Experience w/ B20 Bio-diesel in 8V92

[ronmarabito2002]

Anyone in the group have experience with B20 Bio-diesel in a 8V92?

Like to have some input, such as filter clogging, mileage and power
changes, current cost, etc.

R.E. (Ron) Marabito, Dallas, TX 92WB40

[Mike Hohnstein]

Rule of thumb, have fuel filters on board and be efficient at changing them. Bio likes to stir things up. It's a good idea to have all teflon lined flex fuel lines too. Bio likes to wax up around 50 degrees too, not for winter use.

MH

----- Original Message -----

From: "remarabito@att.net"

To: "WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com"

Sent: Sunday, May 11, 2008 1:31 PM

Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Experience w/ B20 Bio-diesel in 8V92

Anyone in the group have experience with B20 Bio-diesel in a 8V92?

Like to have some input, such as filter clogging, mileage and power
changes, current cost, etc.

R.E. (Ron) Marabito, Dallas, TX 92WB40

[Al]

B20 will give the similiar performance as petro diesel. I run B100
year round and don't have waxing problems. Of course, when it gets
down to 30 degrees or less, I go to about B90. With that said, I do
live in the deep South and we only have a day or two of cold
weather. If I lived in the north, I would drop my percentage more to
insure I had no problem. Easiest way to see, is to keep a pint jar
of your B20 in a unheated bay and that way you can tell at a glance
what is going on with your fuel. B20 mixture will start to wax or
gel at a slightly higher temp then straight petro. The biggest word
of advice, is try to maintain percentage so that you are not
shrinking and expanding your seals. Also 1% biodiesel will increase
the lubrication of your motor by 30% so no more additives are needed.

Al Johnson
'96 BMC B100
Mandeville, Louisiana

--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Mike Hohnstein"
<MHOHNSTEIN@...> wrote:
>
> Rule of thumb, have fuel filters on board and be efficient at
changing them. Bio likes to stir things up. It's a good idea to
have all teflon lined flex fuel lines too. Bio likes to wax up
around 50 degrees too, not for winter use.
> MH
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: ronmarabito2002
> To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Sunday, May 11, 2008 1:31 PM
> Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Experience w/ B20 Bio-diesel in 8V92
>
>
> Anyone in the group have experience with B20 Bio-diesel in a 8V92?
>
> Like to have some input, such as filter clogging, mileage and
power
> changes, current cost, etc.
>
> R.E. (Ron) Marabito, Dallas, TX 92WB40
>

[ronmarabito2002]

Thanks Mike. The website that I visited on Bio seem to indicate that
fuel lines for B20 were not a problem, but was over that mix.

R.E. (Ron) Marabito, Dallas, tX 92WB40

--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Mike Hohnstein"
<MHOHNSTEIN@...> wrote:
>
> Rule of thumb, have fuel filters on board and be efficient at
changing them. Bio likes to stir things up. It's a good idea to have
all teflon lined flex fuel lines too. Bio likes to wax up around 50
degrees too, not for winter use.
> MH
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: ronmarabito2002
> To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Sunday, May 11, 2008 1:31 PM
> Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Experience w/ B20 Bio-diesel in 8V92
>
>
> Anyone in the group have experience with B20 Bio-diesel in a 8V92?
>
> Like to have some input, such as filter clogging, mileage and power
> changes, current cost, etc.
>
> R.E. (Ron) Marabito, Dallas, TX 92WB40
>

[ronmarabito2002]

What is your experience with the fuel lines? Any reason to change
with a B20 mix?

I know that you produce your own. What's the going price at retail
outlets?

R.E. (Ron) Marabito, Dallas, TX 92WB40


--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Al" wrote:
>
> B20 will give the similiar performance as petro diesel. I run B100
> year round and don't have waxing problems. Of course, when it gets
> down to 30 degrees or less, I go to about B90. With that said, I do
> live in the deep South and we only have a day or two of cold
> weather. If I lived in the north, I would drop my percentage more to
> insure I had no problem. Easiest way to see, is to keep a pint jar
> of your B20 in a unheated bay and that way you can tell at a glance
> what is going on with your fuel. B20 mixture will start to wax or
> gel at a slightly higher temp then straight petro. The biggest word
> of advice, is try to maintain percentage so that you are not
> shrinking and expanding your seals. Also 1% biodiesel will increase
> the lubrication of your motor by 30% so no more additives are needed.
>
> Al Johnson
> '96 BMC B100
> Mandeville, Louisiana
>
> --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Mike Hohnstein"
> <MHOHNSTEIN@> wrote:
> >
> > Rule of thumb, have fuel filters on board and be efficient at
> changing them. Bio likes to stir things up. It's a good idea to
> have all teflon lined flex fuel lines too. Bio likes to wax up
> around 50 degrees too, not for winter use.
> > MH
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: ronmarabito2002
> > To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
> > Sent: Sunday, May 11, 2008 1:31 PM
> > Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Experience w/ B20 Bio-diesel in 8V92
> >
> >
> > Anyone in the group have experience with B20 Bio-diesel in a 8V92?
> >
> > Like to have some input, such as filter clogging, mileage and
> power
> > changes, current cost, etc.
> >
> > R.E. (Ron) Marabito, Dallas, TX 92WB40
> >
>

[Al]

Fuel lines will start to weep slowly till they have to be replaced.
I was told my fuel lines were not fuel lines but instead water
lines. Did not have to replace main engine line ( cummins to fuel
tank ). Had to replace line from generator and aquahot to fuel
tank. I am running B100 so the lines will fail faster till they are
replaced with todays fuel line. I would expect the B20 blend to make
your lines fail as well but take a longer period of time. Your the
cutover to viton fuel lines started around 1993. So I would tell you
to expect the replacement possibility but it will not fail
overnight. You will get plenty of notice before failure of the fuel
line. As far as retail price, Biodiesel will compete with Petro
Diesel but don't expect it to be much lower than. In most cases, it
is a premium to Petro Diesel.

Al Johnson
'96 BMC B100
Mandeville, Louisiana

--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "ronmarabito2002"
wrote:
>
> What is your experience with the fuel lines? Any reason to change
> with a B20 mix?
>
> I know that you produce your own. What's the going price at retail
> outlets?
>
> R.E. (Ron) Marabito, Dallas, TX 92WB40
>
>
> --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Al" wrote:
> >
> > B20 will give the similiar performance as petro diesel. I run
B100
> > year round and don't have waxing problems. Of course, when it
gets
> > down to 30 degrees or less, I go to about B90. With that said, I
do
> > live in the deep South and we only have a day or two of cold
> > weather. If I lived in the north, I would drop my percentage
more to
> > insure I had no problem. Easiest way to see, is to keep a pint
jar
> > of your B20 in a unheated bay and that way you can tell at a
glance
> > what is going on with your fuel. B20 mixture will start to wax
or
> > gel at a slightly higher temp then straight petro. The biggest
word
> > of advice, is try to maintain percentage so that you are not
> > shrinking and expanding your seals. Also 1% biodiesel will
increase
> > the lubrication of your motor by 30% so no more additives are
needed.
> >
> > Al Johnson
> > '96 BMC B100
> > Mandeville, Louisiana
> >
> > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Mike Hohnstein"
> > <MHOHNSTEIN@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Rule of thumb, have fuel filters on board and be efficient at
> > changing them. Bio likes to stir things up. It's a good idea to
> > have all teflon lined flex fuel lines too. Bio likes to wax up
> > around 50 degrees too, not for winter use.
> > > MH
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: ronmarabito2002
> > > To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
> > > Sent: Sunday, May 11, 2008 1:31 PM
> > > Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Experience w/ B20 Bio-diesel in
8V92
> > >
> > >
> > > Anyone in the group have experience with B20 Bio-diesel in a
8V92?
> > >
> > > Like to have some input, such as filter clogging, mileage and
> > power
> > > changes, current cost, etc.
> > >
> > > R.E. (Ron) Marabito, Dallas, TX 92WB40
> > >
> >
>

[ronmarabito2002]

Thanks Al.

R.E. (Ron) Marabito, Dallas, tX 92WB40

--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Al" wrote:
>
> Fuel lines will start to weep slowly till they have to be replaced.
> I was told my fuel lines were not fuel lines but instead water
> lines. Did not have to replace main engine line ( cummins to fuel
> tank ). Had to replace line from generator and aquahot to fuel
> tank. I am running B100 so the lines will fail faster till they are
> replaced with todays fuel line. I would expect the B20 blend to make
> your lines fail as well but take a longer period of time. Your the
> cutover to viton fuel lines started around 1993. So I would tell you
> to expect the replacement possibility but it will not fail
> overnight. You will get plenty of notice before failure of the fuel
> line. As far as retail price, Biodiesel will compete with Petro
> Diesel but don't expect it to be much lower than. In most cases, it
> is a premium to Petro Diesel.
>
> Al Johnson
> '96 BMC B100
> Mandeville, Louisiana
>
> --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "ronmarabito2002"
> wrote:
> >
> > What is your experience with the fuel lines? Any reason to change
> > with a B20 mix?
> >
> > I know that you produce your own. What's the going price at retail
> > outlets?
> >
> > R.E. (Ron) Marabito, Dallas, TX 92WB40
> >
> >
> > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Al" wrote:
> > >
> > > B20 will give the similiar performance as petro diesel. I run
> B100
> > > year round and don't have waxing problems. Of course, when it
> gets
> > > down to 30 degrees or less, I go to about B90. With that said, I
> do
> > > live in the deep South and we only have a day or two of cold
> > > weather. If I lived in the north, I would drop my percentage
> more to
> > > insure I had no problem. Easiest way to see, is to keep a pint
> jar
> > > of your B20 in a unheated bay and that way you can tell at a
> glance
> > > what is going on with your fuel. B20 mixture will start to wax
> or
> > > gel at a slightly higher temp then straight petro. The biggest
> word
> > > of advice, is try to maintain percentage so that you are not
> > > shrinking and expanding your seals. Also 1% biodiesel will
> increase
> > > the lubrication of your motor by 30% so no more additives are
> needed.
> > >
> > > Al Johnson
> > > '96 BMC B100
> > > Mandeville, Louisiana
> > >
> > > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Mike Hohnstein"
> > > <MHOHNSTEIN@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Rule of thumb, have fuel filters on board and be efficient at
> > > changing them. Bio likes to stir things up. It's a good idea to
> > > have all teflon lined flex fuel lines too. Bio likes to wax up
> > > around 50 degrees too, not for winter use.
> > > > MH
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: ronmarabito2002
> > > > To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
> > > > Sent: Sunday, May 11, 2008 1:31 PM
> > > > Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Experience w/ B20 Bio-diesel in
> 8V92
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Anyone in the group have experience with B20 Bio-diesel in a
> 8V92?
> > > >
> > > > Like to have some input, such as filter clogging, mileage and
> > > power
> > > > changes, current cost, etc.
> > > >
> > > > R.E. (Ron) Marabito, Dallas, TX 92WB40
> > > >
> > >
> >
>