. Now, with that said...

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> As a point of information, not pointing any fingers at ANYONE, just for those who have never seen this before...... ..

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> "Troll (Internet)

> From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

> "Do not feed the trolls" and its abbreviation DNFTT redirect here. For the Wikimedia essay, see "What is a troll?".

> In Internet slang, a troll is someone who posts controversial, inflammatory, irrelevant, or off-topic messages in an online community, such as an online discussion forum, chat room or blog, with the primary intent of provoking other users into an emotional response[1] or of otherwise disrupting normal on-topic discussion."

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> - forums are a lot like national parks..... "signs post to not feed the wild animals".... ..but people still do and I guess forums will always feed the trolls, after all, they still need to eat!!!!!!:-)

> HAHAHAHHHAHAHA - just a joke........ .. to inject levity!!!!!

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> - On a more serious note, some good came from this thread, I was bored yesterday so I tried the suggested search... I used the word "classified" in the string so I could bring up wanderlodges for sale...... which it did, but it also brought up the "members list" from Bruce's forum....... not good ( get it, classified list). Now I know Randy's forum just upgraded their software last week and his list DID NOT show up......... so my best guess is their is a "bug" in v bulletin software.... .. and also proves someone's earlier point that everyone's contribution is important BUT a little common courtesy for our fellow members would go a LONGGGGGG way!

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> --- In "WanderlodgeForum%40yahoogroups.com", Ernie Ekberg wrote:

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> > Thanks Pete, This forum has been part of my heart and sometimes comments get to me.

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> > Ernie Ekberg

> > 83PT40

> > Wanderlodge

> > Weatherford, Tx 817-475-3991

> > http://autos. groups.yahoo. com/group/ erniesremodeling andrepair

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> > --- On Wed, 10/28/09, Pete Masterson wrote:

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> > From: Pete Masterson

> > Subject: Re: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: Intellectual Property arrives at Parliament Coach Corp. Clearwater, Fl.

> > To: "WanderlodgeForum%40yahoogroups.com"

> > Date: Wednesday, October 28, 2009, 7:50 PM

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> > Now you see why Greg gets "banned."

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> > I happen to think both groups have unique values all their own. That's why I participate in both of them. WOG also has a certain value, too ... but I never really got going with that one. (There's only so much time in the day...)

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> > Ernie, you have a great discussion list and it is quite valuable. Don't let un-thinking comments get you down.

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> > Pete Masterson

> > (former) '95 Blue Bird Wanderlodge WBDA 42

> > El Sobrante CA

> > aeonix1@mac. com

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> > On Oct 28, 2009, at 4:03 PM, Ernie Ekberg wrote:

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> > " WOO will eventually have the best content and be the most trusted"

> > What the hell- you think this forum is just chopped liver. ??? Not on my watch.

> > I think we are doing a damn good job doing what we are doing. I'm not a very happy owner right now.

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> > Ernie Ekberg

> > 83PT40

> > Wanderlodge

> > Weatherford, Tx 817-475-3991

> > http://autos. groups.yahoo. com/group/ erniesremodeling andrepair

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> > --- OnWed, 10/28/09, gregory Owrote:

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> > From: gregory O

> > Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: Intellectual Property arrives at Parliament Coach Corp. Clearwater, Fl.

> > To:WanderlodgeForum @ yahoogroups. com

> > Date: Wednesday, October 28, 2009, 1:05 PM

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> > No it was a management list found surfing the site. I go to woo for info, I find the site informative. you don't have to be a member to find anything if you master boolean terms for query's you can search the woo site with google.

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> > Like you say, this yahoo site does not gate open the files for view of bots, spyders etc which are search engine readers that take the stats and key terms from woo and do with the terms and info as Dewey did with a library card catalog back when. that limits the chance that a good, welth rich poster will get the chance to enrich the contents with posts because the yahoo site is hidden from Search engine surfing. Woo will eventually have the best content and be the most trusted.

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> > One danger of one trusted source I realized was ; in 2005 a yahoo member that had a bus for sale called me on the phone asking if I would talk it up on the site. The dialogue started with his other friends and I turned into a prick when I gave my true opinion on the hype not the bus when I had fear that someone would rely on the information that gained credibility with unfounded testimonials in print on the site. I later hyped what I still fell to be a good bus and deal that someone lost a one grand deposit on based on my boasted opinion. It cost me 4 hours off my legal retainer to get his grand back, The tuition held value.

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> > 94ptca

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