Not Much Luck Buying Tires for our WL in San Antonio, TX :(

[Stephen Birtles]

from a firestone site


"While the Bridgestone R227, M729 and M840 are high quality tyres most
suitable for long haul operation and Firestone FS400 and FD600 are
quality tyres more suited to short haul operation, the Firestone
`Super' range is ideal for any operation and offers exceptional value
for money."



--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, Tom Warner wrote:
>
> If anyone wants Firestone FS400 bus tires in 12R22.5 I can have them
> shipped to texas for $395 each
>
> tom warner
> At 11:45 AM 5/18/2007, you wrote:
>
> >--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Jack and Liz Pearce"
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > Howdy.
> > > Jack made the rounds of the tire dealers in San Antonio about 3
weeks
> > > ago. Most shops wanted to push whatever was in their inventory.
Mostly
> > > Kuhmo tires. Jack doesn't know anything about that brand. The
price on
> > > Goodyear tires was over $4K. Jack went back to the only shop
that was
> > > even willing to try and order tires. Well, Sumitomo tires(what
we have
> > > and would like to buy, again) can't be had in the state of
Texas, now.
> > > Jack ordered a set of Firestone tires. Comments, ideas would be
> > > appreciated.
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > Liz, discouraged
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > > Jack and Liz Pearce
> > > Fulltiming in a 1993 Wanderlodge WB40
> > > Wintering In Hondo, TX - 2006
> > >
> >
> >
> >Howdy to Y'all.
> >
> >A big THANK YOU to everyone that replied to my message re: tires. All
> >the replies were appreciated and welcome.
> >
> >Regards,
> >Jack and Liz Pearce
> >Fulltiming in a 1993 Wanderlodge WB40
> >Wintering In Hondo, TX - 2006
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
>

[Larry]

Hi Michael,
Thanks for that update with the 315's... I just bought new 12's this April, so I
plan that I will be using these for the next seven years...


Sea Ya
Larry
NYC
84 35FCSB

----- Original Message ----
From: mbrund <mbrund@...>
To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, May 18, 2007 12:41:49 AM
Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: Not Much Luck Buying Tires for our WL in San
Antonio, TX













I can tell you based on my experence that 315's have a space issue

with the stock 8.5" rims and spacing that came on my coach. I just

replaced the Michelins with Firestones, the spacing between the

drive axles is just about an inch when the bus is aired up and

running 105 PSI in he drive tires. If I dump the tag the tires

touch. As it turns out, this did not change from the Michelins to

the Firestones, they both appear to have the same sidewall flex.



So be careful if you are looking to go from 12R's to 315's as they

are about 1" wider and cause spacing issues in the drive tires.



Michael Brundridge

1992 WB40

Georgetown, TX



--- In WanderlodgeForum@ yahoogroups. com, Larry

wrote:

>

> Hi Rob,

> When I was looking for tires and doing the research, I saw the

315's and was wondering how does that equate to the 12's,

difference?? ?

> TIA

>

> Sea Ya

> Larry

> NYC

> 84 35FCSB

>














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[Larry]

Michael
I Did not see, where I was looking when I was researching the BFG's, did it say
that the 315's would be OK on 8.5" rims, they specifically said 9" rims for the
315's, so I did not even give them a second thought... Which I find unusual as
BFG's are made by Michelin... I think the BFG's are just as good as the
Michelin's as they are made in the same plants... And at $132.00 less on each
tire, I think it is worthwhile...

Sea Ya
Larry
NYC
84 35FCSB

----- Original Message ----
From: mbrund <mbrund@...>
To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, May 18, 2007 12:46:22 AM
Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: Not Much Luck Buying Tires for our WL in San
Antonio, TX













Actually. both the Michelins and Firestones state you can use 315's
on

8.5" rims. The issue really is, does the rim have enough offset to

allow the correct tire spacing between duals.



And I can say that the ones that came on my coach do not as they are

too close for my comfort. But the coach ran on 315's for ten years

before I got it, with 15K a year avg and never had a tire failure.

The tires do not touch when axles are aired up, just really close.

They do touch when the tag is down.



The big concern is, since the spacing is so close, it is possible to

pickup a small stone and take out both tires.



Michael Brundridge

1992 WB40

Georgetown, TX



--- In WanderlodgeForum@ yahoogroups. com, Larry

wrote:

>

> Rob,

> When researching, (another thought came to mind) the specs for the

315 was you needed a 9" rim, that is why I did not look into them at

the time... Did you change over to 9" rims, or were they already on

the coach???

>

> Sea Ya

> Larry

> NYC

> 84 35FCSB

>














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[mbrund]

Larry,

Look at the following Michelin link and you will see 8.25" and 9"
are approved rims for the XZA1 and XZA2's:

http://www.michelintruck.com/michelintruck/report.do?
ReportType=NewTread&tread=XZA2+ENERGY

cheers,
Michael Brundridge
1992 WB40
Georgetown, TX

--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, Larry
wrote:
>
> Michael
> I Did not see, where I was looking when I was researching the
BFG's, did it say that the 315's would be OK on 8.5" rims, they
specifically said 9" rims for the 315's, so I did not even give them
a second thought... Which I find unusual as BFG's are made by
Michelin... I think the BFG's are just as good as the Michelin's as
they are made in the same plants... And at $132.00 less on each
tire, I think it is worthwhile...
>
> Sea Ya
> Larry
> NYC
> 84 35FCSB
>
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: mbrund <mbrund@...>
> To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Friday, May 18, 2007 12:46:22 AM
> Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: Not Much Luck Buying Tires for our
WL in San Antonio, TX
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Actually. both the Michelins and Firestones state you
can use 315's on
>
> 8.5" rims. The issue really is, does the rim have enough offset
to
>
> allow the correct tire spacing between duals.
>
>
>
> And I can say that the ones that came on my coach do not as they
are
>
> too close for my comfort. But the coach ran on 315's for ten
years
>
> before I got it, with 15K a year avg and never had a tire
failure.
>
> The tires do not touch when axles are aired up, just really
close.
>
> They do touch when the tag is down.
>
>
>
> The big concern is, since the spacing is so close, it is possible
to
>
> pickup a small stone and take out both tires.
>
>
>
> Michael Brundridge
>
> 1992 WB40
>
> Georgetown, TX
>
>
>
> --- In WanderlodgeForum@ yahoogroups. com, Larry

>
> wrote:
>
> >
>
> > Rob,
>
> > When researching, (another thought came to mind) the specs for
the
>
> 315 was you needed a 9" rim, that is why I did not look into them
at
>
> the time... Did you change over to 9" rims, or were they already
on
>
> the coach???
>
> >
>
> > Sea Ya
>
> > Larry
>
> > NYC
>
> > 84 35FCSB
>
> >
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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[mbrund]

Larry,

Look at the following Michelin link and you will see 8.25" and 9"
are approved rims for the XZA1 and XZA2's:

http://www.michelintruck.com/michelintruck/report.do?
ReportType=NewTread&tread=XZA2+ENERGY

cheers,
Michael Brundridge
1992 WB40
Georgetown, TX

--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, Larry
wrote:
>
> Michael
> I Did not see, where I was looking when I was researching the
BFG's, did it say that the 315's would be OK on 8.5" rims, they
specifically said 9" rims for the 315's, so I did not even give them
a second thought... Which I find unusual as BFG's are made by
Michelin... I think the BFG's are just as good as the Michelin's as
they are made in the same plants... And at $132.00 less on each
tire, I think it is worthwhile...
>
> Sea Ya
> Larry
> NYC
> 84 35FCSB
>
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: mbrund <mbrund@...>
> To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Friday, May 18, 2007 12:46:22 AM
> Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: Not Much Luck Buying Tires for our
WL in San Antonio, TX
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Actually. both the Michelins and Firestones state you
can use 315's on
>
> 8.5" rims. The issue really is, does the rim have enough offset
to
>
> allow the correct tire spacing between duals.
>
>
>
> And I can say that the ones that came on my coach do not as they
are
>
> too close for my comfort. But the coach ran on 315's for ten
years
>
> before I got it, with 15K a year avg and never had a tire
failure.
>
> The tires do not touch when axles are aired up, just really
close.
>
> They do touch when the tag is down.
>
>
>
> The big concern is, since the spacing is so close, it is possible
to
>
> pickup a small stone and take out both tires.
>
>
>
> Michael Brundridge
>
> 1992 WB40
>
> Georgetown, TX
>
>
>
> --- In WanderlodgeForum@ yahoogroups. com, Larry

>
> wrote:
>
> >
>
> > Rob,
>
> > When researching, (another thought came to mind) the specs for
the
>
> 315 was you needed a 9" rim, that is why I did not look into them
at
>
> the time... Did you change over to 9" rims, or were they already
on
>
> the coach???
>
> >
>
> > Sea Ya
>
> > Larry
>
> > NYC
>
> > 84 35FCSB
>
> >
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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[mbrund]

Not sure about the BF Goodrich 315's, the ones you where looking at
my have been load range L tires. The Firestone FS400 load range L
are also not supported on 8.25", only 9". But the load range J can
be mounted on 8.25" or 9", not sure why, just that both Michelin and
Firestone say that the load range J tires can. Go figure....

Michael Brundridge
1992 WB40
Georgetown, TX

--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, Larry
wrote:
>
> Michael
> I Did not see, where I was looking when I was researching the
BFG's, did it say that the 315's would be OK on 8.5" rims, they
specifically said 9" rims for the 315's, so I did not even give them
a second thought... Which I find unusual as BFG's are made by
Michelin... I think the BFG's are just as good as the Michelin's as
they are made in the same plants... And at $132.00 less on each
tire, I think it is worthwhile...
>
> Sea Ya
> Larry
> NYC
> 84 35FCSB
>
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: mbrund <mbrund@...>
> To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Friday, May 18, 2007 12:46:22 AM
> Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: Not Much Luck Buying Tires for our
WL in San Antonio, TX
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Actually. both the Michelins and Firestones state you
can use 315's on
>
> 8.5" rims. The issue really is, does the rim have enough offset
to
>
> allow the correct tire spacing between duals.
>
>
>
> And I can say that the ones that came on my coach do not as they
are
>
> too close for my comfort. But the coach ran on 315's for ten
years
>
> before I got it, with 15K a year avg and never had a tire
failure.
>
> The tires do not touch when axles are aired up, just really
close.
>
> They do touch when the tag is down.
>
>
>
> The big concern is, since the spacing is so close, it is possible
to
>
> pickup a small stone and take out both tires.
>
>
>
> Michael Brundridge
>
> 1992 WB40
>
> Georgetown, TX
>
>
>
> --- In WanderlodgeForum@ yahoogroups. com, Larry

>
> wrote:
>
> >
>
> > Rob,
>
> > When researching, (another thought came to mind) the specs for
the
>
> 315 was you needed a 9" rim, that is why I did not look into them
at
>
> the time... Did you change over to 9" rims, or were they already
on
>
> the coach???
>
> >
>
> > Sea Ya
>
> > Larry
>
> > NYC
>
> > 84 35FCSB
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[Larry]

Michael,
Yes, those were the ones I was looking at and then moved on, as they were only
available for the 9" wheels... Bought the 12R22.5 LR H...

Sea Ya
Larry
NYC
84 35FCSB

----- Original Message ----
From: mbrund <mbrund@...>
To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, May 19, 2007 10:40:25 PM
Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: Not Much Luck Buying Tires for our WL in San
Antonio, TX













Not sure about the BF Goodrich 315's, the ones you where looking at

my have been load range L tires. The Firestone FS400 load range L

are also not supported on 8.25", only 9". But the load range J can

be mounted on 8.25" or 9", not sure why, just that both Michelin and

Firestone say that the load range J tires can. Go figure....



Michael Brundridge

1992 WB40

Georgetown, TX



--- In WanderlodgeForum@ yahoogroups. com, Larry

wrote:

>

> Michael

> I Did not see, where I was looking when I was researching the

BFG's, did it say that the 315's would be OK on 8.5" rims, they

specifically said 9" rims for the 315's, so I did not even give them

a second thought... Which I find unusual as BFG's are made by

Michelin... I think the BFG's are just as good as the Michelin's as

they are made in the same plants... And at $132.00 less on each

tire, I think it is worthwhile.. .

>

> Sea Ya

> Larry

> NYC

> 84 35FCSB

>

> ----- Original Message ----

> From: mbrund <mbrund@...>

> To: WanderlodgeForum@ yahoogroups. com

> Sent: Friday, May 18, 2007 12:46:22 AM

> Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: Not Much Luck Buying Tires for our

WL in San Antonio, TX

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> Actually. both the Michelins and Firestones state you

can use 315's on

>

> 8.5" rims. The issue really is, does the rim have enough offset

to

>

> allow the correct tire spacing between duals.

>

>

>

> And I can say that the ones that came on my coach do not as they

are

>

> too close for my comfort. But the coach ran on 315's for ten

years

>

> before I got it, with 15K a year avg and never had a tire

failure.

>

> The tires do not touch when axles are aired up, just really

close.

>

> They do touch when the tag is down.

>

>

>

> The big concern is, since the spacing is so close, it is possible

to

>

> pickup a small stone and take out both tires.

>

>

>

> Michael Brundridge

>

> 1992 WB40

>

> Georgetown, TX

>

>

>

> --- In WanderlodgeForum@ yahoogroups. com, Larry



>

> wrote:

>

> >

>

> > Rob,

>

> > When researching, (another thought came to mind) the specs for

the

>

> 315 was you needed a 9" rim, that is why I did not look into them

at

>

> the time... Did you change over to 9" rims, or were they already

on

>

> the coach???

>

> >

>

> > Sea Ya

>

> > Larry

>

> > NYC

>

> > 84 35FCSB

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