Driving lights -operation?
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10-14-2007, 04:19
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Driving lights -operation?
I'm in the process of trying to get my driving lights working. So far
I've figured out: 1.) the high beams have to be on 2.) the suspension has to be up 3.) one lens is clear the other is amber (is this normal)? They won't swing down all the way without a little manual help. On the air valve, there is a fitting that looks somewhat like a brake bleeder fitting. What is the purpose of that? And is it adjustable? When the switch is in position to put the lights down, air escapes from it. When I cover the escaping air with my hand, the lights swing up. And where do I buy a new one since I broke the old one? Tom Sorrentino 1987 PT38 Bedford Hills, NY |
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10-14-2007, 06:06
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Tom,
Here are some notes that I saved some time ago. Hope this helps. Please keep us posting on your project. First note: Alan there is a switch that the light has to touch to turn the light on. The light can be adjusted to hit it. If the cylinder is bad it is a Clippard. Mine is an SDR-20-3 & I got two new ones for sixty dollars for both. That made mine work fine after I adjusted them to come the whole way down. I don't think you can repair them. Don 89 SP 36' Butler, PA Second note: These lights to operate. Dash Switch ON Headlights Must be on High beam must be on Coach must be at ride hieght. If The lights won't lower check micro switches mouted on light brackests. Air control valves are under the front electricial panel. And of course last of all the air cylinders. The bulbs are replaceable, as for as the lens???? Good Luck Allen Powell 88 WLWB PT40 On 10/14/07, thomas_sorrentino > > I'm in the process of trying to get my driving lights working. So far > I've figured out: > 1.) the high beams have to be on > 2.) the suspension has to be up > 3.) one lens is clear the other is amber (is this normal)? > They won't swing down all the way without a little manual help. > On the air valve, there is a fitting that looks somewhat like a brake > bleeder fitting. What is the purpose of that? And is it adjustable? > When the switch is in position to put the lights down, air escapes from > it. When I cover the escaping air with my hand, the lights swing up. > And where do I buy a new one since I broke the old one? > > Tom Sorrentino > 1987 PT38 > Bedford Hills, NY > > > -- Curt Sprenger 1987 PT38 8V92 "MacAttack Racing" Anaheim Hills, CA [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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10-14-2007, 07:18
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Curt,
Thanks! When I have all the switches in the correct positions, the lights just don't swing down far enough. I'd say they come down about 50%. When I manually push them back to hit the micro switch they come on fine and stay on. I think my problem is more of an air cylinder, or adjustment problem. Thats why I'm trying to figure out about the air escaping out of the brake bleeder looking thing on the air cylinder. Tom Sorrentino 1987 PT38 Bedford Hills, NY --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Curt Sprenger" > > Tom, > > Here are some notes that I saved some time ago. Hope this helps. Please keep > us posting on your project. > > First note: > Alan there is a switch that the light has to touch to turn the light on. The > > light can be adjusted to hit it. If the cylinder is bad it is a Clippard. > Mine is an SDR-20-3 & I got two new ones for sixty dollars for both. That > made > mine work fine after I adjusted them to come the whole way down. I don't > think you can repair them. > Don > 89 SP 36' > Butler, PA > > Second note: > These lights to operate. > Dash Switch ON > Headlights Must be on > High beam must be on > Coach must be at ride hieght. > > If The lights won't lower check micro switches mouted on light > brackests. > Air control valves are under the front electricial panel. > And of course last of all the air cylinders. > The bulbs are replaceable, as for as the lens???? > Good Luck > Allen Powell > 88 WLWB PT40 > > > On 10/14/07, thomas_sorrentino > > > > I'm in the process of trying to get my driving lights working. So far > > I've figured out: > > 1.) the high beams have to be on > > 2.) the suspension has to be up > > 3.) one lens is clear the other is amber (is this normal)? > > They won't swing down all the way without a little manual help. > > On the air valve, there is a fitting that looks somewhat like a brake > > bleeder fitting. What is the purpose of that? And is it adjustable? > > When the switch is in position to put the lights down, air escapes from > > it. When I cover the escaping air with my hand, the lights swing up. > > And where do I buy a new one since I broke the old one? > > > > Tom Sorrentino > > 1987 PT38 > > Bedford Hills, NY > > > > > > > > > > -- > Curt Sprenger > 1987 PT38 8V92 "MacAttack Racing" > Anaheim Hills, CA > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > |
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10-21-2007, 10:44
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Coincidently, I was checking all the lights the other night. I tried
the Fog/Driving light switch. Nothing. At Holland Motor Homes, I asked them to chek the bulbs and/or power. They said the Fog/driving lights came on with HIGH beams! Why would anyone want these lights meant for fog on when high beams do not work well in fog? Just to see what cars do, I checked all I had. All makes, years and models worked only on low beams and never on high. Those include '07 BMW X3, '01 BMW, '06 Mini Cooper, '07 Astin Martin. Now I read you guys saying yours only come on with high beams, too. Why? I thought somebody reversed mine at some point. What is the logic, or lack thereof, in this setup? Tommy 2 Shoes McCarthy 95 PT42 Poway CA --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Curt Sprenger" > > Tom, > > Here are some notes that I saved some time ago. Hope this helps. Please keep > us posting on your project. > > First note: > Alan there is a switch that the light has to touch to turn the light on. The > > light can be adjusted to hit it. If the cylinder is bad it is a Clippard. > Mine is an SDR-20-3 & I got two new ones for sixty dollars for both. That > made > mine work fine after I adjusted them to come the whole way down. I don't > think you can repair them. > Don > 89 SP 36' > Butler, PA > > Second note: > These lights to operate. > Dash Switch ON > Headlights Must be on > High beam must be on > Coach must be at ride hieght. > > If The lights won't lower check micro switches mouted on light > brackests. > Air control valves are under the front electricial panel. > And of course last of all the air cylinders. > The bulbs are replaceable, as for as the lens???? > Good Luck > Allen Powell > 88 WLWB PT40 > > > On 10/14/07, thomas_sorrentino > > > > I'm in the process of trying to get my driving lights working. So far > > I've figured out: > > 1.) the high beams have to be on > > 2.) the suspension has to be up > > 3.) one lens is clear the other is amber (is this normal)? > > They won't swing down all the way without a little manual help. > > On the air valve, there is a fitting that looks somewhat like a brake > > bleeder fitting. What is the purpose of that? And is it adjustable? > > When the switch is in position to put the lights down, air escapes from > > it. When I cover the escaping air with my hand, the lights swing up. > > And where do I buy a new one since I broke the old one? > > > > Tom Sorrentino > > 1987 PT38 > > Bedford Hills, NY > > > > > > > > > > -- > Curt Sprenger > 1987 PT38 8V92 "MacAttack Racing" > Anaheim Hills, CA > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > |
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10-21-2007, 10:49
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Whether it makes sense, or not, that's how it works. I guess they
consider them "driving" lights. When I had an MG-B sports car, I had high intensity driving lights that came on with high-beam unless their separate switch was off. "Fog" lights are normally set to work with low beam. Also the rear "landing lights" only operate when the coach is in reverse. Not much help when I wanted some light to unhook my toad -- I sure didn't want to put the bus in reverse to then work behind it! I plan to re-wire the rear lights someday.... Pete Masterson aeonix1@... 1995 Wanderlodge WBDA 42 On the road at Idaho Springs, CO On Oct 21, 2007, at 4:44 PM, Tom McCarthy wrote: > Coincidently, I was checking all the lights the other night. I tried > the Fog/Driving light switch. Nothing. At Holland Motor Homes, I > asked them to chek the bulbs and/or power. They said the Fog/driving > lights came on with HIGH beams! Why would anyone want these lights > meant for fog on when high beams do not work well in fog? > > Just to see what cars do, I checked all I had. All makes, years and > models worked only on low beams and never on high. Those include '07 > BMW X3, '01 BMW, '06 Mini Cooper, '07 Astin Martin. > > Now I read you guys saying yours only come on with high beams, too. > Why? I thought somebody reversed mine at some point. What is the > logic, or lack thereof, in this setup? > > Tommy 2 Shoes McCarthy > 95 PT42 > Poway CA |
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10-21-2007, 10:59
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On 21/10/2007, Pete Masterson
> > Whether it makes sense, or not, that's how it works. I guess they > consider them "driving" lights. When I had an MG-B sports car, I had > high intensity driving lights that came on with high-beam unless > their separate switch was off. "Fog" lights are normally set to work > with low beam. > > Also the rear "landing lights" only operate when the coach is in > reverse. Not much help when I wanted some light to unhook my toad -- > I sure didn't want to put the bus in reverse to then work behind it! > I plan to re-wire the rear lights someday.... > > Pete Masterson > aeonix1@... > 1995 Wanderlodge WBDA 42 > On the road at Idaho Springs, CO > > On Oct 21, 2007, at 4:44 PM, Tom McCarthy wrote: > > > Coincidently, I was checking all the lights the other night. I tried > > the Fog/Driving light switch. Nothing. At Holland Motor Homes, I > > asked them to chek the bulbs and/or power. They said the Fog/driving > > lights came on with HIGH beams! Why would anyone want these lights > > meant for fog on when high beams do not work well in fog? > > > > Just to see what cars do, I checked all I had. All makes, years and > > models worked only on low beams and never on high. Those include '07 > > BMW X3, '01 BMW, '06 Mini Cooper, '07 Astin Martin. > > > > Now I read you guys saying yours only come on with high beams, too. > > Why? I thought somebody reversed mine at some point. What is the > > logic, or lack thereof, in this setup? > > > > Tommy 2 Shoes McCarthy > > 95 PT42 > > Poway CA > > > -- Rob, Sue & Merlin Robinson 94 WLWB [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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10-21-2007, 11:01
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Tommy my lights are fog lights and they only come on if I have my main
lights on and set to low beam. My manual says that if I had driving lights in place of the fog lights the driving lights would only come on with the main lights on and high beam setting. On 21/10/2007, Tom McCarthy > > Coincidently, I was checking all the lights the other night. I tried > the Fog/Driving light switch. Nothing. At Holland Motor Homes, I > asked them to chek the bulbs and/or power. They said the Fog/driving > lights came on with HIGH beams! Why would anyone want these lights > meant for fog on when high beams do not work well in fog? > > Just to see what cars do, I checked all I had. All makes, years and > models worked only on low beams and never on high. Those include '07 > BMW X3, '01 BMW, '06 Mini Cooper, '07 Astin Martin. > > Now I read you guys saying yours only come on with high beams, too. > Why? I thought somebody reversed mine at some point. What is the > logic, or lack thereof, in this setup? > > Tommy 2 Shoes McCarthy > 95 PT42 > Poway CA > > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com > "Curt Sprenger" > > > > > Tom, > > > > Here are some notes that I saved some time ago. Hope this helps. > Please keep > > us posting on your project. > > > > First note: > > Alan there is a switch that the light has to touch to turn the > light on. The > > > > light can be adjusted to hit it. If the cylinder is bad it is a > Clippard. > > Mine is an SDR-20-3 & I got two new ones for sixty dollars for > both. That > > made > > mine work fine after I adjusted them to come the whole way down. I > don't > > think you can repair them. > > Don > > 89 SP 36' > > Butler, PA > > > > Second note: > > These lights to operate. > > Dash Switch ON > > Headlights Must be on > > High beam must be on > > Coach must be at ride hieght. > > > > If The lights won't lower check micro switches mouted on light > > brackests. > > Air control valves are under the front electricial panel. > > And of course last of all the air cylinders. > > The bulbs are replaceable, as for as the lens???? > > Good Luck > > Allen Powell > > 88 WLWB PT40 > > > > > > On 10/14/07, thomas_sorrentino > > > > > > I'm in the process of trying to get my driving lights working. > So far > > > I've figured out: > > > 1.) the high beams have to be on > > > 2.) the suspension has to be up > > > 3.) one lens is clear the other is amber (is this normal)? > > > They won't swing down all the way without a little manual help. > > > On the air valve, there is a fitting that looks somewhat like a > brake > > > bleeder fitting. What is the purpose of that? And is it > adjustable? > > > When the switch is in position to put the lights down, air > escapes from > > > it. When I cover the escaping air with my hand, the lights swing > up. > > > And where do I buy a new one since I broke the old one? > > > > > > Tom Sorrentino > > > 1987 PT38 > > > Bedford Hills, NY > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Curt Sprenger > > 1987 PT38 8V92 "MacAttack Racing" > > Anaheim Hills, CA > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > -- Rob, Sue & Merlin Robinson 94 WLWB [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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10-21-2007, 11:14
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From: Tom McCarthy To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, October 21, 2007 5:44 PM Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: Driving lights -operation? Mine use to only come on with the hi beams.Took care of that problem rewired them thought a relay to turn on by them self. Bob Loomas 1985 PT 36 Coincidently, I was checking all the lights the other night. I tried the Fog/Driving light switch. Nothing. At Holland Motor Homes, I asked them to chek the bulbs and/or power. They said the Fog/driving lights came on with HIGH beams! Why would anyone want these lights meant for fog on when high beams do not work well in fog? Just to see what cars do, I checked all I had. All makes, years and models worked only on low beams and never on high. Those include '07 BMW X3, '01 BMW, '06 Mini Cooper, '07 Astin Martin. Now I read you guys saying yours only come on with high beams, too. Why? I thought somebody reversed mine at some point. What is the logic, or lack thereof, in this setup? Tommy 2 Shoes McCarthy 95 PT42 Poway CA --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Curt Sprenger" > > Tom, > > Here are some notes that I saved some time ago. Hope this helps. Please keep > us posting on your project. > > First note: > Alan there is a switch that the light has to touch to turn the light on. The > > light can be adjusted to hit it. If the cylinder is bad it is a Clippard. > Mine is an SDR-20-3 & I got two new ones for sixty dollars for both. That > made > mine work fine after I adjusted them to come the whole way down. I don't > think you can repair them. > Don > 89 SP 36' > Butler, PA > > Second note: > These lights to operate. > Dash Switch ON > Headlights Must be on > High beam must be on > Coach must be at ride hieght. > > If The lights won't lower check micro switches mouted on light > brackests. > Air control valves are under the front electricial panel. > And of course last of all the air cylinders. > The bulbs are replaceable, as for as the lens???? > Good Luck > Allen Powell > 88 WLWB PT40 > > > On 10/14/07, thomas_sorrentino > > > > I'm in the process of trying to get my driving lights working. So far > > I've figured out: > > 1.) the high beams have to be on > > 2.) the suspension has to be up > > 3.) one lens is clear the other is amber (is this normal)? > > They won't swing down all the way without a little manual help. > > On the air valve, there is a fitting that looks somewhat like a brake > > bleeder fitting. What is the purpose of that? And is it adjustable? > > When the switch is in position to put the lights down, air escapes from > > it. When I cover the escaping air with my hand, the lights swing up. > > And where do I buy a new one since I broke the old one? > > > > Tom Sorrentino > > 1987 PT38 > > Bedford Hills, NY > > > > > > > > > > -- > Curt Sprenger > 1987 PT38 8V92 "MacAttack Racing" > Anaheim Hills, CA > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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10-21-2007, 11:14
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Rob, the switch reads "Fog/Driving Lights." From this information,
the two apparently are mutually exclusive. I rarely need high beams but often get nighttime fog in CA. I asked HMH if they could switch the operation to FOG and low beams, just like my fleet of autos. Tommy 2S McCarthy Poway CA --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Rob Robinson" > > Tommy my lights are fog lights and they only come on if I have my main > lights on and set to low beam. My manual says that if I had driving lights > in place of the fog lights the driving lights would only come on with the > main lights on and high beam setting. > > On 21/10/2007, Tom McCarthy > > > > Coincidently, I was checking all the lights the other night. I tried > > the Fog/Driving light switch. Nothing. At Holland Motor Homes, I > > asked them to chek the bulbs and/or power. They said the Fog/driving > > lights came on with HIGH beams! Why would anyone want these lights > > meant for fog on when high beams do not work well in fog? > > > > Just to see what cars do, I checked all I had. All makes, years and > > models worked only on low beams and never on high. Those include '07 > > BMW X3, '01 BMW, '06 Mini Cooper, '07 Astin Martin. > > > > Now I read you guys saying yours only come on with high beams, too. > > Why? I thought somebody reversed mine at some point. What is the > > logic, or lack thereof, in this setup? > > > > Tommy 2 Shoes McCarthy > > 95 PT42 > > Poway CA > > > > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com > > "Curt Sprenger" > > > > > > > > Tom, > > > > > > Here are some notes that I saved some time ago. Hope this helps. > > Please keep > > > us posting on your project. > > > > > > First note: > > > Alan there is a switch that the light has to touch to turn the > > light on. The > > > > > > light can be adjusted to hit it. If the cylinder is bad it is a > > Clippard. > > > Mine is an SDR-20-3 & I got two new ones for sixty dollars for > > both. That > > > made > > > mine work fine after I adjusted them to come the whole way down. I > > don't > > > think you can repair them. > > > Don > > > 89 SP 36' > > > Butler, PA > > > > > > Second note: > > > These lights to operate. > > > Dash Switch ON > > > Headlights Must be on > > > High beam must be on > > > Coach must be at ride hieght. > > > > > > If The lights won't lower check micro switches mouted on light > > > brackests. > > > Air control valves are under the front electricial panel. > > > And of course last of all the air cylinders. > > > The bulbs are replaceable, as for as the lens???? > > > Good Luck > > > Allen Powell > > > 88 WLWB PT40 > > > > > > > > > On 10/14/07, thomas_sorrentino > > > > > > > > I'm in the process of trying to get my driving lights working. > > So far > > > > I've figured out: > > > > 1.) the high beams have to be on > > > > 2.) the suspension has to be up > > > > 3.) one lens is clear the other is amber (is this normal)? > > > > They won't swing down all the way without a little manual help. > > > > On the air valve, there is a fitting that looks somewhat like a > > brake > > > > bleeder fitting. What is the purpose of that? And is it > > adjustable? > > > > When the switch is in position to put the lights down, air > > escapes from > > > > it. When I cover the escaping air with my hand, the lights swing > > up. > > > > And where do I buy a new one since I broke the old one? > > > > > > > > Tom Sorrentino > > > > 1987 PT38 > > > > Bedford Hills, NY > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > Curt Sprenger > > > 1987 PT38 8V92 "MacAttack Racing" > > > Anaheim Hills, CA > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > Rob, Sue & Merlin Robinson > 94 WLWB > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > |
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10-21-2007, 11:17
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Well, I belive that (at least on mine) they are driving lights not fog lamps.
/once activated by suspension up high beams on they do operate on low beam Jim Riordan See you al at RITV Tom McCarthy Coincidently, I was checking all the lights the other night. I tried the Fog/Driving light switch. Nothing. At Holland Motor Homes, I asked them to chek the bulbs and/or power. They said the Fog/driving lights came on with HIGH beams! Why would anyone want these lights meant for fog on when high beams do not work well in fog? Just to see what cars do, I checked all I had. All makes, years and models worked only on low beams and never on high. Those include '07 BMW X3, '01 BMW, '06 Mini Cooper, '07 Astin Martin. Now I read you guys saying yours only come on with high beams, too. Why? I thought somebody reversed mine at some point. What is the logic, or lack thereof, in this setup? Tommy 2 Shoes McCarthy 95 PT42 Poway CA --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Curt Sprenger" > > Tom, > > Here are some notes that I saved some time ago. Hope this helps. Please keep > us posting on your project. > > First note: > Alan there is a switch that the light has to touch to turn the light on. The > > light can be adjusted to hit it. If the cylinder is bad it is a Clippard. > Mine is an SDR-20-3 & I got two new ones for sixty dollars for both. That > made > mine work fine after I adjusted them to come the whole way down. I don't > think you can repair them. > Don > 89 SP 36' > Butler, PA > > Second note: > These lights to operate. > Dash Switch ON > Headlights Must be on > High beam must be on > Coach must be at ride hieght. > > If The lights won't lower check micro switches mouted on light > brackests. > Air control valves are under the front electricial panel. > And of course last of all the air cylinders. > The bulbs are replaceable, as for as the lens???? > Good Luck > Allen Powell > 88 WLWB PT40 > > > On 10/14/07, thomas_sorrentino > > > > I'm in the process of trying to get my driving lights working. So far > > I've figured out: > > 1.) the high beams have to be on > > 2.) the suspension has to be up > > 3.) one lens is clear the other is amber (is this normal)? > > They won't swing down all the way without a little manual help. > > On the air valve, there is a fitting that looks somewhat like a brake > > bleeder fitting. What is the purpose of that? And is it adjustable? > > When the switch is in position to put the lights down, air escapes from > > it. When I cover the escaping air with my hand, the lights swing up. > > And where do I buy a new one since I broke the old one? > > > > Tom Sorrentino > > 1987 PT38 > > Bedford Hills, NY > > > > > > > > > > -- > Curt Sprenger > 1987 PT38 8V92 "MacAttack Racing" > Anaheim Hills, CA > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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