Proper way to tow a Wanderlodge

[timvasqz]

not important on the pt because there is no carrier in the drive line
but in FC it is a good Idea to mark the ujoint and spline for
reattachment of the drive line.
Greg

[Scott Forman]

CoachNet has helped me more than once. Once included a tow when I
blew a retarder hose. Another included a blow out last fall. In
both instances they did exactly what I needed, even using the tow
company I requested and taking the coach where I asked (I was close
to home). I recommend them highly.

Scott Forman
86 PT38
Memphis

--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "timvasqz" wrote:
>
> Ernie do you like coachnet? I just got an offer from them to
> administrate a club discount which seemed real good so I went to
> their site to check it out and see if any other club was offered a
> discount. The discount stood true until I tried to buy it at full
> price and was not able to. Kind makes me wonder what game is
played
> in time of need. I may be too synical?
>
> Greg of Tim&Greg
> 94ptCa
>
> --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, Ernie Ekberg
> wrote:
> >
> > "take out wallet"- or just purchase Coachnet service for a little
> over a hundred bucks a year.
> >
> >
> > Ernie Ekberg
> > 83PT40
> > Wanderlodge
> > Weatherford, Tx
> > http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/erni...gandrepair
> >
> > --- On Sun, 3/1/09, Stephen Birtles wrote:
> >
> > From: Stephen Birtles
> > Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: Proper way to tow a Wanderlodge
> > To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
> > Date: Sunday, March 1, 2009, 10:50 AM
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > real big truck with a wheel lift or stinger be sure to tell them
it
> > has a 5 foot setback front axle and weighs 40,000 lbs
> > disconnect drive shaft OR pull rear drive axles Drive shaft is
> cleaner
> > but is Necessary to climb under coach to disconnect drive shaft
> >
> > TAKE APPROPRIATE PRECAUTIONS OR SOMEONE WILL DIE
> >
> > take out wallet
> > leave credit card with driver
> >
> > Stephen 77fc35
> >
> > --- In WanderlodgeForum@ yahoogroups. com, "jburgessx2"
>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > Just to satisy my curiosity, I would like to know the proper
way
> to tow
> > > my 85 PT40. I don't plan on having it towed but it would be
nice
> to
> > > know if the situation arises - it never hurts to plan ahead.
And,
> > > sometimes the tow truck folks don't know or think they know and
> they
> > > are wrong.
> > >
> > > Thanks.
> > >
> > > Jerry
> > > 85 PT40
> > > Port Hueneme, CA
> > >
> >
>

[Don Bradner]

I have used Coachnet 4 times in 7 years (not yet with a Bird). Two tows and one
mud-pullout, plus one service recommendation.

Easily worth the fees they've collected from me.

Don Bradner
90 PT40 "Blue Thunder"
My location: http://www.bbirdmaps.com/user2.cfm?user=1

On 3/1/2009 at 9:28 PM Scott Forman wrote:

>CoachNet has helped me more than once. Once included a tow when I
>blew a retarder hose. Another included a blow out last fall. In
>both instances they did exactly what I needed, even using the tow
>company I requested and taking the coach where I asked (I was close
>to home). I recommend them highly.
>
>Scott Forman
>86 PT38
>Memphis
>
>--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "timvasqz" >wrote:
>>
>> Ernie do you like coachnet? I just got an offer from them to
>> administrate a club discount which seemed real good so I went to
>> their site to check it out and see if any other club was offered a
>> discount. The discount stood true until I tried to buy it at full
>> price and was not able to. Kind makes me wonder what game is
>played
>> in time of need. I may be too synical?
>>
>> Greg of Tim&Greg
>> 94ptCa
>>
>> --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, Ernie Ekberg
>> wrote:
>> >
>> > "take out wallet"- or just purchase Coachnet service for a little
>> over a hundred bucks a year.
>> >
>> >
>> > Ernie Ekberg
>> > 83PT40
>> > Wanderlodge
>> > Weatherford, Tx
>> > http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/erni...gandrepair
>> >
>> > --- On Sun, 3/1/09, Stephen Birtles wrote:
>> >
>> > From: Stephen Birtles
>> > Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: Proper way to tow a Wanderlodge
>> > To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
>> > Date: Sunday, March 1, 2009, 10:50 AM
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > real big truck with a wheel lift or stinger be sure to tell them
>it
>> > has a 5 foot setback front axle and weighs 40,000 lbs
>> > disconnect drive shaft OR pull rear drive axles Drive shaft is
>> cleaner
>> > but is Necessary to climb under coach to disconnect drive shaft
>> >
>> > TAKE APPROPRIATE PRECAUTIONS OR SOMEONE WILL DIE
>> >
>> > take out wallet
>> > leave credit card with driver
>> >
>> > Stephen 77fc35
>> >
>> > --- In WanderlodgeForum@ yahoogroups. com, "jburgessx2"
>>
>> > wrote:
>> > >
>> > > Just to satisy my curiosity, I would like to know the proper
>way
>> to tow
>> > > my 85 PT40. I don't plan on having it towed but it would be
>nice
>> to
>> > > know if the situation arises - it never hurts to plan ahead.
>And,
>> > > sometimes the tow truck folks don't know or think they know and
>> they
>> > > are wrong.
>> > >
>> > > Thanks.
>> > >
>> > > Jerry
>> > > 85 PT40
>> > > Port Hueneme, CA
>> > >
>> >
>>
>
>
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[david edwards]

Don't know about the other models, but on an FC, if you can idle the engine and keep the transmission fluid circulating, there's no need to pull the driveshaft or axle. Kerry 82 FC Denver

[Pete Masterson]

There are two primary Emergency Road Service providers that specialize in RVs. Coach Net and Good Sam ERS. Coach Net can be purchased as a modest discount through FMCA (Family Motor Coach Association -- must be a member) and they may have other discount plans. While the web site may have seemed misleading, that may simply be a poorly constructed web site (there are a LOT of web sites that have problems, minor and major). Good Sam ERS requires that you be a Good Sam member -- but that's not too expensive. (At the bottom line, both services are competitive in price counting the memberships, etc. that you may need to have.)

Coach Net generally has an excellent reputation for service. Likewise, Good Sam ERS also has a generally positive reputation. That's not to say that both entities have had their share of unhappy clients. Both services charge about $100 per year, more or less, for coverage -- although Coach Net may be a little more expensive if you don't/can't get it through a discount program.

I've had Good Sam ERS for 3+ years. I've had 3 calls for service -- dead coach (ground loose), leaking fuel tank (after an "incident"), and a tire blow out on the tag axle.

In all three cases, the contract service providers arrived in a reasonable time (well, the tire-guy was slow, but I was warned up front that there was a backlog that day in that area). All performed reasonably well (that is, the stuff needed got fixed). But the important thing to note is the it's the "contract service provider" who actually performs the service. The ERS simply dispatches local contractors. Coach Net offers "technical consulting" (more so than GS) which might get you underway again without having to wait for a service provider.

Most liability insurance policies have a low-cost or "included" (varies by state) road service clause. These require payment up front and reimbursement by the insurance company. However, you're on your own to get service -- and that's the key to the ERS companies -- they have the service providers set up already (almost) anywhere you could be. Note that if you have ERS you can't also claim against your liability policy unless there are out-of-pocked expenses you had that were not covered by the ERS service -- that's called "coordination of benefits" as explained in your policy.

Finally, AAA road service is usually a poor choice for an RV, especially for an RV in the Wanderlodge class. RV service an add-on (extra cost) to the basic AAA road service -- but AAA regularly dispatches inappropriate equipment and it's unlikely that the tow truck operator or service technician will have a clue about an RV. AAA RV coverage also has a lot of limits that end up leaving you to pick up a lot of the cost if you must be towed. For the record, my cars are insured through CSAA (California) and I have AAA ERS as part of the insurance coverage package. I do not have the AAA RV extension. I recommend AAA ERS for those who have automobiles or light trucks (but generally not for RVs).

Pete Masterson

'95 Blue Bird Wanderlodge WBDA 42 (For Sale)

<http://www.aeonix.biz/BBforsale.html>

El Sobrante CA

"aeonix1@mac.com"

On Mar 1, 2009, at 1:09 PM, timvasqz wrote:

Ernie do you like coachnet? I just got an offer from them to
administrate a club discount which seemed real good so I went to
their site to check it out and see if any other club was offered a
discount. The discount stood true until I tried to buy it at full
price and was not able to. Kind makes me wonder what game is played
in time of need. I may be too synical?

Greg of Tim&Greg
94ptCa

--- In "WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com", Ernie Ekberg
wrote:

"take out wallet"- or just purchase Coachnet service for a little

over a hundred bucks a year.

Ernie Ekberg

83PT40

Wanderlodge

Weatherford, Tx

http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/erni...gandrepair

--- On Sun, 3/1/09, Stephen Birtles wrote:

From: Stephen Birtles

Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: Proper way to tow a Wanderlodge

To: "WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com"

Date: Sunday, March 1, 2009, 10:50 AM

real big truck with a wheel lift or stinger be sure to tell them it

has a 5 foot setback front axle and weighs 40,000 lbs

disconnect drive shaft OR pull rear drive axles Drive shaft is

cleaner

but is Necessary to climb under coach to disconnect drive shaft

TAKE APPROPRIATE PRECAUTIONS OR SOMEONE WILL DIE

take out wallet

leave credit card with driver

Stephen 77fc35

--- In WanderlodgeForum@ yahoogroups. com, "jburgessx2"

wrote:

Just to satisy my curiosity, I would like to know the proper way

to tow

my 85 PT40. I don't plan on having it towed but it would be nice

to

know if the situation arises - it never hurts to plan ahead. And,

sometimes the tow truck folks don't know or think they know and

they

are wrong.

Thanks.

Jerry

85 PT40

Port Hueneme, CA

[Scott Forman]

Jerry,

Had my PT towed about 18 months ago. It requires removing the
driveshaft and, of course, an air line to the brakes to keep the
parking brakes released.

Another tip...the crossbar that crosses under the generator
compartment needs to be removed or it will be bent by the boom for
the wheel lift. When I got my coach, this crossmember was bowed up,
and I always wondered why. I figured it out when I had the tow and
saw the lift boom slide right into that "nook". It creates no problem
to have it bent, but removing it is probably the right way to go.

Scott Forman
86 PT38
Memphis

--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "jburgessx2"
wrote:
>
> Just to satisy my curiosity, I would like to know the proper way to
tow
> my 85 PT40. I don't plan on having it towed but it would be nice
to
> know if the situation arises - it never hurts to plan ahead. And,
> sometimes the tow truck folks don't know or think they know and
they
> are wrong.
>
> Thanks.
>
> Jerry
> 85 PT40
> Port Hueneme, CA
>

[timvasqz]

Thanks Pete.
The marketing end just seemed to cloud my judgement of the service
end. if you try and sign on thru any affiliation on their site the
only membership number they ask you for is your Visa or Mastercard
membership number (talk about dues). the sales consultant barked
that the offer was exclusive.
Greg ofTim&Greg
94ptCa


--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, Pete Masterson
wrote:
>
> There are two primary Emergency Road Service providers that
specialize
> in RVs. Coach Net and Good Sam ERS. Coach Net can be purchased as
a
> modest discount through FMCA (Family Motor Coach Association --
must
> be a member) and they may have other discount plans. While the web
> site may have seemed misleading, that may simply be a poorly
> constructed web site (there are a LOT of web sites that have
problems,
> minor and major). Good Sam ERS requires that you be a Good Sam
member
> -- but that's not too expensive. (At the bottom line, both
services
> are competitive in price counting the memberships, etc. that you
may
> need to have.)
>
> Coach Net generally has an excellent reputation for service.
Likewise,
> Good Sam ERS also has a generally positive reputation. That's not
to
> say that both entities have had their share of unhappy clients.
Both
> services charge about $100 per year, more or less, for coverage --
> although Coach Net may be a little more expensive if you
don't/can't
> get it through a discount program.
>
> I've had Good Sam ERS for 3+ years. I've had 3 calls for service --

> dead coach (ground loose), leaking fuel tank (after
an "incident"),
> and a tire blow out on the tag axle.
>
> In all three cases, the contract service providers arrived in a
> reasonable time (well, the tire-guy was slow, but I was warned up
> front that there was a backlog that day in that area). All
performed
> reasonably well (that is, the stuff needed got fixed). But the
> important thing to note is the it's the "contract service
provider"
> who actually performs the service. The ERS simply dispatches local
> contractors. Coach Net offers "technical consulting" (more so than
GS)
> which might get you underway again without having to wait for a
> service provider.
>
> Most liability insurance policies have a low-cost or
> "included" (varies by state) road service clause. These require
> payment up front and reimbursement by the insurance company.
However,
> you're on your own to get service -- and that's the key to the ERS
> companies -- they have the service providers set up already
(almost)
> anywhere you could be. Note that if you have ERS you can't also
claim
> against your liability policy unless there are out-of-pocked
expenses
> you had that were not covered by the ERS service -- that's called
> "coordination of benefits" as explained in your policy.
>
> Finally, AAA road service is usually a poor choice for an RV,
> especially for an RV in the Wanderlodge class. RV service an add-
on
> (extra cost) to the basic AAA road service -- but AAA regularly
> dispatches inappropriate equipment and it's unlikely that the tow
> truck operator or service technician will have a clue about an RV.
AAA
> RV coverage also has a lot of limits that end up leaving you to
pick
> up a lot of the cost if you must be towed. For the record, my cars
are
> insured through CSAA (California) and I have AAA ERS as part of
the
> insurance coverage package. I do not have the AAA RV extension. I
> recommend AAA ERS for those who have automobiles or light trucks
(but
> generally not for RVs).
>
> Pete Masterson
> '95 Blue Bird Wanderlodge WBDA 42 (For Sale)
> <http://www.aeonix.biz/BBforsale.html>
> El Sobrante CA
> aeonix1@...
>
>
>
>
> On Mar 1, 2009, at 1:09 PM, timvasqz wrote:
>
> > Ernie do you like coachnet? I just got an offer from them to
> > administrate a club discount which seemed real good so I went to
> > their site to check it out and see if any other club was offered a
> > discount. The discount stood true until I tried to buy it at full
> > price and was not able to. Kind makes me wonder what game is
played
> > in time of need. I may be too synical?
> >
> > Greg of Tim&Greg
> > 94ptCa
> >
> > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, Ernie Ekberg
> > wrote:
> >>
> >> "take out wallet"- or just purchase Coachnet service for a little
> > over a hundred bucks a year.
> >>
> >>
> >> Ernie Ekberg
> >> 83PT40
> >> Wanderlodge
> >> Weatherford, Tx
> >> http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/erni...gandrepair
> >>
> >> --- On Sun, 3/1/09, Stephen Birtles wrote:
> >>
> >> From: Stephen Birtles
> >> Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: Proper way to tow a Wanderlodge
> >> To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
> >> Date: Sunday, March 1, 2009, 10:50 AM
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> real big truck with a wheel lift or stinger be sure to tell them
it
> >> has a 5 foot setback front axle and weighs 40,000 lbs
> >> disconnect drive shaft OR pull rear drive axles Drive shaft is
> > cleaner
> >> but is Necessary to climb under coach to disconnect drive shaft
> >>
> >> TAKE APPROPRIATE PRECAUTIONS OR SOMEONE WILL DIE
> >>
> >> take out wallet
> >> leave credit card with driver
> >>
> >> Stephen 77fc35
> >>
> >> --- In WanderlodgeForum@ yahoogroups. com, "jburgessx2"
> >
> >> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Just to satisy my curiosity, I would like to know the proper way
> > to tow
> >>> my 85 PT40. I don't plan on having it towed but it would be nice
> > to
> >>> know if the situation arises - it never hurts to plan ahead.
And,
> >>> sometimes the tow truck folks don't know or think they know and
> > they
> >>> are wrong.
> >>>
> >>> Thanks.
> >>>
> >>> Jerry
> >>> 85 PT40
> >>> Port Hueneme, CA
> >>>
> >>
>

[Jean Eichenlaub]

The five foot setback is critical. Goes on a lowboy also. Good Sam road service is a necessity. Jean Eichenlaub '87 FC 35'

[jburgessx2]

Scott,

Thanks. Seems like the opinions vary a great deal. I thought it
would be important to know this just in case. And, knowing I need to
remove the crossbar is important as well. I assume removing the
crossbar isn't going to allow the tow gear from crushing the
generator.

Jerry
85 PT40
Port Hueneme, CA

--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Scott Forman"
<scottforman75@...> wrote:
>
> Jerry,
>
> Had my PT towed about 18 months ago. It requires removing the
> driveshaft and, of course, an air line to the brakes to keep the
> parking brakes released.
>
> Another tip...the crossbar that crosses under the generator
> compartment needs to be removed or it will be bent by the boom for
> the wheel lift. When I got my coach, this crossmember was bowed
up,
> and I always wondered why. I figured it out when I had the tow and
> saw the lift boom slide right into that "nook". It creates no
problem
> to have it bent, but removing it is probably the right way to go.
>
> Scott Forman
> 86 PT38
> Memphis
>
> --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "jburgessx2"
> wrote:
> >
> > Just to satisy my curiosity, I would like to know the proper way
to
> tow
> > my 85 PT40. I don't plan on having it towed but it would be nice
> to
> > know if the situation arises - it never hurts to plan ahead.
And,
> > sometimes the tow truck folks don't know or think they know and
> they
> > are wrong.
> >
> > Thanks.
> >
> > Jerry
> > 85 PT40
> > Port Hueneme, CA
> >
>

[Wayne Kotila]

Disconnect the drive shaft from the pumpkin, and have a semi tractor tow truck using extensions, lift the front axle off the ground.

Wayne

85/pt40

---

From: jburgessx2
To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, March 1, 2009 10:13:47 AM
Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Proper way to tow a Wanderlodge

Just to satisy my curiosity, I would like to know the proper way to tow
my 85 PT40. I don't plan on having it towed but it would be nice to
know if the situation arises - it never hurts to plan ahead. And,
sometimes the tow truck folks don't know or think they know and they
are wrong.

Thanks.

Jerry
85 PT40
Port Hueneme, CA