Block Heater

[GARY MINKER]

DANGER it is not the excessive smoke that is the problem, it is not smoke at all!! It is atomized unburned RAW FUEL that the engine spits out, loads up your turbo and muffler with and when it gets nice and hot, EXPLODES, taking the turbo and muffler with it as shrapnel. The block heater insures oil flow, bearing lube, liner lube and tons more. If smoke was the only issue, so what. You are talking about destroying your motor and a possible fire. Oil heaters are a waste if there is no lube pre-pressure pump. Gary 85pt40 --- On Sat, 1/30/10, freewill2008 wrote: From: freewill2008 Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: Block Heater, was: Boilers (was: Residential fridges) To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com Date: Saturday, January 30, 2010, 5:39 PM I'd say you made the right call. I'm in Olympia and have never needed a block heater. It did start a bit dirty during the cold weather in Dec. but that cleared up quickly. Bob Griesel '84 FC31 WLII Olympia, WA --- In WanderlodgeForum@ yahoogroups. com, "peterfc33" wrote: > > I am new to the group and new to forums in General. My '83 FC33 with Cat 3208 had the circulation pump/engine pre heater burn out. My commercial truck mechanic ordered a Kim Hot Start, the best available but at $500 bucks a pretty steep price. At my local NAPA store I found a Kat's Circulation Tank Heater package 3343-10, relabeled NAPA 605-3344. It's 120volt, 1500W and cost $58. The Kim was 3 weeks for delivery so we cancelled. I suspect the quality is not nearly the same but I am not a commercial user nor am I running the pre heater 24/7 as a stand by generator in a hospital. The concequence of the heater failing is excessive smoke during warm up and I'm not in a super cold climate so it's really not critical. > Peter, Seattle > > --- In WanderlodgeForum@ yahoogroups. com, "pattypape" wrote: > > > > > > > > many 3208's have a tank coolant heater, They incorporate a > > circulation pump. there are several brands available. > > A quick search show an examples of both at JC Whitney: > > > > http://www.jcwhitne y.com/Engine- Heaters/60000164 8.jcw? > > TID=8041414& VT=sch&gclid= CN2d=rrav5ECFQp7 PAodDwegCw > > > > Our 3208 had a 110V block plug heater and a circulating pump. > > > > Bill 88 FC Michigan > > > > > > --- In WanderlodgeForum@ yahoogroups. com, "Donald Watson" > > wrote: > > > > > > Brad, > > > > > > Thanks for the clarification about type and placement of the heating > > > element. When you heat the oil pan, you're probably not heating > > the entire > > > engine as uniformly as a coolant heater, but does this matter? I'm > > not > > > criticizing your installation, simply trying to understand the > > operation. I > > > am sure you are heating the engine, but I don't think the lube oil > > is > > > circulating like the closed loop coolant will. Now I understand > > how you > > > might have been given a warning about a potential problem. > > > > > > There is probably a good reason why Stewart and Stevenson installed > > a pan > > > heater in your Detroit. The common place to install a generic 3208 > > coolant > > > heater is occupied by the 2 sets of 1" npt coolant ports used by > > the two > > > coolant loops. I have to investigate the plug in the front of the > > engine > > > underneath the air compressor. I don't know if this is a coolant > > port and, > > > if so, what clearance is behind it. > > > > > > Thank you. > > > > > > Donn > > > 76FC33 > > > North Kingstown, RI > > > > > > > > > > > > From: WanderlodgeForum@ yahoogroups. com > > > [mailto:WanderlodgeForum@ yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of brad barton > > > Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2008 2:42 PM > > > To: wanderlodgeforum@ yahoogroups. com > > > Subject: RE: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: Block Heater, was: Boilers (was: > > > Residential fridges) > > > > > > Mine was placed on the side of the oilpan. > > > > > > Brad Barton 00LXiDFW > > > bbartonwx@ > > > > > > To: WanderlodgeForum@ yahoogroups. com > > > From: billpatty@ > > > Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2008 19:34:27 +0000 > > > Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: Block Heater, was: Boilers (was: > > Residential > > > fridges) > > > > > > Most block heaters, heat the coolant, not the oil, > > School > > > buses are > > > plugged into power overnight. > > > > > > Bill 88 FC Michigan > > > > > > --- In WanderlodgeForum@ yahoogroups. com, brad barton > > > <bbartonwx@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > All I know is what I've been told by the people who > > > installed it- > > > Stewart and Stevenson in Dallas. I think I also saw a > > > mention of > > > that earlier on this forum. I'm sure there are > > different > > > ratings of > > > block heaters- some more likely to burn oil than > > others. If > > > this is > > > an old wives' tale such as swimming after eating or > > crossing > > > your > > > eyes, I apologize. Brad Barton 00LXiDFWbbartonwx@ > > > > > >