Constant Door Chime
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04-03-2007, 04:41
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Constant Door Chime
Are you sure it's a momentary, SPST push button switch? What happens when
you disconnect both wires from the switch? Does the chime stop? Touch the wires together, does the chime turn on again? If so, your switch is the wrong type. Use a multimeter on the switch contacts, and see what the switch does. The switch could be grounded also, with one of the poles being momentary "on" and the other always "on" always and off when pushed. Kevin Mc Yorba Linda, CA 86 38 PT ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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04-03-2007, 08:31
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I tried to replace the door chime button on my 84FC35. But when I put
the wires on the button it starts ringing and won't stop? I tried two different brand new push buttons. Any suggestions? Keith 84FC |
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04-03-2007, 09:02
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Yes it stops when disconnected from the switch. I don't know what an
SPST switch is but yes it only rings once when the wires are touched together. I figured I bought a bad switch but same thing happened with the second new switch. I bought the switches at Home Depot. So you think if I reverse the wires it might work? Unfortunately I popped the fuse while I was fooling around with it. Now I gotta go look for the fuse... Keith 84FC35 --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, krminyl@... wrote: > > Are you sure it's a momentary, SPST push button switch? What happens when > you disconnect both wires from the switch? Does the chime stop? Touch the > wires together, does the chime turn on again? If so, your switch is the wrong > type. Use a multimeter on the switch contacts, and see what the switch does. > The switch could be grounded also, with one of the poles being momentary > "on" and the other always "on" always and off when pushed. > > Kevin Mc > Yorba Linda, CA > 86 38 PT > > > > ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > |
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04-03-2007, 09:34
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Constant Door Chime
Okay, I got it. SPST = Single Pole Single Throw. A SPST momentary
switch returns to its normally open (off) position when you release the button. A standard doorbell switch. It doesn't solve the problem (yet) but I know what it is now... Thanks, Keith 84FC35 --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, krminyl@... wrote: > > Are you sure it's a momentary, SPST push button switch? What happens when > you disconnect both wires from the switch? Does the chime stop? Touch the > wires together, does the chime turn on again? If so, your switch is the wrong > type. Use a multimeter on the switch contacts, and see what the switch does. > The switch could be grounded also, with one of the poles being momentary > "on" and the other always "on" always and off when pushed. > > Kevin Mc > Yorba Linda, CA > 86 38 PT > > > > ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > |
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04-03-2007, 10:06
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Constant Door Chime
Keith, Kevin is thinking you are using the wrong switch. You need a
momentary switch like the old starter buttons; the moment you push- it makes contact, the moment you release- it loses contact. If the doorbell button you are using now clicks when pushed, it may unclick when pushed the second time. That would be a POPO switch I am looking for a door bell chime that rings like the NewMoon trailer in the LongLong Trailer movie. GregoryO'Connor 94PTRomolandCa --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Keith Strehle" > > Okay, I got it. SPST = Single Pole Single Throw. A SPST momentary > switch returns to its normally open (off) position when you release > the button. A standard doorbell switch. It doesn't solve the problem > (yet) but I know what it is now... > > Thanks, Keith > 84FC35 > > > > > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, krminyl@ wrote: > > > > Are you sure it's a momentary, SPST push button switch? What > happens when > > you disconnect both wires from the switch? Does the chime stop? > Touch the > > wires together, does the chime turn on again? If so, your switch > is the wrong > > type. Use a multimeter on the switch contacts, and see what the > switch does. > > The switch could be grounded also, with one of the poles being > momentary > > "on" and the other always "on" always and off when pushed. > > > > Kevin Mc > > Yorba Linda, CA > > 86 38 PT > > > > > > > > ************************************** See what's free at > http://www.aol.com. > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > |
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04-03-2007, 10:21
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It's a standard door bell switch from Home Depot. It releases when
you stop pushing. But even if you pushed it down and held it there the bell should stop ringing until you push it again. Otherwise every kid in the hood would be taping your dooebell button down! It's a basic doorbell switch just like the one in my house. There must be something else to this story. ????????? Keith 84FC35 --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Gregory OConnor" > > Keith, Kevin is thinking you are using the wrong switch. You need a > momentary switch like the old starter buttons; the moment you push- > it makes contact, the moment you release- it loses contact. If the > doorbell button you are using now clicks when pushed, it may unclick > when pushed the second time. That would be a POPO switch > > > I am looking for a door bell chime that rings like the NewMoon > trailer in the LongLong Trailer movie. > GregoryO'Connor > 94PTRomolandCa > > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Keith Strehle" > > > > > Okay, I got it. SPST = Single Pole Single Throw. A SPST momentary > > switch returns to its normally open (off) position when you release > > the button. A standard doorbell switch. It doesn't solve the > problem > > (yet) but I know what it is now... > > > > Thanks, Keith > > 84FC35 > > > > > > > > > > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, krminyl@ wrote: > > > > > > Are you sure it's a momentary, SPST push button switch? What > > happens when > > > you disconnect both wires from the switch? Does the chime > stop? > > Touch the > > > wires together, does the chime turn on again? If so, your > switch > > is the wrong > > > type. Use a multimeter on the switch contacts, and see what the > > switch does. > > > The switch could be grounded also, with one of the poles being > > momentary > > > "on" and the other always "on" always and off when pushed. > > > > > > Kevin Mc > > > Yorba Linda, CA > > > 86 38 PT > > > > > > > > > > > > ************************************** See what's free at > > http://www.aol.com. > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > |
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04-03-2007, 11:42
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Keith:
According to my schematic, it is #2 fuse in the Left Rear Panel. Bill 84 FC 35 SB "$quanderlodge" Terrace, B.C. Canada ----- Original Message ---- From: Keith Strehle To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, April 3, 2007 2:02:28 PM Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: Constant Door Chime Yes it stops when disconnected from the switch. I don't know what an SPST switch is but yes it only rings once when the wires are touched together. I figured I bought a bad switch but same thing happened with the second new switch. I bought the switches at Home Depot. So you think if I reverse the wires it might work? Unfortunately I popped the fuse while I was fooling around with it. Now I gotta go look for the fuse... Keith 84FC35 --- In WanderlodgeForum@ yahoogroups. com, krminyl@... wrote: > > Are you sure it's a momentary, SPST push button switch? What happens when > you disconnect both wires from the switch? Does the chime stop? Touch the > wires together, does the chime turn on again? If so, your switch is the wrong > type. Use a multimeter on the switch contacts, and see what the switch does. > The switch could be grounded also, with one of the poles being momentary > "on" and the other always "on" always and off when pushed. > > Kevin Mc > Yorba Linda, CA > 86 38 PT > > > > ************ ********* ********* ******** See what's free at http://www.aol. com. > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > <!-- #ygrp-mlmsg {font-size:13px;font-family:arial, helvetica, clean, sans-serif;} #ygrp-mlmsg table {font-size:inherit;font:100%;} #ygrp-mlmsg select, input, textarea {font:99% arial, helvetica, clean, sans-serif;} #ygrp-mlmsg pre, code {font:115% monospace;} #ygrp-mlmsg * {line-height:1.22em;} #ygrp-text{ font-family:Georgia; } #ygrp-text p{ margin:0 0 1em 0;} #ygrp-tpmsgs{ font-family:Arial; clear:both;} #ygrp-vitnav{ padding-top:10px;font-family:Verdana;font-size:77%;margin:0;} #ygrp-vitnav a{ padding:0 1px;} #ygrp-actbar{ clear:both;margin:25px 0;white-space:nowrap;color:#666;text-align:right;} #ygrp-actbar .left{ float:left;white-space:nowrap;} .bld{font-weight:bold;} #ygrp-grft{ font-family:Verdana;font-size:77%;padding:15px 0;} #ygrp-ft{ font-family:verdana;font-size:77%;border-top:1px solid #666; padding:5px 0; } #ygrp-mlmsg #logo{ padding-bottom:10px;} #ygrp-vital{ background-color:#e0ecee;margin-bottom:20px;padding:2px 0 8px 8px;} #ygrp-vital #vithd{ font-size:77%;font-family:Verdana;font-weight:bold;color:#333;text-transform:upp\ ercase;} #ygrp-vital ul{ padding:0;margin:2px 0;} #ygrp-vital ul li{ list-style-type:none;clear:both;border:1px solid #e0ecee; } #ygrp-vital ul li .ct{ font-weight:bold;color:#ff7900;float:right;width:2em;text-align:right;padding-ri\ ght:.5em;} #ygrp-vital ul li .cat{ font-weight:bold;} #ygrp-vital a { text-decoration:none;} #ygrp-vital a:hover{ text-decoration:underline;} #ygrp-sponsor #hd{ color:#999;font-size:77%;} #ygrp-sponsor #ov{ padding:6px 13px;background-color:#e0ecee;margin-bottom:20px;} #ygrp-sponsor #ov ul{ padding:0 0 0 8px;margin:0;} #ygrp-sponsor #ov li{ list-style-type:square;padding:6px 0;font-size:77%;} #ygrp-sponsor #ov li a{ text-decoration:none;font-size:130%;} #ygrp-sponsor #nc { background-color:#eee;margin-bottom:20px;padding:0 8px;} #ygrp-sponsor .ad{ padding:8px 0;} #ygrp-sponsor .ad #hd1{ font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold;color:#628c2a;font-size:100%;line-height:122%\ ;} #ygrp-sponsor .ad a{ text-decoration:none;} #ygrp-sponsor .ad a:hover{ text-decoration:underline;} #ygrp-sponsor .ad p{ margin:0;} o {font-size:0;} .MsoNormal { margin:0 0 0 0;} #ygrp-text tt{ font-size:120%;} blockquote{margin:0 0 0 4px;} .replbq {margin:4;} --> __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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04-03-2007, 11:47
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Keith:
Are the push button switches your getting lighted? I had a similar problem once due to the filiment in a lighted door bell switch. Safe travels, Ralph and Charolette Fullenwider 84FC35 Ralph's RV Solutions, Duncan, Oklahoma At 09:02 PM 4/3/2007 +0000, you wrote: >Yes it stops when disconnected from the switch. I don't know what an >SPST switch is but yes it only rings once when the wires are touched >together. I figured I bought a bad switch but same thing happened >with the second new switch. I bought the switches at Home Depot. > >So you think if I reverse the wires it might work? > >Unfortunately I popped the fuse while I was fooling around with it. >Now I gotta go look for the fuse... > >Keith >84FC35 > > >--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, krminyl@... wrote: > > > > Are you sure it's a momentary, SPST push button switch? What >happens when > > you disconnect both wires from the switch? Does the chime stop? >Touch the > > wires together, does the chime turn on again? If so, your switch >is the wrong > > type. Use a multimeter on the switch contacts, and see what the >switch does. > > The switch could be grounded also, with one of the poles being >momentary > > "on" and the other always "on" always and off when pushed. > > > > Kevin Mc > > Yorba Linda, CA > > 86 38 PT > > > > > > > > ************************************** See what's free at >http://www.aol.com. > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > >Yahoo! Groups Links > > > Safe travels, Ralph and Charolette Fullenwider 84FC35 Ralph's RV Solutions, Duncan, Oklahoma |
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04-03-2007, 20:50
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Hi Keith,
That same thing happened to me- I believe that it has something to do with the original door chime button being an "insulated" switch. Most of the newer residential ones are mounted to wood brick molding or a non-grounded aluminum screen door frame. In a residential application, this doesn't matter because the door frame is not grounded, so if the metal housing for a residential switch contacts the spring mechanism in the doorbell- nothing happens. On our coaches, however, this creates problems because the skin of the coach serves as a ground and as soon as you attach to new doorbell, the switch grounds itself. Bluebird appears to have used an insulated switch mechanism where the spring does not contact the metal switch housing. I'd like to replace mine too, but it's not very high on the priorities list so I did not pursue it. Please let us know if you find a suitable replacement. Shane Fedeli 85PT40 Hershey, PA --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Keith Strehle" > > It's a standard door bell switch from Home Depot. It releases when > you stop pushing. But even if you pushed it down and held it there > the bell should stop ringing until you push it again. Otherwise > every kid in the hood would be taping your dooebell button down! > It's a basic doorbell switch just like the one in my house. There > must be something else to this story. ????????? > > Keith > 84FC35 > > > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Gregory OConnor" > > > > > Keith, Kevin is thinking you are using the wrong switch. You need a > > momentary switch like the old starter buttons; the moment you push- > > it makes contact, the moment you release- it loses contact. If the > > doorbell button you are using now clicks when pushed, it may > unclick > > when pushed the second time. That would be a POPO switch > > > > > > I am looking for a door bell chime that rings like the NewMoon > > trailer in the LongLong Trailer movie. > > GregoryO'Connor > > 94PTRomolandCa > > > > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Keith Strehle" > > > > > > > > Okay, I got it. SPST = Single Pole Single Throw. A SPST > momentary > > > switch returns to its normally open (off) position when you > release > > > the button. A standard doorbell switch. It doesn't solve the > > problem > > > (yet) but I know what it is now... > > > > > > Thanks, Keith > > > 84FC35 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, krminyl@ wrote: > > > > > > > > Are you sure it's a momentary, SPST push button switch? What > > > happens when > > > > you disconnect both wires from the switch? Does the chime > > stop? > > > Touch the > > > > wires together, does the chime turn on again? If so, your > > switch > > > is the wrong > > > > type. Use a multimeter on the switch contacts, and see what > the > > > switch does. > > > > The switch could be grounded also, with one of the poles > being > > > momentary > > > > "on" and the other always "on" always and off when pushed. > > > > > > > > Kevin Mc > > > > Yorba Linda, CA > > > > 86 38 PT > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ************************************** See what's free at > > > http://www.aol.com. > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > > > |
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04-04-2007, 03:09
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Thanks Kevin, I tried the multimeter idea. On the resistance mode
the doorbell only showed resistance when tne button was pushed. And like some others said it may have something to do with being a lighted switch? I'm gonna call Bluebird today and see what the have to say. Normally I wouldn't care but right now I have the two wires hanging outside the hole. It looks bad... Keith 84FC35 --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, krminyl@... wrote: > > Are you sure it's a momentary, SPST push button switch? What happens when > you disconnect both wires from the switch? Does the chime stop? Touch the > wires together, does the chime turn on again? If so, your switch is the wrong > type. Use a multimeter on the switch contacts, and see what the switch does. > The switch could be grounded also, with one of the poles being momentary > "on" and the other always "on" always and off when pushed. > > Kevin Mc > Yorba Linda, CA > 86 38 PT > > > > ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > |
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