PT-42 Front Heaters

[Don Bradner]

I think when you look at the 95 brochure at
http://www.millercoachworks.com/images/2_32.JPG the bottom one is WBWL, the next
one up is WBDA

That leaves a tossup on which of the other two is SD and which is TOS, and what
that means.

Don Bradner
90 PT40 "Blue Thunder"
Eureka, CA

On 11/23/2007 at 3:06 PM Pete Masterson wrote:

>WBDA means "wide body, diagonal aisle" as my coach is 102" wide (wide
>body) and has a diagonal refrigerator located on the centerline of
>the coach leading to a side aisle that goes past the bathroom (with a
>door on the aisle). Interestingly, Mr. Olivers now has a 95 with the
>diagonal aisle -- but a full width bath. So I don't know what they'd
>call it.
>
>WBWL is "wide body, WanderLodge" -- not really very descriptive.
>WBSD I'd guess is wide body side "d" (whatever "d" is) and so on...
>
>See vintage birds web site where they have some of the Wanderlodge
>alphabet soup spelled out...
>
>Pete Masterson
>'95 Blue Bird Wanderlodge WBDA 42
>aeonix1@...
>On the road at Lockhart Texas

[Pete Masterson]

Indeed, the 2nd floor plan from the bottom is a dead ringer for my
coach (except for slight differences in the original forward salon
arrangement -- mine had dual sofas instead of a chair/table. (Of
course, I've since removed the sofas and now have a large desk and
horizontal filing cabinets along with bamboo flooring instead of
carpet.)

The '95 at Mr. Olivers is pretty much the same as the top floor plan.

The '97 at Mr. Olivers is configured very much like the bottom floor
plan. Apparently not much difference between the 95 and 97 model
other than the evolution of the various components (500 hp Series 60
vs. 470 hp Series 60, etc.)


Pete Masterson
'95 Blue Bird Wanderlodge WBDA 42
aeonix1@...
On the road at Lockhart, Texas



On Nov 23, 2007, at 5:44 PM, Don Bradner wrote:

> I think when you look at the 95 brochure at http://
> http://www.millercoachworks.com/images/2_32.JPG the bottom one is WBWL,
> the next one up is WBDA
>
> That leaves a tossup on which of the other two is SD and which is
> TOS, and what that means.
>
> Don Bradner
> 90 PT40 "Blue Thunder"
> Eureka, CA
>
> On 11/23/2007 at 3:06 PM Pete Masterson wrote:
>
>> WBDA means "wide body, diagonal aisle" as my coach is 102" wide (wide
>> body) and has a diagonal refrigerator located on the centerline of
>> the coach leading to a side aisle that goes past the bathroom (with a
>> door on the aisle). Interestingly, Mr. Olivers now has a 95 with the
>> diagonal aisle -- but a full width bath. So I don't know what they'd
>> call it.
>>
>> WBWL is "wide body, WanderLodge" -- not really very descriptive.
>> WBSD I'd guess is wide body side "d" (whatever "d" is) and so on...
>>
>> See vintage birds web site where they have some of the Wanderlodge
>> alphabet soup spelled out...
>>
>> Pete Masterson
>> '95 Blue Bird Wanderlodge WBDA 42
>> aeonix1@...
>> On the road at Lockhart Texas
>
>
>
>
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>

[Kurt Horvath]

Pete,

I looked at the brochures at Millercoachworks.com again. my interior is not
there not even close.
I have two sofas. The kichen is on the road side with an angled refer. The sink
is near the sofa end and the 2 burner gas top stove is near the fridge the
burners are side by side. Curb side table & 2 chairs. The bathroom has the sink
up against the back of the angled fridge in a half round cabinet, then the
commode,the 1/4 round glass shower, all on the road side. The curb side bath
starts at slide out pantry then there is a countertop about 4' long over a set
cabinets a door with two shelves then three drawers, The armoire has a washer /
dryer, what a waste of space, anybody want to buy it, Splendide 2000, on the
left side. The right side you can hang clothes and has a laundry hamper. It has
mirrors everywhere except in the shower. Very revealing. After this the bedroom
is generic BB with the exception that it has no mirrors behind the Headboard, it
has a real window.Headboard is on the roadside.


Kurt Horvath
95 PT-42
10AC
----- Original Message ----
From: Pete Masterson
To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, November 23, 2007 7:38:10 PM
Subject: Re: [WanderlodgeForum] PT-42 Front Heaters

Indeed, the 2nd floor plan from the bottom is a dead ringer for my
coach (except for slight differences in the original forward salon
arrangement -- mine had dual sofas instead of a chair/table. (Of
course, I've since removed the sofas and now have a large desk and
horizontal filing cabinets along with bamboo flooring instead of
carpet.)

The '95 at Mr. Olivers is pretty much the same as the top floor plan.

The '97 at Mr. Olivers is configured very much like the bottom floor
plan. Apparently not much difference between the 95 and 97 model
other than the evolution of the various components (500 hp Series 60
vs. 470 hp Series 60, etc.)

Pete Masterson
'95 Blue Bird Wanderlodge WBDA 42
aeonix1@mac. com
On the road at Lockhart, Texas

On Nov 23, 2007, at 5:44 PM, Don Bradner wrote:

> I think when you look at the 95 brochure at http://
> http://www.millercoachwork s.com/images/ 2_32.JPG the bottom one is WBWL,
> the next one up is WBDA
>
> That leaves a tossup on which of the other two is SD and which is
> TOS, and what that means.
>
> Don Bradner
> 90 PT40 "Blue Thunder"
> Eureka, CA
>
> On 11/23/2007 at 3:06 PM Pete Masterson wrote:
>
>> WBDA means "wide body, diagonal aisle" as my coach is 102" wide (wide
>> body) and has a diagonal refrigerator located on the centerline of
>> the coach leading to a side aisle that goes past the bathroom (with a
>> door on the aisle). Interestingly, Mr. Olivers now has a 95 with the
>> diagonal aisle -- but a full width bath. So I don't know what they'd
>> call it.
>>
>> WBWL is "wide body, WanderLodge" -- not really very descriptive.
>> WBSD I'd guess is wide body side "d" (whatever "d" is) and so on...
>>
>> See vintage birds web site where they have some of the Wanderlodge
>> alphabet soup spelled out...
>>
>> Pete Masterson
>> '95 Blue Bird Wanderlodge WBDA 42
>> aeonix1@mac. com
>> On the road at Lockhart Texas
>
>
>
>
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>






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[mbrund]

Pete,

Assuming you have the same one that came in my 92 coach from the
factory, the Alarm system is armed one of two differnet ways: 1)
switch inside the coach, 2) keyfob.

It can be armed while inside the coach by flipping the three
position switch located in the cockpit cabinet to the right of the
drivers knees by placing it to the Mikes ON position. My coach came
with two square keyfobs which arm/disarm the unit from outside the
coach. To use the keyfobs I believe the switch in the cabinet has to
be in the Mikes Off position and then keyfobs can arm/disarm the
system. My coach has an LED near the outside keypad near the door
that lets you know it is armed. The alarm speaker is located in the
side compartment below the driver cockpit where the generator
raditor is located. To disable the system, place the switch in
System Off position.

The keyfobs that are supplied as part of that system are sealer
units, and the batteries can not be replaced. I had to order two
new keyfobs for mine. When I called the company, I had to supply
them with the information on the back of my keyfobs which appeared
to be the serial numbers assigned to that unit. If you do not have
the original keyfobs with a serial number label on the back of them
I am not sure if you can get new keyfobs.

Michael Brundridge
92 WB40
Georgetown, TX



--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, Pete Masterson
wrote:
>
> Looks like I need to do some digging in the front dash area... I
> probably have the same situation with the fans under the front
dash.
>
> Alarm system: My coach was reported to not have an alarm system.
> There is nothing (obvious) that arms it -- although there was one
Ace
> key (the round kind) that came with the coach and I haven't found
> anyplace where it is used. That said, when I experimented with
the
> panic switch above the bed, an alarm sounded (darned if I know
where
> it is mounted). I also noticed magnetic switches mounted on the
> bedroom window -- that are commonly used with alarm systems. So,
> there might be an alarm system _somewhere_ but previous owners
were
> unaware of it. Or, the coach is prewired for an alarm system, but
it
> isn't activated until a control box of some sort is installed.
(The
> owner's manual is silent on the topic.)
>
> I also note that there is a switch for a radar detector on the
dash.
> Up at the top of the windshield is a black box thing -- that I
> discovered was empty. So, it's possible that a radar detector was
> installed at one time in the past (and was removed) or that it
was
> never installed, but a bracket for it was. I'm not really
interested
> in a radar detector anyway... (The bracket holds my GPS aerial
very
> nicely.)
>
> As for plugging in the alarm system, I don't think it will shut
down
> the coach -- but it might set off a noisy alarm when you least
expect
> it!
>
> Pete Masterson
> '95 Blue Bird Wanderlodge WBDA 42
> aeonix1@...
> On the road at Lockhart Texas
>
>
>
> On Nov 22, 2007, at 5:49 PM, Kurt Horvath wrote:
>
> > Well now I feel stupid, Tom is right, it is a heater for the
Aqua
> > hot and if I'd have looked past my nose I would have seen the
> > heater core from the CB compartment. I took the little
compartment
> > below the drawer / cup holder out. There is a covering,
plywood,
> > above the heater core. There was a large tangle of wires and
the
> > control box for the musical horns and a wiring loom, all of it
was
> > just lying on top of the fans keeping them from operating. I
moved
> > everything out of the way and it is functioning fine.
> >
> > <snip>The wiring harnesses are not hooked up. I'm not sure if
all
> > of these pieces are related or are for different systems. I was
> > told the coach did not have an alarm system when I bought it
but
> > that appears to be wrong.
> >
> > If some one could tell what this stuff is I'd appreciate it.
I'm
> > hesitant to just plug everything in and wait to see what
happens.
> > The last thing I need is an unknown system shutting down the
coach
> > when least expected.
> >
> > Kurt Horvath, ( bumpersbird )
> > 95 PT-42 WLWB, ( Indulgance )
> > 10AC, ( Tennessee )
>

[Kurt Horvath]

Thanks Michael,

I always wondered what the little LED light near the key pad was for. I plugged
in all the little wiring and it is all for the alarm system. The system is not
working properly the headlight warning light comes on and for some reason the
right hand mirror control lights up. When arming or disarming the headlights
come on with the amber lights. But they go out right away. The little LED does
not light in any position. I would like it to work but it really isn't
necessary, except for the fact that my insurance company will give a discount
off my policy if I have an alarm system. Any idea what the the twist knob and
red light on the smaller of the two boxes is for. The larger box is the receive
for the fobs, it has a short antenna wire. The siren works you can activate it
from the bedside console. If you still have the Manufacturers phone number or
address / e-mail? I would like to have it. Does your system work and do you use
it much? Thanks for your time.

Kurt Horvath
95 PT-42
10AC


----- Original Message ----
From: mbrund <mbrund@...>
To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, November 23, 2007 10:04:16 PM
Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: PT-42 Front Heaters

Pete,

Assuming you have the same one that came in my 92 coach from the
factory, the Alarm system is armed one of two differnet ways: 1)
switch inside the coach, 2) keyfob.

It can be armed while inside the coach by flipping the three
position switch located in the cockpit cabinet to the right of the
drivers knees by placing it to the Mikes ON position. My coach came
with two square keyfobs which arm/disarm the unit from outside the
coach. To use the keyfobs I believe the switch in the cabinet has to
be in the Mikes Off position and then keyfobs can arm/disarm the
system. My coach has an LED near the outside keypad near the door
that lets you know it is armed. The alarm speaker is located in the
side compartment below the driver cockpit where the generator
raditor is located. To disable the system, place the switch in
System Off position.

The keyfobs that are supplied as part of that system are sealer
units, and the batteries can not be replaced. I had to order two
new keyfobs for mine. When I called the company, I had to supply
them with the information on the back of my keyfobs which appeared
to be the serial numbers assigned to that unit. If you do not have
the original keyfobs with a serial number label on the back of them
I am not sure if you can get new keyfobs.

Michael Brundridge
92 WB40
Georgetown, TX

--- In WanderlodgeForum@ yahoogroups. com, Pete Masterson
wrote:
>
> Looks like I need to do some digging in the front dash area... I
> probably have the same situation with the fans under the front
dash.
>
> Alarm system: My coach was reported to not have an alarm system.
> There is nothing (obvious) that arms it -- although there was one
Ace
> key (the round kind) that came with the coach and I haven't found
> anyplace where it is used. That said, when I experimented with
the
> panic switch above the bed, an alarm sounded (darned if I know
where
> it is mounted). I also noticed magnetic switches mounted on the
> bedroom window -- that are commonly used with alarm systems. So,
> there might be an alarm system _somewhere_ but previous owners
were
> unaware of it. Or, the coach is prewired for an alarm system, but
it
> isn't activated until a control box of some sort is installed.
(The
> owner's manual is silent on the topic.)
>
> I also note that there is a switch for a radar detector on the
dash.
> Up at the top of the windshield is a black box thing -- that I
> discovered was empty. So, it's possible that a radar detector was
> installed at one time in the past (and was removed) or that it
was
> never installed, but a bracket for it was. I'm not really
interested
> in a radar detector anyway... (The bracket holds my GPS aerial
very
> nicely.)
>
> As for plugging in the alarm system, I don't think it will shut
down
> the coach -- but it might set off a noisy alarm when you least
expect
> it!
>
> Pete Masterson
> '95 Blue Bird Wanderlodge WBDA 42
> aeonix1@...
> On the road at Lockhart Texas
>
>
>
> On Nov 22, 2007, at 5:49 PM, Kurt Horvath wrote:
>
> > Well now I feel stupid, Tom is right, it is a heater for the
Aqua
> > hot and if I'd have looked past my nose I would have seen the
> > heater core from the CB compartment. I took the little
compartment
> > below the drawer / cup holder out. There is a covering,
plywood,
> > above the heater core. There was a large tangle of wires and
the
> > control box for the musical horns and a wiring loom, all of it
was
> > just lying on top of the fans keeping them from operating. I
moved
> > everything out of the way and it is functioning fine.
> >
> > <snip>The wiring harnesses are not hooked up. I'm not sure if
all
> > of these pieces are related or are for different systems. I was
> > told the coach did not have an alarm system when I bought it
but
> > that appears to be wrong.
> >
> > If some one could tell what this stuff is I'd appreciate it.
I'm
> > hesitant to just plug everything in and wait to see what
happens.
> > The last thing I need is an unknown system shutting down the
coach
> > when least expected.
> >
> > Kurt Horvath, ( bumpersbird )
> > 95 PT-42 WLWB, ( Indulgance )
> > 10AC, ( Tennessee )
>






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[mbrund]

The alarm systems in the BB is horribly under-documented. I have a
seperate doc that came in my bluebox on how to install the alarm
system, and it is about useless. I does show that the unit can
have a shock sensor added to it, so the box you are talking about
may be for shock sensor sensitivity. But I would find it strange
that they installed a shock sensor in the coach as they can move
pretty good with wind gust that would set it off.

When arm/disarm, the alarm speaker in the lower bay should chirp,
and the parking lights/light bar should flash once as a visual
indicator. I believe the headlight alarm light on the upper dash
also flashes when I arm/disarm it inside the coach.

Michael Brundridge
92 WB40
Georgetown, TX

--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, Kurt Horvath
wrote:
>
> Thanks Michael,
>
> I always wondered what the little LED light near the key pad was
for. I plugged in all the little wiring and it is all for the alarm
system. The system is not working properly the headlight warning
light comes on and for some reason the right hand mirror control
lights up. When arming or disarming the headlights come on with the
amber lights. But they go out right away. The little LED does not
light in any position. I would like it to work but it really isn't
necessary, except for the fact that my insurance company will give a
discount off my policy if I have an alarm system. Any idea what the
the twist knob and red light on the smaller of the two boxes is for.
The larger box is the receive for the fobs, it has a short antenna
wire. The siren works you can activate it from the bedside console.
If you still have the Manufacturers phone number or address / e-
mail? I would like to have it. Does your system work and do you use
it much? Thanks for your time.
>
> Kurt Horvath
> 95 PT-42
> 10AC
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: mbrund <mbrund@...>
> To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Friday, November 23, 2007 10:04:16 PM
> Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: PT-42 Front Heaters
>
> Pete,
>
> Assuming you have the same one that came in my 92 coach from the
> factory, the Alarm system is armed one of two differnet ways: 1)
> switch inside the coach, 2) keyfob.
>
> It can be armed while inside the coach by flipping the three
> position switch located in the cockpit cabinet to the right of the
> drivers knees by placing it to the Mikes ON position. My coach
came
> with two square keyfobs which arm/disarm the unit from outside the
> coach. To use the keyfobs I believe the switch in the cabinet has
to
> be in the Mikes Off position and then keyfobs can arm/disarm the
> system. My coach has an LED near the outside keypad near the door
> that lets you know it is armed. The alarm speaker is located in
the
> side compartment below the driver cockpit where the generator
> raditor is located. To disable the system, place the switch in
> System Off position.
>
> The keyfobs that are supplied as part of that system are sealer
> units, and the batteries can not be replaced. I had to order two
> new keyfobs for mine. When I called the company, I had to supply
> them with the information on the back of my keyfobs which appeared
> to be the serial numbers assigned to that unit. If you do not have
> the original keyfobs with a serial number label on the back of
them
> I am not sure if you can get new keyfobs.
>
> Michael Brundridge
> 92 WB40
> Georgetown, TX
>
> --- In WanderlodgeForum@ yahoogroups. com, Pete Masterson
> wrote:
> >
> > Looks like I need to do some digging in the front dash area... I
> > probably have the same situation with the fans under the front
> dash.
> >
> > Alarm system: My coach was reported to not have an alarm system.
> > There is nothing (obvious) that arms it -- although there was
one
> Ace
> > key (the round kind) that came with the coach and I haven't
found
> > anyplace where it is used. That said, when I experimented with
> the
> > panic switch above the bed, an alarm sounded (darned if I know
> where
> > it is mounted). I also noticed magnetic switches mounted on the
> > bedroom window -- that are commonly used with alarm systems. So,
> > there might be an alarm system _somewhere_ but previous owners
> were
> > unaware of it. Or, the coach is prewired for an alarm system,
but
> it
> > isn't activated until a control box of some sort is installed.
> (The
> > owner's manual is silent on the topic.)
> >
> > I also note that there is a switch for a radar detector on the
> dash.
> > Up at the top of the windshield is a black box thing -- that I
> > discovered was empty. So, it's possible that a radar detector
was
> > installed at one time in the past (and was removed) or that it
> was
> > never installed, but a bracket for it was. I'm not really
> interested
> > in a radar detector anyway... (The bracket holds my GPS aerial
> very
> > nicely.)
> >
> > As for plugging in the alarm system, I don't think it will shut
> down
> > the coach -- but it might set off a noisy alarm when you least
> expect
> > it!
> >
> > Pete Masterson
> > '95 Blue Bird Wanderlodge WBDA 42
> > aeonix1@
> > On the road at Lockhart Texas
> >
> >
> >
> > On Nov 22, 2007, at 5:49 PM, Kurt Horvath wrote:
> >
> > > Well now I feel stupid, Tom is right, it is a heater for the
> Aqua
> > > hot and if I'd have looked past my nose I would have seen the
> > > heater core from the CB compartment. I took the little
> compartment
> > > below the drawer / cup holder out. There is a covering,
> plywood,
> > > above the heater core. There was a large tangle of wires and
> the
> > > control box for the musical horns and a wiring loom, all of it
> was
> > > just lying on top of the fans keeping them from operating. I
> moved
> > > everything out of the way and it is functioning fine.
> > >
> > > <snip>The wiring harnesses are not hooked up. I'm not sure if
> all
> > > of these pieces are related or are for different systems. I
was
> > > told the coach did not have an alarm system when I bought it
> but
> > > that appears to be wrong.
> > >
> > > If some one could tell what this stuff is I'd appreciate it.
> I'm
> > > hesitant to just plug everything in and wait to see what
> happens.
> > > The last thing I need is an unknown system shutting down the
> coach
> > > when least expected.
> > >
> > > Kurt Horvath, ( bumpersbird )
> > > 95 PT-42 WLWB, ( Indulgance )
> > > 10AC, ( Tennessee )
> >
>
>
>
>
>
>
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[mbrund]

Forgot to answer the remainder of your questions: Yes my system
works properly, I had to purchase two new keyfobs as they are sealed
units and you can not replace the batteries because they are
sealed. I had to call them and give them the serial # off the back
of the old keyfobs and they programmed two new ones and sent them to
me. So I can arm/disarm it from keyfob or from the Mikes switch
inside. I can also set the panic alarm off from the bedroom
overhead panel as well.

The BB manual also mentions besides the magnetic window sensors that
there are glass breakage sensors in the living and bedroom area, so
that box you mention with the twist knob may be for setting their
sensitivity. I see two sensors in my coach that I am not sure what
they are for, one is on the back of the drivers console, the other
is right above the rear shirt closet mirrored doors. I was thinking
they are temp sensors but have not traced them yet to see where they
go.

The company name is: Alarm Electronics Mfg. Inc, website is:
http://www.alarmelectronics.com
Phone: 704-632-3365

My docs from Them say its mode: Ultralok Gold.

Michael Brundridge
92 WB40
Georgetown,TX

--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, Kurt Horvath
wrote:
>
> Thanks Michael,
>
> I always wondered what the little LED light near the key pad was
for. I plugged in all the little wiring and it is all for the alarm
system. The system is not working properly the headlight warning
light comes on and for some reason the right hand mirror control
lights up. When arming or disarming the headlights come on with the
amber lights. But they go out right away. The little LED does not
light in any position. I would like it to work but it really isn't
necessary, except for the fact that my insurance company will give a
discount off my policy if I have an alarm system. Any idea what the
the twist knob and red light on the smaller of the two boxes is for.
The larger box is the receive for the fobs, it has a short antenna
wire. The siren works you can activate it from the bedside console.
If you still have the Manufacturers phone number or address / e-
mail? I would like to have it. Does your system work and do you use
it much? Thanks for your time.
>
> Kurt Horvath
> 95 PT-42
> 10AC
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: mbrund <mbrund@...>
> To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Friday, November 23, 2007 10:04:16 PM
> Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: PT-42 Front Heaters
>
> Pete,
>
> Assuming you have the same one that came in my 92 coach from the
> factory, the Alarm system is armed one of two differnet ways: 1)
> switch inside the coach, 2) keyfob.
>
> It can be armed while inside the coach by flipping the three
> position switch located in the cockpit cabinet to the right of the
> drivers knees by placing it to the Mikes ON position. My coach
came
> with two square keyfobs which arm/disarm the unit from outside the
> coach. To use the keyfobs I believe the switch in the cabinet has
to
> be in the Mikes Off position and then keyfobs can arm/disarm the
> system. My coach has an LED near the outside keypad near the door
> that lets you know it is armed. The alarm speaker is located in
the
> side compartment below the driver cockpit where the generator
> raditor is located. To disable the system, place the switch in
> System Off position.
>
> The keyfobs that are supplied as part of that system are sealer
> units, and the batteries can not be replaced. I had to order two
> new keyfobs for mine. When I called the company, I had to supply
> them with the information on the back of my keyfobs which appeared
> to be the serial numbers assigned to that unit. If you do not have
> the original keyfobs with a serial number label on the back of
them
> I am not sure if you can get new keyfobs.
>
> Michael Brundridge
> 92 WB40
> Georgetown, TX
>
> --- In WanderlodgeForum@ yahoogroups. com, Pete Masterson
> wrote:
> >
> > Looks like I need to do some digging in the front dash area... I
> > probably have the same situation with the fans under the front
> dash.
> >
> > Alarm system: My coach was reported to not have an alarm system.
> > There is nothing (obvious) that arms it -- although there was
one
> Ace
> > key (the round kind) that came with the coach and I haven't
found
> > anyplace where it is used. That said, when I experimented with
> the
> > panic switch above the bed, an alarm sounded (darned if I know
> where
> > it is mounted). I also noticed magnetic switches mounted on the
> > bedroom window -- that are commonly used with alarm systems. So,
> > there might be an alarm system _somewhere_ but previous owners
> were
> > unaware of it. Or, the coach is prewired for an alarm system,
but
> it
> > isn't activated until a control box of some sort is installed.
> (The
> > owner's manual is silent on the topic.)
> >
> > I also note that there is a switch for a radar detector on the
> dash.
> > Up at the top of the windshield is a black box thing -- that I
> > discovered was empty. So, it's possible that a radar detector
was
> > installed at one time in the past (and was removed) or that it
> was
> > never installed, but a bracket for it was. I'm not really
> interested
> > in a radar detector anyway... (The bracket holds my GPS aerial
> very
> > nicely.)
> >
> > As for plugging in the alarm system, I don't think it will shut
> down
> > the coach -- but it might set off a noisy alarm when you least
> expect
> > it!
> >
> > Pete Masterson
> > '95 Blue Bird Wanderlodge WBDA 42
> > aeonix1@
> > On the road at Lockhart Texas
> >
> >
> >
> > On Nov 22, 2007, at 5:49 PM, Kurt Horvath wrote:
> >
> > > Well now I feel stupid, Tom is right, it is a heater for the
> Aqua
> > > hot and if I'd have looked past my nose I would have seen the
> > > heater core from the CB compartment. I took the little
> compartment
> > > below the drawer / cup holder out. There is a covering,
> plywood,
> > > above the heater core. There was a large tangle of wires and
> the
> > > control box for the musical horns and a wiring loom, all of it
> was
> > > just lying on top of the fans keeping them from operating. I
> moved
> > > everything out of the way and it is functioning fine.
> > >
> > > <snip>The wiring harnesses are not hooked up. I'm not sure if
> all
> > > of these pieces are related or are for different systems. I
was
> > > told the coach did not have an alarm system when I bought it
> but
> > > that appears to be wrong.
> > >
> > > If some one could tell what this stuff is I'd appreciate it.
> I'm
> > > hesitant to just plug everything in and wait to see what
> happens.
> > > The last thing I need is an unknown system shutting down the
> coach
> > > when least expected.
> > >
> > > Kurt Horvath, ( bumpersbird )
> > > 95 PT-42 WLWB, ( Indulgance )
> > > 10AC, ( Tennessee )
> >
>
>
>
>
>
>
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[Rob Robinson]

Micheal do you remember how much the keyfobs were?

On 23/11/2007, mbrund <mbrund@...> wrote:
>
> Forgot to answer the remainder of your questions: Yes my system
> works properly, I had to purchase two new keyfobs as they are sealed
> units and you can not replace the batteries because they are
> sealed. I had to call them and give them the serial # off the back
> of the old keyfobs and they programmed two new ones and sent them to
> me. So I can arm/disarm it from keyfob or from the Mikes switch
> inside. I can also set the panic alarm off from the bedroom
> overhead panel as well.
>
> The BB manual also mentions besides the magnetic window sensors that
> there are glass breakage sensors in the living and bedroom area, so
> that box you mention with the twist knob may be for setting their
> sensitivity. I see two sensors in my coach that I am not sure what
> they are for, one is on the back of the drivers console, the other
> is right above the rear shirt closet mirrored doors. I was thinking
> they are temp sensors but have not traced them yet to see where they
> go.
>
> The company name is: Alarm Electronics Mfg. Inc, website is:
> http://www.alarmelectronics.com
> Phone: 704-632-3365
>
> My docs from Them say its mode: Ultralok Gold.
>
> Michael Brundridge
> 92 WB40
> Georgetown,TX
>
> --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com,
> Kurt Horvath
> wrote:
> >
> > Thanks Michael,
> >
> > I always wondered what the little LED light near the key pad was
> for. I plugged in all the little wiring and it is all for the alarm
> system. The system is not working properly the headlight warning
> light comes on and for some reason the right hand mirror control
> lights up. When arming or disarming the headlights come on with the
> amber lights. But they go out right away. The little LED does not
> light in any position. I would like it to work but it really isn't
> necessary, except for the fact that my insurance company will give a
> discount off my policy if I have an alarm system. Any idea what the
> the twist knob and red light on the smaller of the two boxes is for.
> The larger box is the receive for the fobs, it has a short antenna
> wire. The siren works you can activate it from the bedside console.
> If you still have the Manufacturers phone number or address / e-
> mail? I would like to have it. Does your system work and do you use
> it much? Thanks for your time.
> >
> > Kurt Horvath
> > 95 PT-42
> > 10AC
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message ----
> > From: mbrund <mbrund@...>
> > To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
> > Sent: Friday, November 23, 2007 10:04:16 PM
> > Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: PT-42 Front Heaters
> >
> > Pete,
> >
> > Assuming you have the same one that came in my 92 coach from the
> > factory, the Alarm system is armed one of two differnet ways: 1)
> > switch inside the coach, 2) keyfob.
> >
> > It can be armed while inside the coach by flipping the three
> > position switch located in the cockpit cabinet to the right of the
> > drivers knees by placing it to the Mikes ON position. My coach
> came
> > with two square keyfobs which arm/disarm the unit from outside the
> > coach. To use the keyfobs I believe the switch in the cabinet has
> to
> > be in the Mikes Off position and then keyfobs can arm/disarm the
> > system. My coach has an LED near the outside keypad near the door
> > that lets you know it is armed. The alarm speaker is located in
> the
> > side compartment below the driver cockpit where the generator
> > raditor is located. To disable the system, place the switch in
> > System Off position.
> >
> > The keyfobs that are supplied as part of that system are sealer
> > units, and the batteries can not be replaced. I had to order two
> > new keyfobs for mine. When I called the company, I had to supply
> > them with the information on the back of my keyfobs which appeared
> > to be the serial numbers assigned to that unit. If you do not have
> > the original keyfobs with a serial number label on the back of
> them
> > I am not sure if you can get new keyfobs.
> >
> > Michael Brundridge
> > 92 WB40
> > Georgetown, TX
> >
> > --- In WanderlodgeForum@ yahoogroups. com, Pete Masterson
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > Looks like I need to do some digging in the front dash area... I
> > > probably have the same situation with the fans under the front
> > dash.
> > >
> > > Alarm system: My coach was reported to not have an alarm system.
> > > There is nothing (obvious) that arms it -- although there was
> one
> > Ace
> > > key (the round kind) that came with the coach and I haven't
> found
> > > anyplace where it is used. That said, when I experimented with
> > the
> > > panic switch above the bed, an alarm sounded (darned if I know
> > where
> > > it is mounted). I also noticed magnetic switches mounted on the
> > > bedroom window -- that are commonly used with alarm systems. So,
> > > there might be an alarm system _somewhere_ but previous owners
> > were
> > > unaware of it. Or, the coach is prewired for an alarm system,
> but
> > it
> > > isn't activated until a control box of some sort is installed.
> > (The
> > > owner's manual is silent on the topic.)
> > >
> > > I also note that there is a switch for a radar detector on the
> > dash.
> > > Up at the top of the windshield is a black box thing -- that I
> > > discovered was empty. So, it's possible that a radar detector
> was
> > > installed at one time in the past (and was removed) or that it
> > was
> > > never installed, but a bracket for it was. I'm not really
> > interested
> > > in a radar detector anyway... (The bracket holds my GPS aerial
> > very
> > > nicely.)
> > >
> > > As for plugging in the alarm system, I don't think it will shut
> > down
> > > the coach -- but it might set off a noisy alarm when you least
> > expect
> > > it!
> > >
> > > Pete Masterson
> > > '95 Blue Bird Wanderlodge WBDA 42
> > > aeonix1@
> > > On the road at Lockhart Texas
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Nov 22, 2007, at 5:49 PM, Kurt Horvath wrote:
> > >
> > > > Well now I feel stupid, Tom is right, it is a heater for the
> > Aqua
> > > > hot and if I'd have looked past my nose I would have seen the
> > > > heater core from the CB compartment. I took the little
> > compartment
> > > > below the drawer / cup holder out. There is a covering,
> > plywood,
> > > > above the heater core. There was a large tangle of wires and
> > the
> > > > control box for the musical horns and a wiring loom, all of it
> > was
> > > > just lying on top of the fans keeping them from operating. I
> > moved
> > > > everything out of the way and it is functioning fine.
> > > >
> > > > <snip>The wiring harnesses are not hooked up. I'm not sure if
> > all
> > > > of these pieces are related or are for different systems. I
> was
> > > > told the coach did not have an alarm system when I bought it
> > but
> > > > that appears to be wrong.
> > > >
> > > > If some one could tell what this stuff is I'd appreciate it.
> > I'm
> > > > hesitant to just plug everything in and wait to see what
> > happens.
> > > > The last thing I need is an unknown system shutting down the
> > coach
> > > > when least expected.
> > > >
> > > > Kurt Horvath, ( bumpersbird )
> > > > 95 PT-42 WLWB, ( Indulgance )
> > > > 10AC, ( Tennessee )
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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94 WLWB


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[Pete Masterson]

Well, keep in mind that the variations on the theme are almost
endless. Forward salon had dual sofas, sofa/chair cabinet, sofa/2
chairs with small cabinet and several other variations. Dining area
('95) mostly seems to be table with two 'loose' chairs, but it could
have been a booth or some other arrangement (if requested).
Appliances seem to have endless variations as well... My coach is all
electric -- a plus in that we have a full-size home-style
refrigerator. The electric cook top (120 volt, not 220) is a bit slow
to warm up. The downside is that boondocking is barely practical as
the refrigerator sucks the batteries down in about 6 hours. Next time
I need to stay off the grid (and not run the generator), I'm going to
pull the breakers on the inverters to see how much that extends the
battery life.

The basic layout you describe sounds rather like the top floor plan,
with a significant rework of the bathroom layout. But BB tended to do
a lot of 'custom' arrangements, when requested, and would do "mix and
match" of components when necessary. Frankly, the behind the
refrigerator shower is a tad small -- your bathroom sounds a little
more convenient. (I also think I've seen photos of a coach with a
similar bathroom somewhere in the past -- and it could have been a
layout used in 93 or 94...)

Depending on the year, BB had 'spec' coaches and custom built
coaches. The spec (speculation) models were built when they
(apparently) didn't have a firm order and/or to fill dealer stock --
I think my coach may have fallen into that category. It has fewer of
the deluxe options* than many other coaches. It may have been built
as a "low price" model (if a coach selling for around a half-million
dollars in 1995 was "low price"). Other coaches were more fully
loaded based on the customer's wishes. I think they also built one or
two "show" models with every possible option that were used for
promotional purposes before they were sold. So, there are a lot of
variations on the theme out there.

*I don't have a basement tv/entertainment system -- and as best I can
tell there never was one. Also, the power drapes are absent and there
is no aux. compressor -- or even a Microphor compressor. (Run the
engine to flush the toilet??) Previous owner had a Microphor
compressor installed and I carry a "contractor's compressor" with me
to air up the dump valves when I'm in a longer term RV park. I don't
miss the basement entertainment center nor the power drapes.

With all the custom arrangements, an unfortunate by product is that
the owners manual is a bit general or vague -- with no real
standardization, things tended to be in different places. And even
some basics (like the fittings for the shock absorbers*) seem to vary
from coach to coach even in the same model year.

*Henderson's Line Up commented that my shock absorber mount was
different than that used on another '95 that they'd recently serviced...

I don't have a basement tv/entertainment system -- and as best I can
tell there never was one. Also, the power drapes are absent and there
was no aux. compressor -- or even a Microphor compressor. (Run the
engine to flush the toilet??) Previous owner had a Microphor
compressor installed and I carry a "contractor's compressor" with me
to air up the dump valves when I'm in a longer term RV park. I don't
miss the basement entertainment center nor the power drapes.

I agree that the Splendide washer/dryer is a joke. Mine is in the
bottom half of a full-height linen cabinet next to a full height
closet. I plan one last effort to ensure that the Splendide is
working to its fullest capability before I simply remove it from the
coach to get the space it uses up for additional storage. I need to
(1) make sure that the air-operated vent cover is opening (it sounds
like it is) and (2) ensure that the vent line isn't clogged with
lint, etc. This is one of those lower-priority projects that I
haven't gotten around to yet. I have found that the dryer function is
helpful to give a finishing touch to sox that didn't get fully dry at
the laundromat... and little else.

Pete Masterson
'95 Blue Bird Wanderlodge WBDA 42
aeonix1@...
On the road at Lockhart, Tx



On Nov 23, 2007, at 8:56 PM, Kurt Horvath wrote:

> Pete,
>
> I looked at the brochures at Millercoachworks.com again. my
> interior is not there not even close.
> I have two sofas. The kichen is on the road side with an angled
> refer. The sink is near the sofa end and the 2 burner gas top stove
> is near the fridge the burners are side by side. Curb side table &
> 2 chairs. The bathroom has the sink up against the back of the
> angled fridge in a half round cabinet, then the commode,the 1/4
> round glass shower, all on the road side. The curb side bath starts
> at slide out pantry then there is a countertop about 4' long over a
> set cabinets a door with two shelves then three drawers, The
> armoire has a washer / dryer, what a waste of space, anybody want
> to buy it, Splendide 2000, on the left side. The right side you can
> hang clothes and has a laundry hamper. It has mirrors everywhere
> except in the shower. Very revealing. After this the bedroom is
> generic BB with the exception that it has no mirrors behind the
> Headboard, it has a real window.Headboard is on the roadside.
>
>
> Kurt Horvath
> 95 PT-42
> 10AC

[erniecarpet@...]

Dorn, a Splendide is a washer/dryer combo.

Ernie Ekberg
83PT40
Weatherford, Tx
--no washer/dryer in my coach



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