Batteries not charging-both engine and coach

[Al]

I have been told that when you have a battery bank with one or more batteries
that are died and have to be replaced, it is better to replace the whole bank.
If not, your brand new fresh batteries will go down the the level of the
remaining batteries. Based on what you are saying that is not true. Please
help clear this up for me.

Al Johnson
'96 BMC B100
Mandeville, Louisiana

--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, Hugh Turner wrote:
>
> Sounds like you did the same thing I did. I have the Progressive Dynamics 80
amp charger, I found out this week that when there is no power ti the charger it
goes in to monitor mode.My batteries were doing the same as yours. Out of 4 have
two bad. The voltage dropped to 0 and suffocated the plates. Take yours to a
parts store that does free battery testing. just checking for voltage on
indicates what it is charged to not the actual   condition of the battery need a
load to do that.
>
> Hugh & Lexie Turner 1984 Wanderlodge PT 40 PAPA'S MAGIC BUS
> FMCA F393612 Bluebird Chapter
> Good Sam Life Member 057729600 Thomaston, Ga 30286 hturner12@... /
ford10076@...
>

[Ralph L. Fullenwider]

Ed:

Bottom line is, if you do not have 14.1 or so vdc AT the charger out put,
your chargers are not charging and will not charge any banks of batteries,
period. This can be arm chaired all over the place,, lol,, in fact it
already has been.

Safe travels,

Ralph and Charolette Fullenwider
84FC35 "Ruff Diamond"
Duncan, Oklahoma

At 05:01 PM 5/5/2009 +0000, you wrote:
>--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Chuck Wheeler" wrote:
> >Thanks for the response, Chuck. Actully i tried that a couple of weeks
> ago, but the chargers didnt keep up. Its the first time that the engine
> batteries went down too. I think that a clue to my problem, since it
> deals with both seperate banks of batteries. I have also tested the
> battery isolator. I have exausted my ideas.
> Thanks
> Ed Gardels 89SP
> Arlington Tx
> > Ed,
>

[Ed Gardels]

--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Ralph L. Fullenwider"
wrote:
>
I will check again with Charge Wizard set to Boost, which I have always had set
to normal 12.4 or there abouts. The response from
sombody else with same prob had two bad batteries. I have not suspected
batteries so far since they are sealed gel type, very expensive($800 for 4) just
2 or 3 yrs ago. I just got all 4 charged in my garage last night with my shop
chargers. They all charged to 12.3 + or - a few tenths. By the way they are
Optima blue top batteries from Cosco's. I will take them to NAPA today and have
them tested, my back already hurt's.
Ernie and Chuck, thanks for the offers, I'll let you know....
Ed Gardels 89SP
Arlington Tx
> Ed:
>
> Bottom line is, if you do not have 14.1 or so vdc AT the charger out put,
> your chargers are not charging and will not charge any banks of batteries,
> period. This can be arm chaired all over the place,, lol,, in fact it
> already has been.
>
> Safe travels,
>
> Ralph and Charolette Fullenwider
> 84FC35 "Ruff Diamond"
> Duncan, Oklahoma
>
> At 05:01 PM 5/5/2009 +0000, you wrote:
> >--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Chuck Wheeler" wrote:
> > >Thanks for the response, Chuck. Actully i tried that a couple of weeks
> > ago, but the chargers didnt keep up. Its the first time that the engine
> > batteries went down too. I think that a clue to my problem, since it
> > deals with both seperate banks of batteries. I have also tested the
> > battery isolator. I have exausted my ideas.
> > Thanks
> > Ed Gardels 89SP
> > Arlington Tx
> > > Ed,
> >
>

[GARY MINKER]

Everyone focuses on voltage voltage voltage. Please use a clamp on Dc ammeter to see if there is a shorted string holding the chargers down at max current or is the "voltage" output of the charger actually low. You need to measure the DC clamped on current in numerous places to determine the charge rates of the strings. Gary --- On Thu, 5/7/09, Ed Gardels wrote: From: Ed Gardels Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: Batteries not charging-both engine and coach To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com Date: Thursday, May 7, 2009, 2:28 PM --- In WanderlodgeForum@ yahoogroups. com, "Ralph L. Fullenwider" wrote: > I will check again with Charge Wizard set to Boost, which I have always had set to normal 12.4 or there abouts. The response from sombody else with same prob had two bad batteries. I have not suspected batteries so far since they are sealed gel type, very expensive($800 for 4) just 2 or 3 yrs ago. I just got all 4 charged in my garage last night with my shop chargers. They all charged to 12.3 + or - a few tenths. By the way they are Optima blue top batteries from Cosco's. I will take them to NAPA today and have them tested, my back already hurt's. Ernie and Chuck, thanks for the offers, I'll let you know.... Ed Gardels 89SP Arlington Tx > Ed: > > Bottom line is, if you do not have 14.1 or so vdc AT the charger out put, > your chargers are not charging and will not charge any banks of batteries, > period. This can be arm chaired all over the place,, lol,, in fact it > already has been. > > Safe travels, > > Ralph and Charolette Fullenwider > 84FC35 "Ruff Diamond" > Duncan, Oklahoma > > At 05:01 PM 5/5/2009 +0000, you wrote: > >--- In WanderlodgeForum@ yahoogroups. com, "Chuck Wheeler" wrote: > > >Thanks for the response, Chuck. Actully i tried that a couple of weeks > > ago, but the chargers didnt keep up. Its the first time that the engine > > batteries went down too. I think that a clue to my problem, since it > > deals with both seperate banks of batteries. I have also tested the > > battery isolator. I have exausted my ideas. > > Thanks > > Ed Gardels 89SP > > Arlington Tx > > > Ed, > > >

[Hugh Turner]

--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Al" wrote:
>
> I have been told that when you have a battery bank with one or more batteries
that are died and have to be replaced, it is better to replace the whole bank.
If not, your brand new fresh batteries will go down the the level of the
remaining batteries. Based on what you are saying that is not true. Please
help clear this up for me.
>
> Al Johnson
> '96 BMC B100
> Mandeville, Louisiana
>
> Al

Let me clear up what I meant all 4 of my batteries were bought at the same time,
same brand of the 4 2 are now nothing but cores. I may have a bad GFI plug for
the charger.

Hugh

[Al Scudder]

That was told to me also. I had one go down on the house and was advised to replace all. I took the bad battery out of the equation and bridge to the nest battery and all was well. It was at the end of the season for me and I didn't want to replace a battery that I could do with out. I went the next season the same way until there was one battery wasleft and I replace all the next season. We do not do any bondocking so I could do with out. all the batteries. After all I'm a spoiled SOB and want my basic three comforts points such as air, air, and air.

Scooter 2000LX Ocqueoc, MI

---

To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
From: ford10076@...
Date: Mon, 11 May 2009 19:13:56 +0000
Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Re:Batteries not charging-both engine and coach

--- In "WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com", "Al" wrote:
>
> I have been told that when you have a battery bank with one or more batteries that are died and have to be replaced, it is better to replace the whole bank. If not, your brand new fresh batteries will go down the the level of the remaining batteries. Based on what you are saying that is not true. Please help clear this up for me.
>
> Al Johnson
> '96 BMC B100
> Mandeville, Louisiana
>
> Al

Let me clear up what I meant all 4 of my batteries were bought at the same time, same brand of the 4 2 are now nothing but cores. I may have a bad GFI plug for the charger.

Hugh