HELP! stuck in Wisc - need wiring diagram for 88-89 DDEC I

[KP Marsh]

HELP!! we are stuck in Eau Claire Wisc. We were on our way over to Antigo Wisc
yesterday (Friday) to have the new slide outs installed in ToWanda's bays when
our "Check Engine" light came on and she cut to half power. All gauges were
reading just fine when the light came on. She restarted for us and we were able
to get her over to River States Truck & Trailer. She ran fine, all gauges
reading normal, no power problems, just the Check Engine Light being on was the
only indication of a "problem."

The diagnostic read out was telling River States that the problem was the oil
temperature sensor. They replaced the sensor but the Check Engine light remains
on. It appears to be a problem with wiring going to the sensor. River States
is trying to track down a wiring diagram from Detroit for us.

Does anyone out there have a wiring diagram for 88-89 DDEC I???? If so, please
fax to (715) 874-4701 to the attention of Randy.

Thanx in advance for any and all help,
Ken & Patti Marsh
ToWanda, 89 WB40, DDEC I



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[KP Marsh]

HELP!! we are stuck in Eau Claire Wisc. We were on our way over to Antigo Wisc
yesterday (Friday) to have the new slide outs installed in ToWanda's bays when
our "Check Engine" light came on and she cut to half power. All gauges were
reading just fine when the light came on. She restarted for us and we were able
to get her over to River States Truck & Trailer. She ran fine, all gauges
reading normal, no power problems, just the Check Engine Light being on was the
only indication of a "problem."

The diagnostic read out was telling River States that the problem was the oil
temperature sensor. They replaced the sensor but the Check Engine light remains
on. It appears to be a problem with wiring going to the sensor. River States
is trying to track down a wiring diagram from Detroit for us.

Does anyone out there have a wiring diagram for 88-89 DDEC I???? If so, please
fax to (715) 874-4701 to the attention of Randy.

Thanx in advance for any and all help,
Ken & Patti Marsh
ToWanda, 89 WB40, DDEC I



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[Mike Hohnstein]

What you need to do is get that rig to a serious Detroit service facility and
get it updated, I wouldn't be happy depending on DD 1. I'm sure you're getting
the idea.
MH
----- Original Message -----
From: KP Marsh
To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, September 23, 2006 10:13 AM
Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] HELP! stuck in Wisc - need wiring diagram for
88-89 DDEC I


HELP!! we are stuck in Eau Claire Wisc. We were on our way over to Antigo Wisc
yesterday (Friday) to have the new slide outs installed in ToWanda's bays when
our "Check Engine" light came on and she cut to half power. All gauges were
reading just fine when the light came on. She restarted for us and we were able
to get her over to River States Truck & Trailer. She ran fine, all gauges
reading normal, no power problems, just the Check Engine Light being on was the
only indication of a "problem."

The diagnostic read out was telling River States that the problem was the oil
temperature sensor. They replaced the sensor but the Check Engine light remains
on. It appears to be a problem with wiring going to the sensor. River States is
trying to track down a wiring diagram from Detroit for us.

Does anyone out there have a wiring diagram for 88-89 DDEC I???? If so, please
fax to (715) 874-4701 to the attention of Randy.

Thanx in advance for any and all help,
Ken & Patti Marsh
ToWanda, 89 WB40, DDEC I

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[one_dusty_hoot]

Ken & Patti, hate it that you are having problems.

First, I will qualify my knowledge of the 8v92 which
is squat, if a BB, it would rattle in tin bucket.

The warning system can be problematic indicating a
fault that is in fact within it's own circuitry. It,
in your case the DDEC I, be know to shut the engine
down when it senses damage could be done running.

A good friend of mine has an 88 WBPT40 DDEC I and was
worried with similar symptoms many times. His vital
engine signs were good, oil pressure, engine temps,etc,.
With a codes tester a problem would be shown but not
the actual problem. (a generic codes tester)

The Detroit people had stored the DDEC I test equipment
*upstairs* as this was a system that was superceded by
the DDEC II and not used much.

As a side note will ad this. I have a car with a similar
problem. When I take it to the shop, it's working, never
fails to do this. Mechanics tell me there are something
like 57 sensors that could cause the warning light, and,
unless I wanted them to systematically go through replacing
all the sensors, I would have to live with it till a complete
failure occurred. I found the fix, a small piece of electrical
tape over the light on the dash. Still goes on an off today.

Bob Janes, Greenville, SC



The fix required *dragging* that equipment down to do
an evaluation of the problem. When they did, the cause
was readily found, a loose ground. Tighten a screw with
no problem since.



--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, KP Marsh
wrote:
>
> HELP!! we are stuck in Eau Claire Wisc. We were on our way over
to Antigo Wisc yesterday (Friday) to have the new slide outs
installed in ToWanda's bays when our "Check Engine" light came on and
she cut to half power. All gauges were reading just fine when the
light came on. She restarted for us and we were able to get her over
to River States Truck & Trailer. She ran fine, all gauges reading
normal, no power problems, just the Check Engine Light being on was
the only indication of a "problem."
>
> The diagnostic read out was telling River States that the problem
was the oil temperature sensor. They replaced the sensor but the
Check Engine light remains on. It appears to be a problem with
wiring going to the sensor. River States is trying to track down a
wiring diagram from Detroit for us.
>
> Does anyone out there have a wiring diagram for 88-89 DDEC I????
If so, please fax to (715) 874-4701 to the attention of Randy.
>
> Thanx in advance for any and all help,
> Ken & Patti Marsh
> ToWanda, 89 WB40, DDEC I
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

[Rob Robinson]

If you still need the schematic by Monday I would call Bennie Collier at BB

On 23/09/06, one_dusty_hoot wrote:
>
> Ken & Patti, hate it that you are having problems.
>
> First, I will qualify my knowledge of the 8v92 which
> is squat, if a BB, it would rattle in tin bucket.
>
> The warning system can be problematic indicating a
> fault that is in fact within it's own circuitry. It,
> in your case the DDEC I, be know to shut the engine
> down when it senses damage could be done running.
>
> A good friend of mine has an 88 WBPT40 DDEC I and was
> worried with similar symptoms many times. His vital
> engine signs were good, oil pressure, engine temps,etc,.
> With a codes tester a problem would be shown but not
> the actual problem. (a generic codes tester)
>
> The Detroit people had stored the DDEC I test equipment
> *upstairs* as this was a system that was superceded by
> the DDEC II and not used much.
>
> As a side note will ad this. I have a car with a similar
> problem. When I take it to the shop, it's working, never
> fails to do this. Mechanics tell me there are something
> like 57 sensors that could cause the warning light, and,
> unless I wanted them to systematically go through replacing
> all the sensors, I would have to live with it till a complete
> failure occurred. I found the fix, a small piece of electrical
> tape over the light on the dash. Still goes on an off today.
>
> Bob Janes, Greenville, SC
>
> The fix required *dragging* that equipment down to do
> an evaluation of the problem. When they did, the cause
> was readily found, a loose ground. Tighten a screw with
> no problem since.
>
> --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com,
> KP Marsh
> wrote:
> >
> > HELP!! we are stuck in Eau Claire Wisc. We were on our way over
> to Antigo Wisc yesterday (Friday) to have the new slide outs
> installed in ToWanda's bays when our "Check Engine" light came on and
> she cut to half power. All gauges were reading just fine when the
> light came on. She restarted for us and we were able to get her over
> to River States Truck & Trailer. She ran fine, all gauges reading
> normal, no power problems, just the Check Engine Light being on was
> the only indication of a "problem."
> >
> > The diagnostic read out was telling River States that the problem
> was the oil temperature sensor. They replaced the sensor but the
> Check Engine light remains on. It appears to be a problem with
> wiring going to the sensor. River States is trying to track down a
> wiring diagram from Detroit for us.
> >
> > Does anyone out there have a wiring diagram for 88-89 DDEC I????
> If so, please fax to (715) 874-4701 to the attention of Randy.
> >
> > Thanx in advance for any and all help,
> > Ken & Patti Marsh
> > ToWanda, 89 WB40, DDEC I
> >
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
>
>
>



--
Rob, Sue & Merlin Robinson
94 WLWB


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[Gregory OConnor]

The code may not be the problem! that could be an old code. Humor me
and take the sight glass out of the puke tank, windex it, then
reinstall and over fill the puke tank. ( puke tank= the radiator
overflow just above the engine bay. I will fax this tip to the
number in your post also. Wisconsin, what a place to get stuck, good
luck.
GregoryO'Connor
94ptRomolandCa

--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, KP Marsh
wrote:
>
> HELP!! we are stuck in Eau Claire Wisc. We were on our way over
to Antigo Wisc yesterday (Friday) to have the new slide outs
installed in ToWanda's bays when our "Check Engine" light came on and
she cut to half power. All gauges were reading just fine when the
light came on. She restarted for us and we were able to get her over
to River States Truck & Trailer. She ran fine, all gauges reading
normal, no power problems, just the Check Engine Light being on was
the only indication of a "problem."
>
> The diagnostic read out was telling River States that the problem
was the oil temperature sensor. They replaced the sensor but the
Check Engine light remains on. It appears to be a problem with
wiring going to the sensor. River States is trying to track down a
wiring diagram from Detroit for us.
>
> Does anyone out there have a wiring diagram for 88-89 DDEC I????
If so, please fax to (715) 874-4701 to the attention of Randy.
>
> Thanx in advance for any and all help,
> Ken & Patti Marsh
> ToWanda, 89 WB40, DDEC I
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

[car_go_van]

Send me an email and I will send you a PDF of the DDEC I.
Allen
allen.powell@...

- -- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, KP Marsh
wrote:
>
> HELP!! we are stuck in Eau Claire Wisc. We were on our way over
to Antigo Wisc yesterday (Friday) to have the new slide outs
installed in ToWanda's bays when our "Check Engine" light came on
and she cut to half power. All gauges were reading just fine when
the light came on. She restarted for us and we were able to get her
over to River States Truck & Trailer. She ran fine, all gauges
reading normal, no power problems, just the Check Engine Light being
on was the only indication of a "problem."
>
> The diagnostic read out was telling River States that the problem
was the oil temperature sensor. They replaced the sensor but the
Check Engine light remains on. It appears to be a problem with
wiring going to the sensor. River States is trying to track down a
wiring diagram from Detroit for us.
>
> Does anyone out there have a wiring diagram for 88-89 DDEC I????
If so, please fax to (715) 874-4701 to the attention of Randy.
>
> Thanx in advance for any and all help,
> Ken & Patti Marsh
> ToWanda, 89 WB40, DDEC I
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

[jqrjr]

Ken,

I hope that you are again on the road. I have a 88WBWLXXV DDEC1 I
have had many codes with the engine. The unit "remembers" old codes
even if problem has been resolved. You need to kill the power in the
coach with the kill switch in the back of the Coach. this kill the
power to the "memory" for the error codes in the DDEC1. If in truth
you have solved the problem then you will get only the 2 5 code
meaning everthig is OK. I was having a simmilar problem I founfd that
it was the cooling sensor on the Drivers side in the engine bay by
the coolant res. Loose connection! reseated, reset DDEC1 25 code on
down the road.

Someone suggested that you update to DDEC4 I have gotten this
suggestion also..MY DD dealer has little idea of what to do with a
DDEC1, they don't have a reader, they seem to have gotten a little
better after a call to DD main office, but the guy that works on it
was born in 1984 the engine 1s 1986.

Jim Riordan
WBWLXXV
Stuart, Fl.

--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, KP Marsh
wrote:
>
> HELP!! we are stuck in Eau Claire Wisc. We were on our way over
to Antigo Wisc yesterday (Friday) to have the new slide outs
installed in ToWanda's bays when our "Check Engine" light came on and
she cut to half power. All gauges were reading just fine when the
light came on. She restarted for us and we were able to get her over
to River States Truck & Trailer. She ran fine, all gauges reading
normal, no power problems, just the Check Engine Light being on was
the only indication of a "problem."
>
> The diagnostic read out was telling River States that the problem
was the oil temperature sensor. They replaced the sensor but the
Check Engine light remains on. It appears to be a problem with
wiring going to the sensor. River States is trying to track down a
wiring diagram from Detroit for us.
>
> Does anyone out there have a wiring diagram for 88-89 DDEC I????
If so, please fax to (715) 874-4701 to the attention of Randy.
>
> Thanx in advance for any and all help,
> Ken & Patti Marsh
> ToWanda, 89 WB40, DDEC I
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

[jqrjr]

Ken,

Have Randy contact DD in Ft Pierce they might have it

--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, KP Marsh
wrote:
>
> HELP!! we are stuck in Eau Claire Wisc. We were on our way over
to Antigo Wisc yesterday (Friday) to have the new slide outs
installed in ToWanda's bays when our "Check Engine" light came on and
she cut to half power. All gauges were reading just fine when the
light came on. She restarted for us and we were able to get her over
to River States Truck & Trailer. She ran fine, all gauges reading
normal, no power problems, just the Check Engine Light being on was
the only indication of a "problem."
>
> The diagnostic read out was telling River States that the problem
was the oil temperature sensor. They replaced the sensor but the
Check Engine light remains on. It appears to be a problem with
wiring going to the sensor. River States is trying to track down a
wiring diagram from Detroit for us.
>
> Does anyone out there have a wiring diagram for 88-89 DDEC I????
If so, please fax to (715) 874-4701 to the attention of Randy.
>
> Thanx in advance for any and all help,
> Ken & Patti Marsh
> ToWanda, 89 WB40, DDEC I
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>