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11-29-2006, 11:05

Rosemary- your coach should start on the first lick- with little smoke. i
have had my block heater on for a week- temps in the zero range. I was going to
get fuel today- started the genny- took a while- as no block heater- but the
detroit fired right up on the first lick- no smoke. usually that engine will
make all kinds of pollution before she clears her throat and kicks in.

Ernie Ekberg
83PT40
Livingston, Montana

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11-29-2006, 15:22

Dumb question, how do I find out if this bird has one?
Rose Mary
82 FC Side Bath
cold in Nevada

11-29-2006, 15:43

Ernie
thanks found it and turned it on, don't know if it works but will
see how we start in the morning.
thanks much....
Rose Mary
82 fc
near Hawthorne Nevada

--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, erniecarpet@... wrote:
>
> RoseMary- not a dumb question at all. it is a red switch at the co-
pilots
> feet.
>
> Ernie Ekberg
> 83PT40
> Livingston, Montana
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

11-29-2006, 16:35

Ernie,
good to know, this morning when we got ready to leave Fallon after a
very cold and frosty windowed night it took several licks before
JP's White Bird caught (smoked like hell! and was rough for a
minute...)Always starts the first turn in moderate Oregon...
I wondered as I usually plug my diesel pick up in when it's cold,
glad to know about the red switch. It had slipped my mind as I never
ride...mom had asked me once and I was going to pour through the
books again but didn't get to it.
I love these sites and learning more about this beast Smile

I know why my brother liked his bird, wish he could have visited
these sites...

So I'm thinking when it is time to go, it will fire right up with
little smoke.

Rose Mary
82 FC
JP's White Bird
headed south
--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, erniecarpet@... wrote:
>
> Rosemary- your coach should start on the first lick- with little
smoke. i
> have had my block heater on for a week- temps in the zero range. I
was going to
> get fuel today- started the genny- took a while- as no block
heater- but the
> detroit fired right up on the first lick- no smoke. usually that
engine will
> make all kinds of pollution before she clears her throat and kicks
in.
>
> Ernie Ekberg
> 83PT40
> Livingston, Montana
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

11-30-2006, 01:00

Rose Mary,

Check this out on my web site, it will show you where the heater
itself is actually located and how to determine if it is working.

http://www.pbase.com/image/70997869

"REMEMBER SEPTEMBER 11, 2001"
John Finn
'82 35FCRB
BLUEBIRD WANDERLODGE
TO VISIT THE "FINN'S INN EXPRESS" REMODELING ADVENTURE
GO TO;
http://www.pbase.com/image/24977457
HOPKINS, SOUTH CAROLINA

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--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Rose Mary"
wrote:
>
> Ernie,
> good to know, this morning when we got ready to leave Fallon after
a
> very cold and frosty windowed night it took several licks before
> JP's White Bird caught (smoked like hell! and was rough for a
> minute...)Always starts the first turn in moderate Oregon...
> I wondered as I usually plug my diesel pick up in when it's cold,
> glad to know about the red switch. It had slipped my mind as I
never
> ride...mom had asked me once and I was going to pour through the
> books again but didn't get to it.
> I love these sites and learning more about this beast Smile

> I know why my brother liked his bird, wish he could have visited
> these sites...
>
> So I'm thinking when it is time to go, it will fire right up with
> little smoke.
>
> Rose Mary
> 82 FC
> JP's White Bird
> headed south
> --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, erniecarpet@ wrote:
> >
> > Rosemary- your coach should start on the first lick- with little
> smoke. i
> > have had my block heater on for a week- temps in the zero range.
I
> was going to
> > get fuel today- started the genny- took a while- as no block
> heater- but the
> > detroit fired right up on the first lick- no smoke. usually that
> engine will
> > make all kinds of pollution before she clears her throat and
kicks
> in.
> >
> > Ernie Ekberg
> > 83PT40
> > Livingston, Montana
> >
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
>

11-30-2006, 04:15

John
thanks for the good info, when I go out brrr I'll see if it's warm,
didn't know the red switch was supposed to glo, it flickers
occasionally now that I look at it, is the block heater propane?
Haven't tried to start yet, we're lazing this morning.
Thanks for the good information!
Rose Mary
82 FC
JP's White Bird
sunny cold Nevada

--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "John"
wrote:
>
> Rose Mary,
>
> Check this out on my web site, it will show you where the heater
> itself is actually located and how to determine if it is working.
>
> http://www.pbase.com/image/70997869
>
>
> "REMEMBER SEPTEMBER 11, 2001"
> John Finn
> '82 35FCRB
> BLUEBIRD WANDERLODGE
> TO VISIT THE "FINN'S INN EXPRESS" REMODELING ADVENTURE
> GO TO;
> http://www.pbase.com/image/24977457
> HOPKINS, SOUTH CAROLINA
>
> //////////////////////////////////////////////////
>
> --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Rose Mary"
> wrote:
> >
> > Ernie,
> > good to know, this morning when we got ready to leave Fallon
after
> a
> > very cold and frosty windowed night it took several licks before
> > JP's White Bird caught (smoked like hell! and was rough for a
> > minute...)Always starts the first turn in moderate Oregon...
> > I wondered as I usually plug my diesel pick up in when it's
cold,
> > glad to know about the red switch. It had slipped my mind as I
> never
> > ride...mom had asked me once and I was going to pour through the
> > books again but didn't get to it.
> > I love these sites and learning more about this beast Smile

> > I know why my brother liked his bird, wish he could have visited
> > these sites...
> >
> > So I'm thinking when it is time to go, it will fire right up
with
> > little smoke.
> >
> > Rose Mary
> > 82 FC
> > JP's White Bird
> > headed south
> > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, erniecarpet@ wrote:
> > >
> > > Rosemary- your coach should start on the first lick- with
little
> > smoke. i
> > > have had my block heater on for a week- temps in the zero
range.
> I
> > was going to
> > > get fuel today- started the genny- took a while- as no block
> > heater- but the
> > > detroit fired right up on the first lick- no smoke. usually
that
> > engine will
> > > make all kinds of pollution before she clears her throat and
> kicks
> > in.
> > >
> > > Ernie Ekberg
> > > 83PT40
> > > Livingston, Montana
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > >
> >
>

11-30-2006, 05:59

The block heater is electric, so it only works if you are plugged
into shore power, or have the genset running.

The flickering red pilot light could be just the pilot light going
out, or a possible loose connection. The feel test on the actual
heater will tell for sure if it is working, mine gets very warm,
almost hot, so be careful, just put your hand about an inch away from
it to see if there is any heat radiating from it first, we don't get
the really cold tmperatures here in South Carolina, so that also may
be why mine feels hot, but it is heating up the coolant and it does
deffinetly help when starting the engine, a lot less smoke, from my
3208NA CAT.....GARFIELD.

"REMEMBER SEPTEMBER 11, 2001"
John Finn
'82 35FCRB
BLUEBIRD WANDERLODGE
TO VISIT THE "FINN'S INN EXPRESS" REMODELING ADVENTURE
GO TO;
http://www.pbase.com/image/24977457
HOPKINS, SOUTH CAROLINA

/////////////////////////////////////////////////////////

--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Rose Mary"
wrote:
>
> John
> thanks for the good info, when I go out brrr I'll see if it's warm,
> didn't know the red switch was supposed to glo, it flickers
> occasionally now that I look at it, is the block heater propane?
> Haven't tried to start yet, we're lazing this morning.
> Thanks for the good information!
> Rose Mary
> 82 FC
> JP's White Bird
> sunny cold Nevada
>
>
> --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "John"
> wrote:
> >
> > Rose Mary,
> >
> > Check this out on my web site, it will show you where the heater
> > itself is actually located and how to determine if it is working.
> >
> > http://www.pbase.com/image/70997869
> >
> >
> > "REMEMBER SEPTEMBER 11, 2001"
> > John Finn
> > '82 35FCRB
> > BLUEBIRD WANDERLODGE
> > TO VISIT THE "FINN'S INN EXPRESS" REMODELING ADVENTURE
> > GO TO;
> > http://www.pbase.com/image/24977457
> > HOPKINS, SOUTH CAROLINA
> >
>

02-12-2008, 13:31

Hello:

Curiosity time on my part on block heaters. I was under the impression that
most block heaters were inserted where a freeze plug was removed and that
the freeze plugs were in the water jackets or in the coolant traces in an
engine. That being the case, then I don't see how it could burn oil in
anyway, since the oil would be warmed like using a double boiler pan on a
stove to melt chocolate and not scorch the candy. The water in the engine
gets warm, thus warming the block and oil.

I am not that up on engines, save for the work I have done on mine over the
years, but I have never installed engine bloc heaters.

Can anyone clear that one up for me please?

Safe travels,

Ralph and Charolette Fullenwider
84FC35 "Ruff Diamond"
Duncan, Oklahoma

>

02-12-2008, 14:27

Ralph,

I think term "block heater" on my old Newell was a misnomer. It was an electric-element contact heater placed on the side of the oilpan. Mine had no pump and was not near the freeze plug. You're right about a true block heater. It's different.

Brad Barton 00LXiDFW
bbartonwx@...

To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
From: rlf47@...
Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2008 19:31:17 -0600
Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] RE: Block Heater

Hello:

Curiosity time on my part on block heaters. I was under the impression that
most block heaters were inserted where a freeze plug was removed and that
the freeze plugs were in the water jackets or in the coolant traces in an
engine. That being the case, then I don't see how it could burn oil in
anyway, since the oil would be warmed like using a double boiler pan on a
stove to melt chocolate and not scorch the candy. The water in the engine
gets warm, thus warming the block and oil.

I am not that up on engines, save for the work I have done on mine over the
years, but I have never installed engine bloc heaters.

Can anyone clear that one up for me please?

Safe travels,

Ralph and Charolette Fullenwider
84FC35 "Ruff Diamond"
Duncan, Oklahoma

>

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02-12-2008, 18:08

Your impression is correct Ralph. There are two such heaters. On my Detroit 8V71, it is a true block heater, that warms the coolant, and then on and on from there. While in Mass. andAlaska I ran across the engine oil heaters, that heated the oil in the pan, thus making the engine easier to start. Both work great in cold climates, don't have much use for them in N.C. We used to keep a Allis Chalmers dozer outside, ( oil pan heater ) , plugged in24/7 at Tin City AFS, Ak., during the longwinter months. It fired up right away, even when it was 50 below, "if you were dumb enough to go out there". That was 38 yrs. ago, and I have not warmed up yet. Regards, George Burke 1977FC 31 Charlotte

On Feb 12, 2008 8:31 PM, Ralph L. Fullenwider <"rlf47@swbell.net"> wrote:

Hello:

Curiosity time on my part on block heaters. I was under the impression that
most block heaters were inserted where a freeze plug was removed and that
the freeze plugs were in the water jackets or in the coolant traces in an

engine. That being the case, then I don't see how it could burn oil in
anyway, since the oil would be warmed like using a double boiler pan on a
stove to melt chocolate and not scorch the candy. The water in the engine

gets warm, thus warming the block and oil.

I am not that up on engines, save for the work I have done on mine over the
years, but I have never installed engine bloc heaters.

Can anyone clear that one up for me please?

Safe travels,

Ralph and Charolette Fullenwider
84FC35 "Ruff Diamond"
Duncan, Oklahoma

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