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Your Reply to Another One Gone
05-03-2009, 03:26
Post: #11
ronmarabito2002
Unregistered
 		 
Your Reply to Another One Gone
Curt: I know that Ernie is in no position to fund anything like this, nor am I,
but Wanderlodge Owners all around this country could probably fund it through
donations.

I for one, think a database such as this would be wonderful for individuals to
access as well as organizations. I also don't think the world will end if we
don't have it since our primary role here is to help people keep their coaches
running and traveling. They either take advantage of the information or they
don't. You know as well as I that many don't. Many of the older owners aren't
even computer friendly and don't have access to this information exchange.

I would be willing to make a donation.

I think keeping the database up to date would be an even more daunting task
because people just don't always volunteer information about any change in
ownership.

I wonder how many coaches are owned by folks that do not belong to any of the
Wanderlodge Groups?

R.E. (Ron) Marabito, Dallas, TX 92WB40

--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, Curt Sprenger wrote:
>
> I'll throw this out for thought...
>
> Are WE willing to put upfront dollars, TBD, for some one, or some of us, to
> work at gathering that information...that's using the latest information
> list(s) that are available (TBD)?
>
> If I spent 150 hours, probable more, 4 states, and apply hi/low per state,
> seems like an hour estimate of time would be 1,000 to 1,200 hours, probable
> more hours, to call, write, etc., chase down, and create a database. Plus
> there are expenses to do just that. Then there are expenses because some
> owners only use Snail Mail, postage, and time to keep them informed. I work
> cheap, others will too, but not for free when it requires dedicated time
> that this effort requires and the expense to make it happen.
>
> Please present your thoughts to make this work.
>
> Phil & I can request the SWBB database participants grant open information
> sharing, but the response is TBD.
>
> The FINAL database should respect each participants wishes to protect or
> share information.
>
> Also, WE need to pay for the dedicated/shared space to store/maintain the
> information. Someone needs to be in charge for the space, costs, etc.
>
> Site owners, others, please reply.
>
> Curt Sprenger
> 1987 PT38 8V92 "MacAttack Racing"
> Anaheim Hills, CA
> Read all about Southwest Bluebirds and Friends (SWBB) at
> http://www.SOUTHWEST-BLUEBIRDS.ORG ...Then Join us.
> "Host of the Annual Bluebird Quartzsite Rally"
>
>
> On Sat, May 2, 2009 at 1:10 PM, Curt Sprenger wrote:
>
> > Ron,
> >
> > *USE OF PERSONAL INFORMATION.** A**ll information maintained in the
> > Southwest Bluebirds and friends database, and/or on a specific rally list,
> > is considered **strictly confidential**, and is for group use only. Only
> > information regarding a member or rally participant's name, city/state, and
> > RV unit will appear on group and/or rally materials. Personal information
> > (i.e., addresses, phone numbers, email addresses, etc.) will be shared with
> > other group members and/or rally attendees only according to a member's
> > specified preferences. If a member has not declared personal information
> > sharing preferences, none will be divulged to other members unless written
> > permission is given to the group coordinators to do so.*
> >
> > Curt Sprenger
> > 1987 PT38 8V92 "MacAttack Racing"
> > Anaheim Hills, CA
> > *Read all about Southwest Bluebirds and Friends (SWBB) at
> > http://www.SOUTHWEST-BLUEBIRDS.ORG ...Then Join us.
> > "Host of the Annual Bluebird Quartzsite Rally" *
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Sat, May 2, 2009 at 11:36 AM, ronmarabito2002 wrote:
> >
> >>
> >>
> >> Curt: You could be a nice guy and offer us that database. I know it takes
> >> a lot of time to acquire info like that. Today, that's the only kind of
> >> information available.
> >>
> >>
> >> R.E. (Ron) Marabito, Dallas, TX 92WB40
> >>
> >> --- In
WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com,
> >> Curt Sprenger wrote:
> >> >
> >> > That is how Southwest Bluebirds and Friends got started. I used CA, UT,
> >> NV,
> >> > AZ, placed calls, wrote letters, created the database, etc. Time
> >> spent...at
> >> > least 150 hours.
> >> >
> >> > Curt Sprenger
> >> > 1987 PT38 8V92 "MacAttack Racing"
> >> > Anaheim Hills, CA
> >> > *Read all about Southwest Bluebirds and Friends (SWBB) at
> >> > http://www.SOUTHWEST-BLUEBIRDS.ORG ...Then Join us.
> >> > "Host of the Annual Bluebird Quartzsite Rally" *
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > On Sat, May 2, 2009 at 8:25 AM, ronmarabito2002 wrote:
> >> >
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > > Ernie: Since you have time on your hands, you could check with Family
> >> of
> >> > > Friends and Vintage Birds to add that information to the list. Time
> >> > > consuming, but that's what you have. (bg)
> >> > >
> >> > > R.E. (Ron) Marabito, Dallas, TX 92WB40
> >> > >
> >> > > --- In
WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
> >> ,
> >> > > Ernie Ekberg wrote:
> >> > > >
> >> > > > George, the list I have from Bluebird lists owners by state and
> >> their
> >> > > address. Unfortunately, no coach data is listed.
> >> > > >
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Ernie Ekberg
> >> > > > 83PT40
> >> > > > Wanderlodge
> >> > > > Weatherford, Tx
> >> > > > http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/erni...gandrepair
> >> > > >
> >> > > > --- On Fri, 5/1/09, George Burke wrote:
> >> > > >
> >> > > > From: George Burke
> >> > > > Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Your Reply to Another One Gone
> >> > > > To:
WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
> >>
> >> > > > Date: Friday, May 1, 2009, 11:14 PM
> >> > > >
> >> > > >
> >> > > >
> >> > > >
> >> > > >
> >> > > >
> >> > > >
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Ernie, in your reply concerning the above, you mentioned that about
> >> 5
> >> > > years ago you obtained a print out from BB of bird owners that was
> >> about 2"
> >> > > thick. Do you remember what other info., other than names that were
> >> posted?
> >> > > If it showed the type of Bird, as 1977 FC31 Gas, etc., that would be
> >> great
> >> > > information to know. Some day in the future, as some of you have, I
> >> would
> >> > > like to upgrade to a newer and larger Wanderlodge, and that kind of
> >> info.,
> >> > > such as how many of each type are out there would be a big help. It
> >> might
> >> > > steer me one way or another, as, I might not look for a PT 36, if only
> >> a
> >> > > very few were built/and still on the road. I do at present very much
> >> like
> >> > > the PT36, and PT38, as well as the SP. And alas, if it was newer than
> >> 5yrs.
> >> > > old, I can guarantee you that some else would have to buy it anyway.
> >> > > Bluebird, the transit and school bus folks, are still making a front
> >> engine
> >> > > body, as well as rear engine transit models. Sure would like to see
> >> someone
> >> > > make
> >> > > > a FC/PT type Wanderlodge again from these bodys. After all, most of
> >> us
> >> > > aren't millionares, and after X amount of years, could afford to buy a
> >> used
> >> > > one. As I remember, isn't this how Wanderlodge got its start? Regards,
> >> > > George Burke 1977 FC31 SB GAS Charlotte
> >> > > >
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
>
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05-03-2009, 03:40
Post: #12
Ernie Ekberg
Unregistered
 		 
Your Reply to Another One Gone
In all my travels, I would say 50% don't belong to any group. When I introduce myself as Ernie from the Wanderlodgeforum- they look at me and say what is that? Maybe they don't want to meet me??


Ernie Ekberg
83PT40
Wanderlodge
Weatherford, Tx

--- On Sun, 5/3/09, ronmarabito2002 wrote:

From: ronmarabito2002
Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: Your Reply to Another One Gone
To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sunday, May 3, 2009, 10:26 AM


Curt: I know that Ernie is in no position to fund anything like this, nor am I, but Wanderlodge Owners all around this country could probably fund it through donations.

I for one, think a database such as this would be wonderful for individuals to access as well as organizations. I also don't think the world will end if we don't have it since our primary role here is to help people keep their coaches running and traveling. They either take advantage of the information or they don't. You know as well as I that many don't. Many of the older owners aren't even computer friendly and don't have access to this information exchange.

I would be willing to make a donation.

I think keeping the database up to date would be an even more daunting task because people just don't always volunteer information about any change in ownership.

I wonder how many coaches are owned by folks that do not belong to any of the Wanderlodge
Groups?

R.E. (Ron) Marabito, Dallas, TX 92WB40

--- In "WanderlodgeForum%40yahoogroups.com", Curt Sprenger wrote:
>
> I'll throw this out for thought...
>
> Are WE willing to put upfront dollars, TBD, for some one, or some of us, to
> work at gathering that information. ..that's using the latest information
> list(s) that are available (TBD)?
>
> If I spent 150 hours, probable more, 4 states, and apply hi/low per state,
> seems like an hour estimate of time would be 1,000 to 1,200 hours, probable
> more hours, to call, write, etc., chase down, and create a database. Plus
> there are expenses to do just that. Then there are expenses because some
> owners only use Snail Mail, postage, and time to keep them informed. I work
> cheap, others will too, but not
for free when it requires dedicated time
> that this effort requires and the expense to make it happen.
>
> Please present your thoughts to make this work.
>
> Phil & I can request the SWBB database participants grant open information
> sharing, but the response is TBD.
>
> The FINAL database should respect each participants wishes to protect or
> share information.
>
> Also, WE need to pay for the dedicated/shared space to store/maintain the
> information. Someone needs to be in charge for the space, costs, etc.
>
> Site owners, others, please reply.
>
> Curt Sprenger
> 1987 PT38 8V92 "MacAttack Racing"
> Anaheim Hills, CA
> Read all about Southwest Bluebirds and Friends (SWBB) at
> http://www.SOUTHWES T-BLUEBIRDS. ORG ...Then Join us.
> "Host
of the Annual Bluebird Quartzsite Rally"
>
>
> On Sat, May 2, 2009 at 1:10 PM, Curt Sprenger wrote:
>
> > Ron,
> >
> > *USE OF PERSONAL INFORMATION. ** A**ll information maintained in the
> > Southwest Bluebirds and friends database, and/or on a specific rally list,
> > is considered **strictly confidential* *, and is for group use only. Only
> > information regarding a member or rally participant' s name, city/state, and
> > RV unit will appear on group and/or rally materials. Personal information
> > (i.e., addresses, phone numbers, email addresses, etc.) will be shared with
> > other group members and/or rally attendees only according to a member's
> > specified preferences. If a member has not declared personal information
> > sharing preferences, none will be divulged to other members unless
written
> > permission is given to the group coordinators to do so.*
> >
> > Curt Sprenger
> > 1987 PT38 8V92 "MacAttack Racing"
> > Anaheim Hills, CA
> > *Read all about Southwest Bluebirds and Friends (SWBB) at
> > http://www.SOUTHWES T-BLUEBIRDS. ORG ...Then Join us.
> > "Host of the Annual Bluebird Quartzsite Rally" *
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Sat, May 2, 2009 at 11:36 AM, ronmarabito2002 wrote:
> >
> >>
> >>
> >> Curt: You could be a nice guy and offer us that database. I know it takes
> >> a lot of time to acquire info like that. Today, that's the only kind of
> >> information available.
> >>
> >>
> >> R.E. (Ron) Marabito, Dallas, TX
92WB40
> >>
> >> --- In "WanderlodgeForum%40yahoogroups.com",
> >> Curt Sprenger wrote:
> >> >
> >> > That is how Southwest Bluebirds and Friends got started. I used CA, UT,
> >> NV,
> >> > AZ, placed calls, wrote letters, created the database, etc. Time
> >> spent...at
> >> > least 150 hours.
> >> >
> >> > Curt Sprenger
> >> > 1987 PT38 8V92 "MacAttack Racing"
> >> > Anaheim Hills, CA
> >> > *Read all about Southwest Bluebirds and Friends (SWBB) at
> >> > http://www.SOUTHWES T-BLUEBIRDS. ORG ...Then Join us.
> >>
> "Host of the Annual Bluebird Quartzsite Rally" *
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > On Sat, May 2, 2009 at 8:25 AM, ronmarabito2002 wrote:
> >> >
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > > Ernie: Since you have time on your hands, you could check with Family
> >> of
> >> > > Friends and Vintage Birds to add that information to the list. Time
> >> > > consuming, but that's what you have. (bg)
> >> > >
> >> > > R.E. (Ron) Marabito, Dallas, TX 92WB40
> >> > >
> >> > > --- In "WanderlodgeForum%40yahoogroups.com"
> >> com>,
> >> > > Ernie Ekberg wrote:
> >> > > >
> >> > > > George, the list I have from Bluebird lists owners by state and
> >> their
> >> > > address. Unfortunately, no coach data is listed.
> >> > > >
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Ernie Ekberg
> >> > > > 83PT40
> >> > > > Wanderlodge
> >> > > > Weatherford, Tx
> >> > > > http://autos. groups.yahoo. com/group/ erniesremodeling andrepair
> >> > > >
> >> > > > --- On Fri, 5/1/09, George Burke wrote:
> >> > > >
> >> > > > From: George Burke

> >> > > > Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Your Reply to Another One Gone
> >> > > > To: "WanderlodgeForum%40yahoogroups.com"
> >>
> >> > > > Date: Friday, May 1, 2009, 11:14 PM
> >> > > >
> >> > > >
> >> > > >
> >> > > >
> >> > > >
> >> > > >
> >> > > >
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Ernie, in your reply concerning the above, you mentioned that about
> >> 5
> >> > > years ago you obtained a print out from BB of bird owners that was
> >> about 2"
> >> > > thick. Do
you remember what other info., other than names that were
> >> posted?
> >> > > If it showed the type of Bird, as 1977 FC31 Gas, etc., that would be
> >> great
> >> > > information to know. Some day in the future, as some of you have, I
> >> would
> >> > > like to upgrade to a newer and larger Wanderlodge, and that kind of
> >> info.,
> >> > > such as how many of each type are out there would be a big help. It
> >> might
> >> > > steer me one way or another, as, I might not look for a PT 36, if only
> >> a
> >> > > very few were built/and still on the road. I do at present very much
> >> like
> >> > > the PT36, and PT38, as well as the SP. And alas, if it was newer than
> >> 5yrs.
> >> > > old, I can guarantee you
that some else would have to buy it anyway.
> >> > > Bluebird, the transit and school bus folks, are still making a front
> >> engine
> >> > > body, as well as rear engine transit models. Sure would like to see
> >> someone
> >> > > make
> >> > > > a FC/PT type Wanderlodge again from these bodys. After all, most of
> >> us
> >> > > aren't millionares, and after X amount of years, could afford to buy a
> >> used
> >> > > one. As I remember, isn't this how Wanderlodge got its start? Regards,
> >> > > George Burke 1977 FC31 SB GAS Charlotte
> >> > > >
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
>
>
>
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05-03-2009, 03:58
Post: #13
Pete Masterson
Unregistered
 		 
Your Reply to Another One Gone
What about the Blue Bird Chapter of FMCA? -- They've been separate from the company for some time and may have at least some records of owners....
Pete Masterson
'95 Blue Bird Wanderlodge WBDA 42
El Sobrante CA
"aeonix1@mac.com"

On May 3, 2009, at 8:26 AM, ronmarabito2002 wrote:

Curt: I know that Ernie is in no position to fund anything like this, nor am I, but Wanderlodge Owners all around this country could probably fund it through donations.

I for one, think a database such as this would be wonderful for individuals to access as well as organizations. I also don't think the world will end if we don't have it since our primary role here is to help people keep their coaches running and traveling. They either take advantage of the information or they don't. You know as well as I that many don't. Many of the older owners aren't even computer friendly and don't have access to this information exchange.

I would be willing to make a donation.

I think keeping the database up to date would be an even more daunting task because people just don't always volunteer information about any change in ownership.

I wonder how many coaches are owned by folks that do not belong to any of the Wanderlodge Groups?

R.E. (Ron) Marabito, Dallas, TX 92WB40

--- In "WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com", Curt Sprenger wrote:
I'll throw this out for thought...
Are WE willing to put upfront dollars, TBD, for some one, or some of us, to
work at gathering that information...that's using the latest information
list(s) that are available (TBD)?
If I spent 150 hours, probable more, 4 states, and apply hi/low per state,
seems like an hour estimate of time would be 1,000 to 1,200 hours, probable
more hours, to call, write, etc., chase down, and create a database. Plus
there are expenses to do just that. Then there are expenses because some
owners only use Snail Mail, postage, and time to keep them informed. I work
cheap, others will too, but not for free when it requires dedicated time
that this effort requires and the expense to make it happen.
Please present your thoughts to make this work.
Phil & I can request the SWBB database participants grant open information
sharing, but the response is TBD.
The FINAL database should respect each participants wishes to protect or
share information.
Also, WE need to pay for the dedicated/shared space to store/maintain the
information. Someone needs to be in charge for the space, costs, etc.
Site owners, others, please reply.
Curt Sprenger
1987 PT38 8V92 "MacAttack Racing"
Anaheim Hills, CA
Read all about Southwest Bluebirds and Friends (SWBB) at
http://www.SOUTHWEST-BLUEBIRDS.ORG ...Then Join us.
"Host of the Annual Bluebird Quartzsite Rally"
On Sat, May 2, 2009 at 1:10 PM, Curt Sprenger wrote:
Ron,
*USE OF PERSONAL INFORMATION.** A**ll information maintained in the
Southwest Bluebirds and friends database, and/or on a specific rally list,
is considered **strictly confidential**, and is for group use only. Only
information regarding a member or rally participant's name, city/state, and
RV unit will appear on group and/or rally materials. Personal information
(i.e., addresses, phone numbers, email addresses, etc.) will be shared with
other group members and/or rally attendees only according to a member's
specified preferences. If a member has not declared personal information
sharing preferences, none will be divulged to other members unless written
permission is given to the group coordinators to do so.*
Curt Sprenger
1987 PT38 8V92 "MacAttack Racing"
Anaheim Hills, CA
*Read all about Southwest Bluebirds and Friends (SWBB) at
http://www.SOUTHWEST-BLUEBIRDS.ORG ...Then Join us.
"Host of the Annual Bluebird Quartzsite Rally" *
On Sat, May 2, 2009 at 11:36 AM, ronmarabito2002 wrote:
Curt: You could be a nice guy and offer us that database. I know it takes
a lot of time to acquire info like that. Today, that's the only kind of
information available.
R.E. (Ron) Marabito, Dallas, TX 92WB40
--- In "WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com",
Curt Sprenger wrote:
That is how Southwest Bluebirds and Friends got started. I used CA, UT,
NV,
AZ, placed calls, wrote letters, created the database, etc. Time
spent...at
least 150 hours.
Curt Sprenger
1987 PT38 8V92 "MacAttack Racing"
Anaheim Hills, CA
*Read all about Southwest Bluebirds and Friends (SWBB) at
http://www.SOUTHWEST-BLUEBIRDS.ORG ...Then Join us.
"Host of the Annual Bluebird Quartzsite Rally" *
On Sat, May 2, 2009 at 8:25 AM, ronmarabito2002 wrote:
Ernie: Since you have time on your hands, you could check with Family
of
Friends and Vintage Birds to add that information to the list. Time
consuming, but that's what you have. (bg)
R.E. (Ron) Marabito, Dallas, TX 92WB40
--- In "WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com"
,
Ernie Ekberg wrote:
George, the list I have from Bluebird lists owners by state and
their
address. Unfortunately, no coach data is listed.
Ernie Ekberg
83PT40
Wanderlodge
Weatherford, Tx
http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/erni...gandrepair
--- On Fri, 5/1/09, George Burke wrote:
From: George Burke
Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Your Reply to Another One Gone
To: "WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com"
Date: Friday, May 1, 2009, 11:14 PM
Ernie, in your reply concerning the above, you mentioned that about
5
years ago you obtained a print out from BB of bird owners that was
about 2"
thick. Do you remember what other info., other than names that were
posted?
If it showed the type of Bird, as 1977 FC31 Gas, etc., that would be
great
information to know. Some day in the future, as some of you have, I
would
like to upgrade to a newer and larger Wanderlodge, and that kind of
info.,
such as how many of each type are out there would be a big help. It
might
steer me one way or another, as, I might not look for a PT 36, if only
a
very few were built/and still on the road. I do at present very much
like
the PT36, and PT38, as well as the SP. And alas, if it was newer than
5yrs.
old, I can guarantee you that some else would have to buy it anyway.
Bluebird, the transit and school bus folks, are still making a front
engine
body, as well as rear engine transit models. Sure would like to see
someone
make
a FC/PT type Wanderlodge again from these bodys. After all, most of
us
aren't millionares, and after X amount of years, could afford to buy a
used
one. As I remember, isn't this how Wanderlodge got its start? Regards,
George Burke 1977 FC31 SB GAS Charlotte



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05-03-2009, 05:30
Post: #14
Curt Sprenger
Unregistered
 		 
Your Reply to Another One Gone
Go to FMCA site, click on Members, select Coach (BlueBird (BWC) and Search...1,272 'Bird members.
Curt Sprenger

1987 PT38 8V92 "MacAttack Racing"

Anaheim Hills, CA
Read all about Southwest Bluebirds and Friends (SWBB) at http://www.SOUTHWEST-BLUEBIRDS.ORG ...Then Join us.

"Host of the Annual Bluebird Quartzsite Rally"

On Sun, May 3, 2009 at 8:58 AM, Pete Masterson <"aeonix1@mac.com"> wrote:





What about the Blue Bird Chapter of FMCA? -- They've been separate from the company for some time and may have at least some records of owners....

Pete Masterson
'95 Blue Bird Wanderlodge WBDA 42 
El Sobrante CA
"aeonix1@mac.com"

On May 3, 2009, at 8:26 AM, ronmarabito2002 wrote:
Curt:  I know that Ernie is in no position to fund anything like this, nor am I, but Wanderlodge Owners all around this country could probably fund it through donations.


I for one, think a database such as this would be wonderful for individuals to access as well as organizations.  I also don't think the world will end if we don't have it  since our primary role here is to help people keep their coaches running and traveling.  They either take advantage of the information or they don't.  You know as well as I that many don't.  Many of the older owners aren't even computer friendly and don't have access to this information exchange.


I would be willing to make a donation.

I think keeping the database up to date would be an even more daunting task because people just don't always volunteer information about any change in ownership.


I wonder how many coaches are owned by folks that do not belong to any of the Wanderlodge Groups?

R.E. (Ron) Marabito, Dallas, TX  92WB40

--- In "WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com", Curt Sprenger wrote:

I'll throw this out for thought...
Are WE willing to put upfront dollars, TBD, for some one, or some of us, to
work at gathering that information...that's using the latest information
list(s) that are available (TBD)?
If I spent 150 hours, probable more, 4 states, and apply hi/low per state,
seems like an hour estimate of time would be 1,000  to 1,200 hours, probable
more hours, to call, write, etc., chase down, and create a database. Plus
there are expenses to do just that. Then there are expenses because some
owners only use Snail Mail, postage, and time to keep them informed. I work
cheap, others will too, but not for free when it requires dedicated time
that this effort requires and the expense to make it happen.
Please present your thoughts to make this work.
Phil & I can request the SWBB database participants grant open information
sharing, but the response is TBD.
The FINAL database should respect each participants wishes to protect or
share information.
Also, WE need to pay for the dedicated/shared space to store/maintain the
information. Someone needs to be in charge for the space, costs, etc.
Site owners, others, please reply.
Curt Sprenger
1987 PT38 8V92 "MacAttack Racing"
Anaheim Hills, CA
Read all about Southwest Bluebirds and Friends (SWBB) at
http://www.SOUTHWEST-BLUEBIRDS.ORG ...Then Join us.
"Host of the Annual Bluebird Quartzsite Rally"
On Sat, May 2, 2009 at 1:10 PM, Curt Sprenger wrote:
Ron,
*USE OF PERSONAL INFORMATION.**  A**ll information maintained in the
Southwest Bluebirds and friends database, and/or on a specific rally list,
is considered **strictly confidential**, and is for group use only.  Only
information regarding a member or rally participant's name, city/state, and
RV unit will appear on group and/or rally materials.  Personal information
(i.e., addresses, phone numbers, email addresses, etc.) will be shared with
other group members and/or rally attendees only according to a member's
specified preferences.   If a member has not declared personal information
sharing preferences, none will be divulged to other members unless written
permission is given to the group coordinators to do so.*
Curt Sprenger
1987 PT38 8V92 "MacAttack Racing"
Anaheim Hills, CA
*Read all about Southwest Bluebirds and Friends (SWBB) at
http://www.SOUTHWEST-BLUEBIRDS.ORG ...Then Join us.
"Host of the Annual Bluebird Quartzsite Rally" *
On Sat, May 2, 2009 at 11:36 AM, ronmarabito2002 wrote:
Curt: You could be a nice guy and offer us that database. I know it takes
a lot of time to acquire info like that. Today, that's the only kind of
information available.
R.E. (Ron) Marabito, Dallas, TX 92WB40
--- In "WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com"40yahoogroups.com>,
Curt Sprenger wrote:
That is how Southwest Bluebirds and Friends got started. I used CA, UT,
NV,
AZ, placed calls, wrote letters, created the database, etc. Time
spent...at
least 150 hours.
Curt Sprenger
1987 PT38 8V92 "MacAttack Racing"
Anaheim Hills, CA
*Read all about Southwest Bluebirds and Friends (SWBB) at
http://www.SOUTHWEST-BLUEBIRDS.ORG ...Then Join us.
"Host of the Annual Bluebird Quartzsite Rally" *
On Sat, May 2, 2009 at 8:25 AM, ronmarabito2002 wrote:
Ernie: Since you have time on your hands, you could check with Family
of
Friends and Vintage Birds to add that information to the list. Time
consuming, but that's what you have. (bg)
R.E. (Ron) Marabito, Dallas, TX 92WB40
--- In "WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com"40yahoogroups.com>
40yahoogroups.com>,
Ernie Ekberg wrote:
George, the list I have from Bluebird lists owners by state and
their
address. Unfortunately, no coach data is listed.
Ernie Ekberg
83PT40
Wanderlodge
Weatherford, Tx
http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/erni...gandrepair
--- On Fri, 5/1/09, George Burke wrote:
From: George Burke
Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Your Reply to Another One Gone
To: "WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com"40yahoogroups.com>
40yahoogroups.com>
Date: Friday, May 1, 2009, 11:14 PM
Ernie, in your reply concerning the above, you mentioned that about
5
years ago you obtained a print out from BB of bird owners that was
about 2"
thick. Do you remember what other info., other than names that were
posted?
If it showed the type of Bird, as 1977 FC31 Gas, etc., that would be
great
information to know. Some day in the future, as some of you have, I
would
like to upgrade to a newer and larger Wanderlodge, and that kind of
info.,
such as how many of each type are out there would be a big help. It
might
steer me one way or another, as, I might not look for a PT 36, if only
a
very few were built/and still on the road. I do at present very much
like
the PT36, and PT38, as well as the SP. And alas, if it was newer than
5yrs.
old, I can guarantee you that some else would have to buy it anyway.
Bluebird, the transit and school bus folks, are still making a front
engine
body, as well as rear engine transit models. Sure would like to see
someone
make
a FC/PT type Wanderlodge again from these bodys. After all, most of
us
aren't millionares, and after X amount of years, could afford to buy a
used
one. As I remember, isn't this how Wanderlodge got its start? Regards,
George Burke 1977 FC31 SB GAS Charlotte



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05-03-2009, 05:59
Post: #15
trekkersmith1
Unregistered
 		 
Your Reply to Another One Gone
Curt,
That will indeed get you folks who are FMCA members who registered with a BB,
but doesn't mean they still own one, or that they are a member of any chapter,
be it a BB related chapter, or any other. An appropriate officer of any FMCA
chapter can request FMCA provide a listing of members who are not in any chapter
using various criteria (coach brand being one of the choices), to allow chapter
recruitment efforts. FMCA will also mail out contact letters prepared by the
chapter to "qualifying" FMCA members who are not being carried as a member of
any chapter. They will do the letter duplication, evelope addressing, and
absorb some amount of postage ($100?) each year to help you recruit. They will
not solicit any FMCA member for membership in your chapter if they are a member
of another chapter.
Gary
SOB
--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, Curt Sprenger wrote:
>
> Go to FMCA site, click on Members, select Coach (BlueBird (BWC) and
> Search...1,272 'Bird members.
>
> Curt Sprenger
> 1987 PT38 8V92 "MacAttack Racing"
> Anaheim Hills, CA
> *Read all about Southwest Bluebirds and Friends (SWBB) at
> http://www.SOUTHWEST-BLUEBIRDS.ORG ...Then Join us.
> "Host of the Annual Bluebird Quartzsite Rally" *
>
>
>
> On Sun, May 3, 2009 at 8:58 AM, Pete Masterson wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > What about the Blue Bird Chapter of FMCA? -- They've been separate from the
> > company for some time and may have at least some records of owners....
> >
> > Pete Masterson
> > '95 Blue Bird Wanderlodge WBDA 42
> > El Sobrante CA
> > aeonix1@...
> >
> >
> >
> > On May 3, 2009, at 8:26 AM, ronmarabito2002 wrote:
> >
> > Curt: I know that Ernie is in no position to fund anything like this, nor
> > am I, but Wanderlodge Owners all around this country could probably fund it
> > through donations.
> >
> > I for one, think a database such as this would be wonderful for individuals
> > to access as well as organizations. I also don't think the world will end
> > if we don't have it since our primary role here is to help people keep
> > their coaches running and traveling. They either take advantage of the
> > information or they don't. You know as well as I that many don't. Many of
> > the older owners aren't even computer friendly and don't have access to this
> > information exchange.
> >
> > I would be willing to make a donation.
> >
> > I think keeping the database up to date would be an even more daunting task
> > because people just don't always volunteer information about any change in
> > ownership.
> >
> > I wonder how many coaches are owned by folks that do not belong to any of
> > the Wanderlodge Groups?
> >
> > R.E. (Ron) Marabito, Dallas, TX 92WB40
> >
> > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, Curt Sprenger
> > wrote:
> >
> >
> > I'll throw this out for thought...
> >
> >
> > Are WE willing to put upfront dollars, TBD, for some one, or some of us, to
> >
> > work at gathering that information...that's using the latest information
> >
> > list(s) that are available (TBD)?
> >
> >
> > If I spent 150 hours, probable more, 4 states, and apply hi/low per state,
> >
> > seems like an hour estimate of time would be 1,000 to 1,200 hours,
> > probable
> >
> > more hours, to call, write, etc., chase down, and create a database. Plus
> >
> > there are expenses to do just that. Then there are expenses because some
> >
> > owners only use Snail Mail, postage, and time to keep them informed. I work
> >
> > cheap, others will too, but not for free when it requires dedicated time
> >
> > that this effort requires and the expense to make it happen.
> >
> >
> > Please present your thoughts to make this work.
> >
> >
> > Phil & I can request the SWBB database participants grant open information
> >
> > sharing, but the response is TBD.
> >
> >
> > The FINAL database should respect each participants wishes to protect or
> >
> > share information.
> >
> >
> > Also, WE need to pay for the dedicated/shared space to store/maintain the
> >
> > information. Someone needs to be in charge for the space, costs, etc.
> >
> >
> > Site owners, others, please reply.
> >
> >
> > Curt Sprenger
> >
> > 1987 PT38 8V92 "MacAttack Racing"
> >
> > Anaheim Hills, CA
> >
> > Read all about Southwest Bluebirds and Friends (SWBB) at
> >
> > http://www.SOUTHWEST-BLUEBIRDS.ORG ...Then Join us.
> >
> > "Host of the Annual Bluebird Quartzsite Rally"
> >
> >
> >
> > On Sat, May 2, 2009 at 1:10 PM, Curt Sprenger wrote:
> >
> >
> > Ron,
> >
> >
> > *USE OF PERSONAL INFORMATION.** A**ll information maintained in the
> >
> > Southwest Bluebirds and friends database, and/or on a specific rally list,
> >
> > is considered **strictly confidential**, and is for group use only. Only
> >
> > information regarding a member or rally participant's name, city/state, and
> >
> > RV unit will appear on group and/or rally materials. Personal information
> >
> > (i.e., addresses, phone numbers, email addresses, etc.) will be shared with
> >
> > other group members and/or rally attendees only according to a member's
> >
> > specified preferences. If a member has not declared personal information
> >
> > sharing preferences, none will be divulged to other members unless written
> >
> > permission is given to the group coordinators to do so.*
> >
> >
> > Curt Sprenger
> >
> > 1987 PT38 8V92 "MacAttack Racing"
> >
> > Anaheim Hills, CA
> >
> > *Read all about Southwest Bluebirds and Friends (SWBB) at
> >
> > http://www.SOUTHWEST-BLUEBIRDS.ORG ...Then Join us.
> >
> > "Host of the Annual Bluebird Quartzsite Rally" *
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Sat, May 2, 2009 at 11:36 AM, ronmarabito2002 wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Curt: You could be a nice guy and offer us that database. I know it takes
> >
> > a lot of time to acquire info like that. Today, that's the only kind of
> >
> > information available.
> >
> >
> >
> > R.E. (Ron) Marabito, Dallas, TX 92WB40
> >
> >
> > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com > > >,
> >
> > Curt Sprenger wrote:
> >
> >
> > That is how Southwest Bluebirds and Friends got started. I used CA, UT,
> >
> > NV,
> >
> > AZ, placed calls, wrote letters, created the database, etc. Time
> >
> > spent...at
> >
> > least 150 hours.
> >
> >
> > Curt Sprenger
> >
> > 1987 PT38 8V92 "MacAttack Racing"
> >
> > Anaheim Hills, CA
> >
> > *Read all about Southwest Bluebirds and Friends (SWBB) at
> >
> > http://www.SOUTHWEST-BLUEBIRDS.ORG ...Then Join us.
> >
> > "Host of the Annual Bluebird Quartzsite Rally" *
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Sat, May 2, 2009 at 8:25 AM, ronmarabito2002 wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Ernie: Since you have time on your hands, you could check with Family
> >
> > of
> >
> > Friends and Vintage Birds to add that information to the list. Time
> >
> > consuming, but that's what you have. (bg)
> >
> >
> > R.E. (Ron) Marabito, Dallas, TX 92WB40
> >
> >
> > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com > > >
> >
> > ,
> >
> > Ernie Ekberg wrote:
> >
> >
> > George, the list I have from Bluebird lists owners by state and
> >
> > their
> >
> > address. Unfortunately, no coach data is listed.
> >
> >
> >
> > Ernie Ekberg
> >
> > 83PT40
> >
> > Wanderlodge
> >
> > Weatherford, Tx
> >
> > http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/erni...gandrepair
> >
> >
> > --- On Fri, 5/1/09, George Burke wrote:
> >
> >
> > From: George Burke
> >
> > Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Your Reply to Another One Gone
> >
> > To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
> >
> >
> >
> > Date: Friday, May 1, 2009, 11:14 PM
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Ernie, in your reply concerning the above, you mentioned that about
> >
> > 5
> >
> > years ago you obtained a print out from BB of bird owners that was
> >
> > about 2"
> >
> > thick. Do you remember what other info., other than names that were
> >
> > posted?
> >
> > If it showed the type of Bird, as 1977 FC31 Gas, etc., that would be
> >
> > great
> >
> > information to know. Some day in the future, as some of you have, I
> >
> > would
> >
> > like to upgrade to a newer and larger Wanderlodge, and that kind of
> >
> > info.,
> >
> > such as how many of each type are out there would be a big help. It
> >
> > might
> >
> > steer me one way or another, as, I might not look for a PT 36, if only
> >
> > a
> >
> > very few were built/and still on the road. I do at present very much
> >
> > like
> >
> > the PT36, and PT38, as well as the SP. And alas, if it was newer than
> >
> > 5yrs.
> >
> > old, I can guarantee you that some else would have to buy it anyway.
> >
> > Bluebird, the transit and school bus folks, are still making a front
> >
> > engine
> >
> > body, as well as rear engine transit models. Sure would like to see
> >
> > someone
> >
> > make
> >
> > a FC/PT type Wanderlodge again from these bodys. After all, most of
> >
> > us
> >
> > aren't millionares, and after X amount of years, could afford to buy a
> >
> > used
> >
> > one. As I remember, isn't this how Wanderlodge got its start? Regards,
> >
> > George Burke 1977 FC31 SB GAS Charlotte
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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> >
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> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
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05-03-2009, 10:14
Post: #16
Bob Lawrence
Unregistered
 		 
Your Reply to Another One Gone
I have found this to be true since we left Seattle also.
I can only remember one that was on the forum. Rest don't belong to any group.
They look at me like I came from Mars when I ask if they know about the group.
I mention that they ought to join to keep their bird running, and I have always
gotten the impression that they cound care less.
Bob Lawrence
84 PT36
League City, Texas

> In all my travels, I would say 50% don't belong to any group. When I introduce
myself as Ernie from the Wanderlodgeforum- they look at me and say what is that?
Maybe they don't want to meet me??
>
>
> Ernie Ekberg
> 83PT40
> Wanderlodge
> Weatherford, Tx
> http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/erni...gandrepair
>
> --- On Sun, 5/3/09, ronmarabito2002 wrote:
>
> From: ronmarabito2002
> Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: Your Reply to Another One Gone
> To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Sunday, May 3, 2009, 10:26 AM
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Curt: I know that Ernie is in no position to fund anything like this, nor am
I, but Wanderlodge Owners all around this country could probably fund it through
donations.
>
> I for one, think a database such as this would be wonderful for individuals to
access as well as organizations. I also don't think the world will end if we
don't have it since our primary role here is to help people keep their coaches
running and traveling. They either take advantage of the information or they
don't. You know as well as I that many don't. Many of the older owners aren't
even computer friendly and don't have access to this information exchange.
>
> I would be willing to make a donation.
>
> I think keeping the database up to date would be an even more daunting task
because people just don't always volunteer information about any change in
ownership.
>
> I wonder how many coaches are owned by folks that do not belong to any of the
Wanderlodge Groups?
>
> R.E. (Ron) Marabito, Dallas, TX 92WB40
>
> --- In WanderlodgeForum@ yahoogroups. com, Curt Sprenger
wrote:
> >
> > I'll throw this out for thought...
> >
> > Are WE willing to put upfront dollars, TBD, for some one, or some of us, to
> > work at gathering that information. ..that's using the latest information
> > list(s) that are available (TBD)?
> >
> > If I spent 150 hours, probable more, 4 states, and apply hi/low per state,
> > seems like an hour estimate of time would be 1,000 to 1,200 hours, probable
> > more hours, to call, write, etc., chase down, and create a database. Plus
> > there are expenses to do just that. Then there are expenses because some
> > owners only use Snail Mail, postage, and time to keep them informed. I work
> > cheap, others will too, but not for free when it requires dedicated time
> > that this effort requires and the expense to make it happen.
> >
> > Please present your thoughts to make this work.
> >
> > Phil & I can request the SWBB database participants grant open information
> > sharing, but the response is TBD.
> >
> > The FINAL database should respect each participants wishes to protect or
> > share information.
> >
> > Also, WE need to pay for the dedicated/shared space to store/maintain the
> > information. Someone needs to be in charge for the space, costs, etc.
> >
> > Site owners, others, please reply.
> >
> > Curt Sprenger
> > 1987 PT38 8V92 "MacAttack Racing"
> > Anaheim Hills, CA
> > Read all about Southwest Bluebirds and Friends (SWBB) at
> > http://www.SOUTHWES T-BLUEBIRDS. ORG ...Then Join us.
> > "Host of the Annual Bluebird Quartzsite Rally"
> >
> >
> > On Sat, May 2, 2009 at 1:10 PM, Curt Sprenger wrote:
> >
> > > Ron,
> > >
> > > *USE OF PERSONAL INFORMATION. ** A**ll information maintained in the
> > > Southwest Bluebirds and friends database, and/or on a specific rally list,
> > > is considered **strictly confidential* *, and is for group use only. Only
> > > information regarding a member or rally participant' s name, city/state,
and
> > > RV unit will appear on group and/or rally materials. Personal information
> > > (i.e., addresses, phone numbers, email addresses, etc.) will be shared
with
> > > other group members and/or rally attendees only according to a member's
> > > specified preferences. If a member has not declared personal information
> > > sharing preferences, none will be divulged to other members unless written
> > > permission is given to the group coordinators to do so.*
> > >
> > > Curt Sprenger
> > > 1987 PT38 8V92 "MacAttack Racing"
> > > Anaheim Hills, CA
> > > *Read all about Southwest Bluebirds and Friends (SWBB) at
> > > http://www.SOUTHWES T-BLUEBIRDS. ORG ...Then Join us.
> > > "Host of the Annual Bluebird Quartzsite Rally" *
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Sat, May 2, 2009 at 11:36 AM, ronmarabito2002 wrote:
> > >
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Curt: You could be a nice guy and offer us that database. I know it takes
> > >> a lot of time to acquire info like that. Today, that's the only kind of
> > >> information available.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> R.E. (Ron) Marabito, Dallas, TX 92WB40
> > >>
> > >> --- In WanderlodgeForum@ yahoogroups. com 40yahoogroups. com>,
> > >> Curt Sprenger wrote:
> > >> >
> > >> > That is how Southwest Bluebirds and Friends got started. I used CA, UT,
> > >> NV,
> > >> > AZ, placed calls, wrote letters, created the database, etc. Time
> > >> spent...at
> > >> > least 150 hours.
> > >> >
> > >> > Curt Sprenger
> > >> > 1987 PT38 8V92 "MacAttack Racing"
> > >> > Anaheim Hills, CA
> > >> > *Read all about Southwest Bluebirds and Friends (SWBB) at
> > >> > http://www.SOUTHWES T-BLUEBIRDS. ORG ...Then Join us.
> > >> > "Host of the Annual Bluebird Quartzsite Rally" *
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> > On Sat, May 2, 2009 at 8:25 AM, ronmarabito2002 wrote:
> > >> >
> > >> > >
> > >> > >
> > >> > > Ernie: Since you have time on your hands, you could check with Family
> > >> of
> > >> > > Friends and Vintage Birds to add that information to the list. Time
> > >> > > consuming, but that's what you have. (bg)
> > >> > >
> > >> > > R.E. (Ron) Marabito, Dallas, TX 92WB40
> > >> > >
> > >> > > --- In WanderlodgeForum@ yahoogroups. com 40yahoogroups. com>
> > >> ,
> > >> > > Ernie Ekberg wrote:
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > George, the list I have from Bluebird lists owners by state and
> > >> their
> > >> > > address. Unfortunately, no coach data is listed.
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > Ernie Ekberg
> > >> > > > 83PT40
> > >> > > > Wanderlodge
> > >> > > > Weatherford, Tx
> > >> > > > http://autos. groups.yahoo. com/group/ erniesremodeling andrepair
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > --- On Fri, 5/1/09, George Burke wrote:
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > From: George Burke
> > >> > > > Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Your Reply to Another One Gone
> > >> > > > To: WanderlodgeForum@ yahoogroups. com 40yahoogroups. com>
> > >>
> > >> > > > Date: Friday, May 1, 2009, 11:14 PM
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > Ernie, in your reply concerning the above, you mentioned that about
> > >> 5
> > >> > > years ago you obtained a print out from BB of bird owners that was
> > >> about 2"
> > >> > > thick. Do you remember what other info., other than names that were
> > >> posted?
> > >> > > If it showed the type of Bird, as 1977 FC31 Gas, etc., that would be
> > >> great
> > >> > > information to know. Some day in the future, as some of you have, I
> > >> would
> > >> > > like to upgrade to a newer and larger Wanderlodge, and that kind of
> > >> info.,
> > >> > > such as how many of each type are out there would be a big help. It
> > >> might
> > >> > > steer me one way or another, as, I might not look for a PT 36, if
only
> > >> a
> > >> > > very few were built/and still on the road. I do at present very much
> > >> like
> > >> > > the PT36, and PT38, as well as the SP. And alas, if it was newer than
> > >> 5yrs.
> > >> > > old, I can guarantee you that some else would have to buy it anyway.
> > >> > > Bluebird, the transit and school bus folks, are still making a front
> > >> engine
> > >> > > body, as well as rear engine transit models. Sure would like to see
> > >> someone
> > >> > > make
> > >> > > > a FC/PT type Wanderlodge again from these bodys. After all, most of
> > >> us
> > >> > > aren't millionares, and after X amount of years, could afford to buy
a
> > >> used
> > >> > > one. As I remember, isn't this how Wanderlodge got its start?
Regards,
> > >> > > George Burke 1977 FC31 SB GAS Charlotte
> > >> > > >
> > >> > >
> > >> > >
> > >> > >
> > >> >
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >
> > >
> >
>
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05-03-2009, 10:22
Post: #17
Ernie Ekberg
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Your Reply to Another One Gone
Bob, Brenda and I were at the holiday rally in 07 in Kerrville. Steve Gureasko and I were walking around the campground. A Prevost Proud rally was there at the same time. Steve asked one of the owners if their group ever has tech seminars. the guy just laughed at as and said, no- we just write a check to get anything fixed. While I would loike to just do that, I get the satisfaction of conquering a problem and making the old girls run, with a little help from my friends. Different strokes~


Ernie Ekberg
83PT40
Wanderlodge
Weatherford, Tx

--- On Sun, 5/3/09, Bob Lawrence wrote:

From: Bob Lawrence
Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: Your Reply to Another One Gone
To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sunday, May 3, 2009, 5:14 PM


I have found this to be true since we left Seattle also.
I can only remember one that was on the forum. Rest don't belong to any group.
They look at me like I came from Mars when I ask if they know about the group.
I mention that they ought to join to keep their bird running, and I have always gotten the impression that they cound care less.
Bob Lawrence
84 PT36
League City, Texas

> In all my travels, I would say 50% don't belong to any group. When I introduce myself as Ernie from the Wanderlodgeforum- they look at me and say what is that? Maybe they don't want to meet me??
>
>
> Ernie Ekberg
> 83PT40
> Wanderlodge
> Weatherford, Tx
> http://autos. groups.yahoo. com/group/ erniesremodeling andrepair
>
> --- On Sun, 5/3/09, ronmarabito2002
wrote:
>
> From: ronmarabito2002
> Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: Your Reply to Another One Gone
> To: "WanderlodgeForum%40yahoogroups.com"
> Date: Sunday, May 3, 2009, 10:26 AM
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Curt: I know that Ernie is in no position to fund anything like this, nor am I, but Wanderlodge Owners all around this country could probably fund it through donations.
>
> I for one, think a database such as this would be wonderful for individuals to access as well as organizations. I also don't think the world will end if we don't have it since our primary role here is to help people keep their coaches running and traveling. They either take advantage of the information or they don't. You know as well as I that many don't. Many of the older owners
aren't even computer friendly and don't have access to this information exchange.
>
> I would be willing to make a donation.
>
> I think keeping the database up to date would be an even more daunting task because people just don't always volunteer information about any change in ownership.
>
> I wonder how many coaches are owned by folks that do not belong to any of the Wanderlodge Groups?
>
> R.E. (Ron) Marabito, Dallas, TX 92WB40
>
> --- In WanderlodgeForum@ yahoogroups. com, Curt Sprenger wrote:
> >
> > I'll throw this out for thought...
> >
> > Are WE willing to put upfront dollars, TBD, for some one, or some of us, to
> > work at gathering that information. ..that's using the latest information
> > list(s) that are available (TBD)?
> >
> > If I spent 150 hours, probable more, 4 states,
and apply hi/low per state,
> > seems like an hour estimate of time would be 1,000 to 1,200 hours, probable
> > more hours, to call, write, etc., chase down, and create a database. Plus
> > there are expenses to do just that. Then there are expenses because some
> > owners only use Snail Mail, postage, and time to keep them informed. I work
> > cheap, others will too, but not for free when it requires dedicated time
> > that this effort requires and the expense to make it happen.
> >
> > Please present your thoughts to make this work.
> >
> > Phil & I can request the SWBB database participants grant open information
> > sharing, but the response is TBD.
> >
> > The FINAL database should respect each participants wishes to protect or
> > share information.
> >
> > Also, WE need to pay for the
dedicated/shared space to store/maintain the
> > information. Someone needs to be in charge for the space, costs, etc.
> >
> > Site owners, others, please reply.
> >
> > Curt Sprenger
> > 1987 PT38 8V92 "MacAttack Racing"
> > Anaheim Hills, CA
> > Read all about Southwest Bluebirds and Friends (SWBB) at
> > http://www.SOUTHWES T-BLUEBIRDS. ORG ...Then Join us.
> > "Host of the Annual Bluebird Quartzsite Rally"
> >
> >
> > On Sat, May 2, 2009 at 1:10 PM, Curt Sprenger wrote:
> >
> > > Ron,
> > >
> > > *USE OF PERSONAL INFORMATION. ** A**ll information maintained in the
> > > Southwest Bluebirds and friends database, and/or on a specific rally list,
> > > is considered **strictly
confidential* *, and is for group use only. Only
> > > information regarding a member or rally participant' s name, city/state, and
> > > RV unit will appear on group and/or rally materials. Personal information
> > > (i.e., addresses, phone numbers, email addresses, etc.) will be shared with
> > > other group members and/or rally attendees only according to a member's
> > > specified preferences. If a member has not declared personal information
> > > sharing preferences, none will be divulged to other members unless written
> > > permission is given to the group coordinators to do so.*
> > >
> > > Curt Sprenger
> > > 1987 PT38 8V92 "MacAttack Racing"
> > > Anaheim Hills, CA
> > > *Read all about Southwest Bluebirds and Friends (SWBB) at
> > > http://www.SOUTHWES T-BLUEBIRDS. ORG ...Then Join us.
> > > "Host of the Annual Bluebird Quartzsite Rally" *
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Sat, May 2, 2009 at 11:36 AM, ronmarabito2002 wrote:
> > >
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Curt: You could be a nice guy and offer us that database. I know it takes
> > >> a lot of time to acquire info like that. Today, that's the only kind of
> > >> information available.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> R.E. (Ron) Marabito, Dallas, TX 92WB40
> > >>
> > >> --- In WanderlodgeForum@ yahoogroups. com,
> > >> Curt Sprenger wrote:
> > >> >
> > >> > That
is how Southwest Bluebirds and Friends got started. I used CA, UT,
> > >> NV,
> > >> > AZ, placed calls, wrote letters, created the database, etc. Time
> > >> spent...at
> > >> > least 150 hours.
> > >> >
> > >> > Curt Sprenger
> > >> > 1987 PT38 8V92 "MacAttack Racing"
> > >> > Anaheim Hills, CA
> > >> > *Read all about Southwest Bluebirds and Friends (SWBB) at
> > >> > http://www.SOUTHWES T-BLUEBIRDS. ORG ...Then Join us.
> > >> > "Host of the Annual Bluebird Quartzsite Rally" *
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> > On Sat, May 2, 2009 at 8:25 AM, ronmarabito2002 wrote:
> >
>> >
> > >> > >
> > >> > >
> > >> > > Ernie: Since you have time on your hands, you could check with Family
> > >> of
> > >> > > Friends and Vintage Birds to add that information to the list. Time
> > >> > > consuming, but that's what you have. (bg)
> > >> > >
> > >> > > R.E. (Ron) Marabito, Dallas, TX 92WB40
> > >> > >
> > >> > > --- In WanderlodgeForum@ yahoogroups. com
> > >> ,
> > >> > > Ernie Ekberg wrote:
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > George, the list I have from Bluebird lists owners by state and
> > >> their
> > >> >
> address. Unfortunately, no coach data is listed.
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > Ernie Ekberg
> > >> > > > 83PT40
> > >> > > > Wanderlodge
> > >> > > > Weatherford, Tx
> > >> > > > http://autos. groups.yahoo. com/group/ erniesremodeling andrepair
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > --- On Fri, 5/1/09, George Burke wrote:
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > From: George Burke
> > >> > > > Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Your Reply to Another One Gone
> > >> > > > To: WanderlodgeForum@ yahoogroups. com
> > >>

> > >> > > > Date: Friday, May 1, 2009, 11:14 PM
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > Ernie, in your reply concerning the above, you mentioned that about
> > >> 5
> > >> > > years ago you obtained a print out from BB of bird owners that was
> > >> about 2"
> > >> > > thick. Do you remember what other info., other than names that were
> > >> posted?
> > >> > > If it showed the type of Bird, as 1977 FC31 Gas, etc., that would be
> > >> great
> > >> > >
information to know. Some day in the future, as some of you have, I
> > >> would
> > >> > > like to upgrade to a newer and larger Wanderlodge, and that kind of
> > >> info.,
> > >> > > such as how many of each type are out there would be a big help. It
> > >> might
> > >> > > steer me one way or another, as, I might not look for a PT 36, if only
> > >> a
> > >> > > very few were built/and still on the road. I do at present very much
> > >> like
> > >> > > the PT36, and PT38, as well as the SP. And alas, if it was newer than
> > >> 5yrs.
> > >> > > old, I can guarantee you that some else would have to buy it anyway.
> > >> > > Bluebird, the transit and school bus folks, are still making a front
> > >>
engine
> > >> > > body, as well as rear engine transit models. Sure would like to see
> > >> someone
> > >> > > make
> > >> > > > a FC/PT type Wanderlodge again from these bodys. After all, most of
> > >> us
> > >> > > aren't millionares, and after X amount of years, could afford to buy a
> > >> used
> > >> > > one. As I remember, isn't this how Wanderlodge got its start? Regards,
> > >> > > George Burke 1977 FC31 SB GAS Charlotte
> > >> > > >
> > >> > >
> > >> > >
> > >> > >
> > >> >
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >
> > >
> >
>
Quote this message in a reply
05-04-2009, 03:15
Post: #18
Al Scudder
Unregistered
 		 
Your Reply to Another One Gone
Would it be possible that the President of each of these BB clubs be approached to see if they will put out a request to the their own members that thereis a Blue Bird Data Base being put together and that the members can send a email to a central place to make this list. They can then state IF they want thie name to bepublic or private. If the list is to track down as many BB's that are out there then I would think that you would have good participation.

Scooter 2000LX Ocqueoc< MI


To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
From: curtsprenger@...
Date: Sat, 2 May 2009 22:07:08 -0700
Subject: Re: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: Your Reply to Another One Gone




I'll throw this out for thought...

Are WE willing to put upfront dollars, TBD, for some one, or some of us, to work at gathering that information...that's using the latest information list(s) that are available (TBD)?

If I spent 150 hours, probable more, 4 states, and apply hi/low per state, seems like an hour estimate of time would be 1,000 to 1,200 hours, probable more hours, to call, write, etc., chase down, and create a database. Plus there are expenses to do just that. Then there are expenses because some owners only use Snail Mail, postage, and time to keep them informed. I work cheap, others will too, but not for free when it requires dedicated time that this effort requires and the expense to make it happen.

Please present your thoughts to make this work.

Phil & I can request the SWBB database participants grant open information sharing, but the response is TBD.

The FINAL database should respect each participants wishes to protect or share information.

Also, WE need to pay for the dedicated/shared space to store/maintain the information. Someone needs to be in charge for the space, costs, etc.

Site owners, others, please reply.

Curt Sprenger
1987 PT38 8V92 "MacAttack Racing"
Anaheim Hills, CA
Read all about Southwest Bluebirds and Friends (SWBB) at http://www.SOUTHWEST-BLUEBIRDS.ORG ...Then Join us.
"Host of the Annual Bluebird Quartzsite Rally"



On Sat, May 2, 2009 at 1:10 PM, Curt Sprenger <"curtsprenger@gmail.com"> wrote:

Ron,






USE OF PERSONAL INFORMATION. All information maintained in the Southwest Bluebirds and friends database, and/or on a specific rally list, is considered strictly confidential, and is for group use only. Only information regarding a member or rally participant's name, city/state, and RV unit will appear on group and/or rally materials. Personal information (i.e., addresses, phone numbers, email addresses, etc.) will be shared with other group members and/or rally attendees only according to a member's specified preferences. If a member has not declared personal information sharing preferences, none will be divulged to other members unless written permission is given to the group coordinators to do so.


Curt Sprenger
1987 PT38 8V92 "MacAttack Racing"
Anaheim Hills, CA
Read all about Southwest Bluebirds and Friends (SWBB) at http://www.SOUTHWEST-BLUEBIRDS.ORG ...Then Join us.
"Host of the Annual Bluebird Quartzsite Rally"


On Sat, May 2, 2009 at 11:36 AM, ronmarabito2002 <"remarabito@att.net"> wrote:



Curt: You could be a nice guy and offer us that database. I know it takes a lot of time to acquire info like that. Today, that's the only kind of information available.


R.E. (Ron) Marabito, Dallas, TX 92WB40

--- In "WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com", Curt Sprenger ...> wrote:
>
> That is how Southwest Bluebirds and Friends got started. I used CA, UT, NV,
> AZ, placed calls, wrote letters, created the database, etc. Time spent...at
> least 150 hours.
>
> Curt Sprenger
> 1987 PT38 8V92 "MacAttack Racing"
> Anaheim Hills, CA
> *Read all about Southwest Bluebirds and Friends (SWBB) at
> http://www.SOUTHWEST-BLUEBIRDS.ORG ...Then Join us.
> "Host of the Annual Bluebird Quartzsite Rally" *
>
>
>
>
> On Sat, May 2, 2009 at 8:25 AM, ronmarabito2002 ..> wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > Ernie: Since you have time on your hands, you could check with Family of
> > Friends and Vintage Birds to add that information to the list. Time
> > consuming, but that's what you have. (bg)
> >
> > R.E. (Ron) Marabito, Dallas, TX 92WB40
> >
> > --- In "WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com"40yahoogroups.com>,
> > Ernie Ekberg wrote:
> > >
> > > George, the list I have from Bluebird lists owners by state and their
> > address. Unfortunately, no coach data is listed.
> > >
> > >
> > > Ernie Ekberg
> > > 83PT40
> > > Wanderlodge
> > > Weatherford, Tx
> > > http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/erniesremodelingandrepair
> > >
> > > --- On Fri, 5/1/09, George Burke wrote:
> > >
> > > From: George Burke
> > > Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Your Reply to Another One Gone
> > > To: "WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com"40yahoogroups.com>
> > > Date: Friday, May 1, 2009, 11:14 PM
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Ernie, in your reply concerning the above, you mentioned that about 5
> > years ago you obtained a print out from BB of bird owners that was about 2"
> > thick. Do you remember what other info., other than names that were posted?
> > If it showed the type of Bird, as 1977 FC31 Gas, etc., that would be great
> > information to know. Some day in the future, as some of you have, I would
> > like to upgrade to a newer and larger Wanderlodge, and that kind of info.,
> > such as how many of each type are out there would be a big help. It might
> > steer me one way or another, as, I might not look for a PT 36, if only a
> > very few were built/and still on the road. I do at present very much like
> > the PT36, and PT38, as well as the SP. And alas, if it was newer than 5yrs.
> > old, I can guarantee you that some else would have to buy it anyway.
> > Bluebird, the transit and school bus folks, are still making a front engine
> > body, as well as rear engine transit models. Sure would like to see someone
> > make
> > > a FC/PT type Wanderlodge again from these bodys. After all, most of us
> > aren't millionares, and after X amount of years, could afford to buy a used
> > one. As I remember, isn't this how Wanderlodge got its start? Regards,
> > George Burke 1977 FC31 SB GAS Charlotte
> > >
> >
> >
> >
>
Quote this message in a reply
05-04-2009, 03:34
Post: #19
Curt Sprenger
Unregistered
 		 
Your Reply to Another One Gone
Al,

Sounds great. Can you make that happen? The information can be sent to me.  I'll set up and maintain the database, and share the information that give their permission.  
Curt Sprenger

1987 PT38 8V92 "MacAttack Racing"

Anaheim Hills, CA
Read all about Southwest Bluebirds and Friends (SWBB) at http://www.SOUTHWEST-BLUEBIRDS.ORG ...Then Join us.

"Host of the Annual Bluebird Quartzsite Rally"



On Mon, May 4, 2009 at 8:15 AM, Al Scudder <"al_scudder@msn.com"> wrote:






Would it be possible that the President of each of these BB clubs be approached to see if they will put out a request to the their own members that there is a Blue Bird Data Base being put together and that the members can send a email to a central place to make this list. They can then state IF they want thie name to be public or private. If the list is to track down as many BB's that are out there then I would think that you would have good participation.

 
Scooter 2000LX Ocqueoc< MI 
 

To: "WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com"
From: "curtsprenger@gmail.com"
Date: Sat, 2 May 2009 22:07:08 -0700

Subject: Re: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: Your Reply to Another One Gone




I'll throw this out for thought...

Are WE willing to put upfront dollars, TBD, for some one, or some of us, to work at gathering that information...that's using the latest information list(s) that are available (TBD)?


If I spent 150 hours, probable more, 4 states, and apply hi/low per state, seems like an hour estimate of time would be 1,000  to 1,200 hours, probable more hours, to call, write, etc., chase down, and create a database. Plus there are expenses to do just that. Then there are expenses because some owners only use Snail Mail, postage, and time to keep them informed. I work cheap, others will too, but not for free when it requires dedicated time that this effort requires and the expense to make it happen.


Please present your thoughts to make this work.

Phil & I can request the SWBB database participants grant open information sharing, but the response is TBD.

The FINAL database should respect each participants wishes to protect or share information.


Also, WE need to pay for the dedicated/shared space to store/maintain the information. Someone needs to be in charge for the space, costs, etc.

Site owners, others, please reply. 

Curt Sprenger

1987 PT38 8V92 "MacAttack Racing"
Anaheim Hills, CA
Read all about Southwest Bluebirds and Friends (SWBB) at http://www.SOUTHWEST-BLUEBIRDS.ORG ...Then Join us.

"Host of the Annual Bluebird Quartzsite Rally"



On Sat, May 2, 2009 at 1:10 PM, Curt Sprenger <"curtsprenger@gmail.com"> wrote:

Ron,






USE OF PERSONAL INFORMATION.  All information maintained in the Southwest Bluebirds and friends database, and/or on a specific rally list, is considered strictly confidential, and is for group use only.  Only information regarding a member or rally participant's name, city/state, and RV unit will appear on group and/or rally materials.  Personal information (i.e., addresses, phone numbers, email addresses, etc.) will be shared with other group members and/or rally attendees only according to a member's specified preferences.   If a member has not declared personal information sharing preferences, none will be divulged to other members unless written permission is given to the group coordinators to do so.



Curt Sprenger
1987 PT38 8V92 "MacAttack Racing"
Anaheim Hills, CA
Read all about Southwest Bluebirds and Friends (SWBB) at http://www.SOUTHWEST-BLUEBIRDS.ORG ...Then Join us.

"Host of the Annual Bluebird Quartzsite Rally"


On Sat, May 2, 2009 at 11:36 AM, ronmarabito2002 <"remarabito@att.net"> wrote:



Curt: You could be a nice guy and offer us that database. I know it takes a lot of time to acquire info like that. Today, that's the only kind of information available.


R.E. (Ron) Marabito, Dallas, TX 92WB40

--- In "WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com", Curt Sprenger wrote:
>
> That is how Southwest Bluebirds and Friends got started. I used CA, UT, NV,

> AZ, placed calls, wrote letters, created the database, etc. Time spent...at
> least 150 hours.
>
> Curt Sprenger
> 1987 PT38 8V92 "MacAttack Racing"
> Anaheim Hills, CA
> *Read all about Southwest Bluebirds and Friends (SWBB) at

> http://www.SOUTHWEST-BLUEBIRDS.ORG ...Then Join us.
> "Host of the Annual Bluebird Quartzsite Rally" *
>
>
>
>

> On Sat, May 2, 2009 at 8:25 AM, ronmarabito2002 wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > Ernie: Since you have time on your hands, you could check with Family of
> > Friends and Vintage Birds to add that information to the list. Time

> > consuming, but that's what you have. (bg)
> >
> > R.E. (Ron) Marabito, Dallas, TX 92WB40
> >
> > --- In "WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com"40yahoogroups.com>,
> > Ernie Ekberg wrote:
> > >
> > > George, the list I have from Bluebird lists owners by state and their
> > address. Unfortunately, no coach data is listed.

> > >
> > >
> > > Ernie Ekberg
> > > 83PT40
> > > Wanderlodge
> > > Weatherford, Tx
> > > http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/erni...gandrepair

> > >
> > > --- On Fri, 5/1/09, George Burke wrote:
> > >
> > > From: George Burke
> > > Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Your Reply to Another One Gone

> > > To: "WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com"40yahoogroups.com>
> > > Date: Friday, May 1, 2009, 11:14 PM
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Ernie, in your reply concerning the above, you mentioned that about 5

> > years ago you obtained a print out from BB of bird owners that was about 2"
> > thick. Do you remember what other info., other than names that were posted?
> > If it showed the type of Bird, as 1977 FC31 Gas, etc., that would be great

> > information to know. Some day in the future, as some of you have, I would
> > like to upgrade to a newer and larger Wanderlodge, and that kind of info.,
> > such as how many of each type are out there would be a big help. It might

> > steer me one way or another, as, I might not look for a PT 36, if only a
> > very few were built/and still on the road. I do at present very much like
> > the PT36, and PT38, as well as the SP. And alas, if it was newer than 5yrs.

> > old, I can guarantee you that some else would have to buy it anyway.
> > Bluebird, the transit and school bus folks, are still making a front engine
> > body, as well as rear engine transit models. Sure would like to see someone

> > make
> > > a FC/PT type Wanderlodge again from these bodys. After all, most of us
> > aren't millionares, and after X amount of years, could afford to buy a used
> > one. As I remember, isn't this how Wanderlodge got its start? Regards,

> > George Burke 1977 FC31 SB GAS Charlotte
> > >
> >
> >
> >
>
Quote this message in a reply
05-04-2009, 03:47
Post: #20
Curt Sprenger
Unregistered
 		 
Your Reply to Another One Gone
Information Sharing...Use 1 or 2 or 3 or 4, or a combination.

1 - Name Only.
2 - Name & Email Address.
3 - Name, Email Address & Phone Numbers.

4 - Person maintaining the database receives request and forwards to database member.
 
Curt Sprenger
1987 PT38 8V92 "MacAttack Racing"
Anaheim Hills, CA
Read all about Southwest Bluebirds and Friends (SWBB) at http://www.SOUTHWEST-BLUEBIRDS.ORG ...Then Join us.

"Host of the Annual Bluebird Quartzsite Rally"



On Mon, May 4, 2009 at 8:34 AM, Curt Sprenger <"curtsprenger@gmail.com"> wrote:
Al,

Sounds great. Can you make that happen? The information can be sent to me.  I'll set up and maintain the database, and share the information that give their permission.  
Curt Sprenger

1987 PT38 8V92 "MacAttack Racing"

Anaheim Hills, CA
Read all about Southwest Bluebirds and Friends (SWBB) at http://www.SOUTHWEST-BLUEBIRDS.ORG ...Then Join us.

"Host of the Annual Bluebird Quartzsite Rally"



On Mon, May 4, 2009 at 8:15 AM, Al Scudder <"al_scudder@msn.com"> wrote:







Would it be possible that the President of each of these BB clubs be approached to see if they will put out a request to the their own members that there is a Blue Bird Data Base being put together and that the members can send a email to a central place to make this list. They can then state IF they want thie name to be public or private. If the list is to track down as many BB's that are out there then I would think that you would have good participation.

 
Scooter 2000LX Ocqueoc< MI 
 

To: "WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com"
From: "curtsprenger@gmail.com"
Date: Sat, 2 May 2009 22:07:08 -0700

Subject: Re: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: Your Reply to Another One Gone




I'll throw this out for thought...

Are WE willing to put upfront dollars, TBD, for some one, or some of us, to work at gathering that information...that's using the latest information list(s) that are available (TBD)?


If I spent 150 hours, probable more, 4 states, and apply hi/low per state, seems like an hour estimate of time would be 1,000  to 1,200 hours, probable more hours, to call, write, etc., chase down, and create a database. Plus there are expenses to do just that. Then there are expenses because some owners only use Snail Mail, postage, and time to keep them informed. I work cheap, others will too, but not for free when it requires dedicated time that this effort requires and the expense to make it happen.


Please present your thoughts to make this work.

Phil & I can request the SWBB database participants grant open information sharing, but the response is TBD.

The FINAL database should respect each participants wishes to protect or share information.


Also, WE need to pay for the dedicated/shared space to store/maintain the information. Someone needs to be in charge for the space, costs, etc.

Site owners, others, please reply. 

Curt Sprenger

1987 PT38 8V92 "MacAttack Racing"
Anaheim Hills, CA
Read all about Southwest Bluebirds and Friends (SWBB) at http://www.SOUTHWEST-BLUEBIRDS.ORG ...Then Join us.

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On Sat, May 2, 2009 at 1:10 PM, Curt Sprenger <"curtsprenger@gmail.com"> wrote:

Ron,






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Curt Sprenger
1987 PT38 8V92 "MacAttack Racing"
Anaheim Hills, CA
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"Host of the Annual Bluebird Quartzsite Rally"


On Sat, May 2, 2009 at 11:36 AM, ronmarabito2002 <"remarabito@att.net"> wrote:



Curt: You could be a nice guy and offer us that database. I know it takes a lot of time to acquire info like that. Today, that's the only kind of information available.


R.E. (Ron) Marabito, Dallas, TX 92WB40

--- In "WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com", Curt Sprenger wrote:
>
> That is how Southwest Bluebirds and Friends got started. I used CA, UT, NV,

> AZ, placed calls, wrote letters, created the database, etc. Time spent...at
> least 150 hours.
>
> Curt Sprenger
> 1987 PT38 8V92 "MacAttack Racing"
> Anaheim Hills, CA
> *Read all about Southwest Bluebirds and Friends (SWBB) at

> http://www.SOUTHWEST-BLUEBIRDS.ORG ...Then Join us.
> "Host of the Annual Bluebird Quartzsite Rally" *
>
>
>

>

> On Sat, May 2, 2009 at 8:25 AM, ronmarabito2002 wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > Ernie: Since you have time on your hands, you could check with Family of
> > Friends and Vintage Birds to add that information to the list. Time

> > consuming, but that's what you have. (bg)
> >
> > R.E. (Ron) Marabito, Dallas, TX 92WB40
> >
> > --- In "WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com"40yahoogroups.com>,
> > Ernie Ekberg wrote:
> > >
> > > George, the list I have from Bluebird lists owners by state and their
> > address. Unfortunately, no coach data is listed.

> > >
> > >
> > > Ernie Ekberg
> > > 83PT40
> > > Wanderlodge
> > > Weatherford, Tx
> > > http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/erni...gandrepair

> > >
> > > --- On Fri, 5/1/09, George Burke wrote:
> > >
> > > From: George Burke
> > > Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Your Reply to Another One Gone

> > > To: "WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com"40yahoogroups.com>
> > > Date: Friday, May 1, 2009, 11:14 PM
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Ernie, in your reply concerning the above, you mentioned that about 5

> > years ago you obtained a print out from BB of bird owners that was about 2"
> > thick. Do you remember what other info., other than names that were posted?
> > If it showed the type of Bird, as 1977 FC31 Gas, etc., that would be great

> > information to know. Some day in the future, as some of you have, I would
> > like to upgrade to a newer and larger Wanderlodge, and that kind of info.,
> > such as how many of each type are out there would be a big help. It might

> > steer me one way or another, as, I might not look for a PT 36, if only a
> > very few were built/and still on the road. I do at present very much like
> > the PT36, and PT38, as well as the SP. And alas, if it was newer than 5yrs.

> > old, I can guarantee you that some else would have to buy it anyway.
> > Bluebird, the transit and school bus folks, are still making a front engine
> > body, as well as rear engine transit models. Sure would like to see someone

> > make
> > > a FC/PT type Wanderlodge again from these bodys. After all, most of us
> > aren't millionares, and after X amount of years, could afford to buy a used
> > one. As I remember, isn't this how Wanderlodge got its start? Regards,

> > George Burke 1977 FC31 SB GAS Charlotte
> > >
> >
> >
> >
>
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