Perkins cold start

[Pete Masterson]

What do you do if the rag is pulled into the intake?

Pete Masterson
aeonix1@...
'95 Blue Bird Wanderlodge WBDA 42'
El Sobrante, CA




On Nov 29, 2006, at 4:42 PM, Gregory OConnor wrote:

> When I use ether to make a cold start, I spray it on a rag and put the
> rag at the intake. A wet spray that gets to the turbo dries out the
> seals in the turbo. I have use gasoline on a rag also. Glow plugs
> fail
> often and when they are in series the lines between also lose ability.
> Its easy to test the plugs with a Raytec gun. In a pinch and with a
> low
> battery I have disconnected all but one glow plug.
> GregoryO'Connor
> 94ptRomoland
>



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[Tom Warner]

Leroy if you have a retarder system dont consider turning it off
absolutely turn it off if you are travelling on roads that are
slippery and/or may have either ice or snow on them. There is a
caution in every manual to turn them off. Same with the cruise
control. Guess it would be scary to all of a sudden to have either of
them to engage when you least expect it.

Tom warner
vernon Center,ny
1985 PT 40

At 05:24 PM 11/29/2006, you wrote:
>Ernie:
>One thought. If you have a retarder consider not using it in the snow.
>
>Leroy Eckert
>1990 WB-40 "Smoke N Mirrors"
>Niceville, FL
>
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> ----- Original Message -----
> From: erniecarpet@...
> To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2006 4:00 PM
> Subject: Re: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: Perkins cold start
>
>
> I had tried to glow the plugs for a short time. I didn't realize
> that these
> plugs take longer. My thanks to Tom Warner for giving my the time
> to glow these
> plugs and to tie the battery banks together. Right now, both engines are
> doing quite nicely. Time to get some #1 fuel for my impending
> trip Fri afternoon
> south.
> The Perkins caught the 4 try with the glow plugs. The outside
> temps overnite
> were 5 above and the temp this afternoon is 16. Fortuately- the
> bus faces the
> sun and this will be my first attempt at driving on hardpacked
> snow. Another
> fortunate thing- the snow is only in town- not out on the highway- whew!!!
> thanks to all for your sugestions- Texas here we come!!
>
> Ernie Ekberg
> 83 PT40
> Livingston, Montana--not for long!!
>
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[Gardner Yeaw]

I think that if you hire a tow truck and haul it South you won't
have any problems starting it up. Next year, leave sooner!
(haha)
Gardner
78FC33

--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, Pete Masterson
wrote:
>
> What do you do if the rag is pulled into the intake?
>
> Pete Masterson
> aeonix1@...
> '95 Blue Bird Wanderlodge WBDA 42'
> El Sobrante, CA
>
>
>
>
> On Nov 29, 2006, at 4:42 PM, Gregory OConnor wrote:
>
> > When I use ether to make a cold start, I spray it on a rag and
put the
> > rag at the intake. A wet spray that gets to the turbo dries out
the
> > seals in the turbo. I have use gasoline on a rag also. Glow
plugs
> > fail
> > often and when they are in series the lines between also lose
ability.
> > Its easy to test the plugs with a Raytec gun. In a pinch and
with a
> > low
> > battery I have disconnected all but one glow plug.
> > GregoryO'Connor
> > 94ptRomoland
> >
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

[Terry Neal]

Glad you got the Perkins going Ernie. You're going to leave me just
when winter is getting started for real? Can I go too? I speak Texas
pretty good.

Terry Neal
Bozeman, MT
82PT40
74FC34



erniecarpet@... wrote:

> I had tried to glow the plugs for a short time. I didn't realize that
> these
> plugs take longer. My thanks to Tom Warner for giving my the time to
> glow these
> plugs and to tie the battery banks together. Right now, both engines are
> doing quite nicely. Time to get some #1 fuel for my impending trip Fri
> afternoon
> south.
> The Perkins caught the 4 try with the glow plugs. The outside temps
> overnite
> were 5 above and the temp this afternoon is 16. Fortuately- the bus
> faces the
> sun and this will be my first attempt at driving on hardpacked snow.
> Another
> fortunate thing- the snow is only in town- not out on the highway- whew!!!
> thanks to all for your sugestions- Texas here we come!!
>
> Ernie Ekberg
> 83 PT40
> Livingston, Montana--not for long!!
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>



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[Leroy Eckert]

Tom:
I agree. There is a warning placard on my pilots window stating turn it off. I
follow that warning, always. My intent was to provide a warning and let the
operator decide.

Thanks,

Leroy Eckert
1990 WB-40 "Smoke N Mirrors"
Niceville, FL


----- Original Message -----
From: Tom Warner
To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2006 7:37 PM
Subject: Re: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: Perkins cold start


Leroy if you have a retarder system dont consider turning it off
absolutely turn it off if you are travelling on roads that are
slippery and/or may have either ice or snow on them. There is a
caution in every manual to turn them off. Same with the cruise
control. Guess it would be scary to all of a sudden to have either of
them to engage when you least expect it.

Tom warner
vernon Center,ny
1985 PT 40

At 05:24 PM 11/29/2006, you wrote:
>Ernie:
>One thought. If you have a retarder consider not using it in the snow.
>
>Leroy Eckert
>1990 WB-40 "Smoke N Mirrors"
>Niceville, FL
>
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: erniecarpet@...
> To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2006 4:00 PM
> Subject: Re: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: Perkins cold start
>
>
> I had tried to glow the plugs for a short time. I didn't realize
> that these
> plugs take longer. My thanks to Tom Warner for giving my the time
> to glow these
> plugs and to tie the battery banks together. Right now, both engines are
> doing quite nicely. Time to get some #1 fuel for my impending
> trip Fri afternoon
> south.
> The Perkins caught the 4 try with the glow plugs. The outside
> temps overnite
> were 5 above and the temp this afternoon is 16. Fortuately- the
> bus faces the
> sun and this will be my first attempt at driving on hardpacked
> snow. Another
> fortunate thing- the snow is only in town- not out on the highway- whew!!!
> thanks to all for your sugestions- Texas here we come!!
>
> Ernie Ekberg
> 83 PT40
> Livingston, Montana--not for long!!
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
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>
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[Gregory OConnor]

Pete, we are talking about small 3 4 cyl diesels of which I have more
than 15 working units. I crank while holding the rag only long
enough to start. I don't have the guts to use start fluid on a large
diesel. My 6cyl aircompressor (IR John Deere Diesel) requires
ether to start when its cold. I adopted a fool proof plan to protect
the unit. "We dont start it when its cold". When somthing gets sucked
in the intake it often hits a screen prior to the airfilter.
GregoryO'Connor
94ptRomolandCa

--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, Pete Masterson
wrote:
>
> What do you do if the rag is pulled into the intake?
>
> Pete Masterson
> aeonix1@...
> '95 Blue Bird Wanderlodge WBDA 42'
> El Sobrante, CA
>
>
>
>
> On Nov 29, 2006, at 4:42 PM, Gregory OConnor wrote:
>
> > When I use ether to make a cold start, I spray it on a rag and
put the
> > rag at the intake. A wet spray that gets to the turbo dries out
the
> > seals in the turbo. I have use gasoline on a rag also. Glow
plugs
> > fail
> > often and when they are in series the lines between also lose
ability.
> > Its easy to test the plugs with a Raytec gun. In a pinch and with
a
> > low
> > battery I have disconnected all but one glow plug.
> > GregoryO'Connor
> > 94ptRomoland
> >
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

[Tom McCarthy]

Ernie,

I hope the boxed wine is inside and well protected?

Tommy 2 Shoes

--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Ernest Ekberg"
wrote:
>
> The temps are supposed to be - 0 here. i have tried to start my
Perkins
> by depressing the stop button- to activate the glow plugs. this
seems
> to make the voltage drop to below 10 and she will crank, smoke, but
not
> catch and start- any clues? Ernie- 83PT40 in dismal cold Montana-
> getting ready to head home
>

[Tom Warner]

Greg use a spray can of WD40 it works fine for starting and you dont
have to cringe thinking the whole thing may blow up. Actually ether
is safe to if you follow the directions to the letter. Never spray
it unless the engine is turning over and then only in short bursts.

tom warner
vernon center,ny
1985 PT 40


At 02:08 AM 11/30/2006, you wrote:
>Pete, we are talking about small 3 4 cyl diesels of which I have more
>than 15 working units. I crank while holding the rag only long
>enough to start. I don't have the guts to use start fluid on a large
>diesel. My 6cyl aircompressor (IR John Deere Diesel) requires
>ether to start when its cold. I adopted a fool proof plan to protect
>the unit. "We dont start it when its cold". When somthing gets sucked
>in the intake it often hits a screen prior to the airfilter.
>GregoryO'Connor
>94ptRomolandCa
>
> --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, Pete Masterson
> wrote:
> >
> > What do you do if the rag is pulled into the intake?
> >
> > Pete Masterson
> > aeonix1@...
> > '95 Blue Bird Wanderlodge WBDA 42'
> > El Sobrante, CA
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Nov 29, 2006, at 4:42 PM, Gregory OConnor wrote:
> >
> > > When I use ether to make a cold start, I spray it on a rag and
>put the
> > > rag at the intake. A wet spray that gets to the turbo dries out
>the
> > > seals in the turbo. I have use gasoline on a rag also. Glow
>plugs
> > > fail
> > > often and when they are in series the lines between also lose
>ability.
> > > Its easy to test the plugs with a Raytec gun. In a pinch and with
>a
> > > low
> > > battery I have disconnected all but one glow plug.
> > > GregoryO'Connor
> > > 94ptRomoland
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
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[The Squires]

Bob,

Reminds me of mid-50s in North-Eastern Ark. It had been below zero for over
a week. We lived in the country and heated the house with Butane (not
Propane), above ground tank in the backyard. Butane would not gas with the
low temps so my father built an open fire along side the tank. Worked we
got gas in the house. Probably did not meet OSHA standards, but we were
cold!!!..

Jimmy

-----Original Message-----
From: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of one_dusty_hoot
Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2006 11:23 AM
To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: Perkins cold start


Mike,
Charcoal must be the modern way. First time I saw something
like this was a fellow stoking a hot fire of sticks under
a Cat dozer, though he had gone over the edge.

Few years ago I picked up a magnetic heater, sticks right
to the bottom of an oil pan, plug it into 120 extension
cord, worked great, I think I drove off and lost it.

I bought it in Washington State, was in my luggage to fly to
South Carolina. I just knew when the X-ray machine hit that
with plug, wiring, steel, the bomb squad would be called,
I don't believe my luggage was ever opened. Assurance???
Bob J, Greenville, SC


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