Powder Balancing

[randydupree]

it has a small gaurd/shield to keep the powder in when you release air from the
stem,it keeps the powder from clogging the core..randydupree93wb
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Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: Powder Balancing


I did not know that there was anything different about the valve
core . I thought they just put the colored bands on them to show to the
next tire mechanic that the tires infact had equal in them. What would
be the difference in the valve core ??? Bob 93pt illinois




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[fred89sp]

I understand that has been a problem but I believe that Equal now
supplies a special valve core with a filter that takes care of this.

I have used Equal for seven or eight years in my Bird and before that
with my SOB. The dealer I have done business with for twenty years
recommends it and I have been happy with the product.

Michelin does not endorse the use of Equal or comparable products.

--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "pattypape"
wrote:
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> Does anyone have experience with the power clogging up the tire
> stem/valves??
> Bill 88 FC
>
> --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, George Lowry
> wrote:
> > Hi Jon,
> >
> > There are at least two different "powder" materials that are used
> for
> > balancing of tires. The one I am familiar with is "Equal". I
> have
> > used it on two coaches so far and I believe it is superior to the
> > Centromatics balancers that I used to have. What they do is put
> a
> > measured amount in your tire in a package. The package
> disintegrates
> > in a couple of hundred miles and then you have complete usage. As
> the
> > tire turns, the powder redistributes itself so as to keep the
> > tire/wheel in balance. I have bee told that is also tends to keep
> the
> > tread flatter against the road surface giving you better traction.
> >
> > To my knowledge, Equal is only available for the larger truck/bus
> > tires. I have been told that they are working on a formula that
> will
> > work on the smaller (more turns per mile) tires for cars. The
> other
> > brand, which I cannot remember the name of right now, claims that
> > theirs will work in any size tire. It sure is nice not having to
> > rebalance every so often...
> >
> > BTW, I have Equal in all eight tires.
> >
> > George Lowry
> > '95 WBDA 4203 & GM 4106 (for sale)
> > Spearfish, SD
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> > Jon wrote:
> >
> > > What does this mean? Jon
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[randydupree]

tom.the tire guy i use has a clear glass jar with a bag of equal in it along
with a cup of water.its been sitting on his counter for years.there is no
clumping in this jar..is there different types of equal? smooth or clumpy?
also,i understand that the beads will rust and stick together if your coach sits
for a while.is that true?damn,i guess the golf balls were the right thing to use
after all. any insight on this matter ? randydupree93wb
----- Original Message -----
From: jon lechich
To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2005 12:34 AM
Subject: Re: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: Powder Balancing


Is this rebounding characteristic that noticeable when you do not have this
material in your tires? Does it make for a smoother ride? Jon
Jon Lechich
Bremerton Washington

Tom Warner wrote:
The valve core has a filter in it so that the powder cannot get into the
valve stem and cause it to stick. Make sure if you do get equal that you
get these valve stems installed.

Actually I would not install equal in a RV tire unless you are going to put
a lot of miles on the tires. If it sits for any length of time and there is
even the slightest amount of water vapor in the tire the equal may clump.
Truckers use it and do not have these problems because the tires are
constantly moving.

On the other hand I have about 40# of Counteract balancing beads a compound
which I believe is better for RV use. I am not a dealer and do not intend
to sell it although I have the equipment and the product to both inject the
beads thru the vavle stem on a installed tire and the bags that are thrown
into the casing on new tires.

http://www.wheelweights.com/cbb-brochure.pdf#search='counteract%20balancing%20be\
ads'

Counteract balancing beads differ from equal in that the composition of the
beads and the fact that water moisture does not effect it. In addition
counteract balancing beads come in two different compositions one for cars
and one for trucks or RVs. The two different beads are engineered for the
different tire rebounding characteristics between cars and trucks.

I now have it in my steer tires and when I install the new tires will
install it in both the steers and the rear duals.

tom
1982 FC35
Vernon Center,NY




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> I did not know that there was anything different about the valve
>core . I thought they just put the colored bands on them to show to the
>next tire mechanic that the tires infact had equal in them. What would
>be the difference in the valve core ??? Bob 93pt illinois
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[Tom Warner]

jax when you post a response like this no one knows what you are responding
to. Leave the original message and then respond to it at the top.

tom
1982 FC35
Vernon Center,NY

At 02:38 AM 6/21/2005 -0400, you wrote:
> yes,,, i had it happen on the two new front tires i just had
>installed,, day,, jax fla 83 pt-40
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[pattypape]

Yep, Randy, (dozen balls here)(Tiger Woods Specials)

We have six gulf balls in each steer tire, Found them when we had a
leaky valve stem replaced. The previous owner had a tire guy, that
believed, this was the best way to balance. Our coach handles
fine, goes straight and does not vibrate. Some have said that golf
balls could damage the inside of the tire, but they do not clog the
valves. I am happy for now, but am confused about the best method
for balancing. We will purchase tires latter this year. (need to
make a decision)

Bill 88 FC Who never did like to golf, just really terrible

--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, randydupree
wrote:
> tom.the tire guy i use has a clear glass jar with a bag of equal
in it along with a cup of water.its been sitting on his counter for
years.there is no clumping in this jar..is there different types of
equal? smooth or clumpy? also,i understand that the beads will rust
and stick together if your coach sits for a while.is that true?
damn,i guess the golf balls were the right thing to use after all.
any insight on this matter ? randydupree93wb
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: jon lechich
> To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2005 12:34 AM
> Subject: Re: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: Powder Balancing
>
>
> Is this rebounding characteristic that noticeable when you do
not have this material in your tires? Does it make for a smoother
ride? Jon
> Jon Lechich
> Bremerton Washington
>
> Tom Warner wrote:
> The valve core has a filter in it so that the powder cannot get
into the
> valve stem and cause it to stick. Make sure if you do get equal
that you
> get these valve stems installed.
>
> Actually I would not install equal in a RV tire unless you are
going to put
> a lot of miles on the tires. If it sits for any length of time
and there is
> even the slightest amount of water vapor in the tire the equal
may clump.
> Truckers use it and do not have these problems because the tires
are
> constantly moving.
>
> On the other hand I have about 40# of Counteract balancing beads
a compound
> which I believe is better for RV use. I am not a dealer and do
not intend
> to sell it although I have the equipment and the product to both
inject the
> beads thru the vavle stem on a installed tire and the bags that
are thrown
> into the casing on new tires.
> http://www.wheelweights.com/cbb-brochure.pdf#search='counteract%
20balancing%20beads'
>
> Counteract balancing beads differ from equal in that the
composition of the
> beads and the fact that water moisture does not effect it. In
addition
> counteract balancing beads come in two different compositions
one for cars
> and one for trucks or RVs. The two different beads are
engineered for the
> different tire rebounding characteristics between cars and
trucks.
>
> I now have it in my steer tires and when I install the new tires
will
> install it in both the steers and the rear duals.
>
> tom
> 1982 FC35
> Vernon Center,NY
>
>
>
>
> bAt 03:05 AM 6/21/2005 +0000, you wrote:
> > I did not know that there was anything different about the
valve
> >core . I thought they just put the colored bands on them to
show to the
> >next tire mechanic that the tires infact had equal in them.
What would
> >be the difference in the valve core ??? Bob 93pt illinois
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[randydupree]

just the facts please! from what i can see equal don't clump,but,on another site
they claimed the balls would rust together,then someone else used BB's,and a lot
of truckers use golf balls. i have a full set of centramatics,and equal in the
front tires along with the centramatics. i guess that the only way to know is
try them all..randydupree93wb
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From: Mark Garber
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Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2005 10:15 AM
Subject: Re: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: Powder Balancing


Tom, don't mind him. I know you've heard the saying "a few marbles loose".
Well in randys case, all the golf balls feel out when the doc turned him up to
smack him on his arse.

Mark, 80FC35 just about to leave PA

randydupree wrote:
tom.the tire guy i use has a clear glass jar with a bag of equal in it along
with a cup of water.its been sitting on his counter for years.there is no
clumping in this jar..is there different types of equal? smooth or clumpy?
also,i understand that the beads will rust and stick together if your coach sits
for a while.is that true?damn,i guess the golf balls were the right thing to use
after all. any insight on this matter ? randydupree93wb
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[randydupree]

the truckers love golf..balls! they only roll around in the tire until you get
up to speed,so they say,so what damage could they do? randydupree93wb
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From: pattypape
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Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2005 11:20 AM
Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: Powder Balancing


Yep, Randy, (dozen balls here)(Tiger Woods Specials)

We have six gulf balls in each steer tire, Found them when we had a
leaky valve stem replaced. The previous owner had a tire guy, that
believed, this was the best way to balance. Our coach handles
fine, goes straight and does not vibrate. Some have said that golf
balls could damage the inside of the tire, but they do not clog the
valves. I am happy for now, but am confused about the best method
for balancing. We will purchase tires latter this year. (need to
make a decision)

Bill 88 FC Who never did like to golf, just really terrible

--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, randydupree
wrote:
> tom.the tire guy i use has a clear glass jar with a bag of equal
in it along with a cup of water.its been sitting on his counter for
years.there is no clumping in this jar..is there different types of
equal? smooth or clumpy? also,i understand that the beads will rust
and stick together if your coach sits for a while.is that true?
damn,i guess the golf balls were the right thing to use after all.
any insight on this matter ? randydupree93wb
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: jon lechich
> To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2005 12:34 AM
> Subject: Re: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: Powder Balancing
>
>
> Is this rebounding characteristic that noticeable when you do
not have this material in your tires? Does it make for a smoother
ride? Jon
> Jon Lechich
> Bremerton Washington
>
> Tom Warner wrote:
> The valve core has a filter in it so that the powder cannot get
into the
> valve stem and cause it to stick. Make sure if you do get equal
that you
> get these valve stems installed.
>
> Actually I would not install equal in a RV tire unless you are
going to put
> a lot of miles on the tires. If it sits for any length of time
and there is
> even the slightest amount of water vapor in the tire the equal
may clump.
> Truckers use it and do not have these problems because the tires
are
> constantly moving.
>
> On the other hand I have about 40# of Counteract balancing beads
a compound
> which I believe is better for RV use. I am not a dealer and do
not intend
> to sell it although I have the equipment and the product to both
inject the
> beads thru the vavle stem on a installed tire and the bags that
are thrown
> into the casing on new tires.
> http://www.wheelweights.com/cbb-brochure.pdf#search='counteract%
20balancing%20beads'
>
> Counteract balancing beads differ from equal in that the
composition of the
> beads and the fact that water moisture does not effect it. In
addition
> counteract balancing beads come in two different compositions
one for cars
> and one for trucks or RVs. The two different beads are
engineered for the
> different tire rebounding characteristics between cars and
trucks.
>
> I now have it in my steer tires and when I install the new tires
will
> install it in both the steers and the rear duals.
>
> tom
> 1982 FC35
> Vernon Center,NY
>
>
>
>
> bAt 03:05 AM 6/21/2005 +0000, you wrote:
> > I did not know that there was anything different about the
valve
> >core . I thought they just put the colored bands on them to
show to the
> >next tire mechanic that the tires infact had equal in them.
What would
> >be the difference in the valve core ??? Bob 93pt illinois
> >
> >
> >
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> >
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