Filters

[freewill2008]

I recently searched the Web for research on filter quality. There are many such
projects out there. Most reached the same conclusions about which filter makers
are OK. Bottom line: Filters made by Wix are well made and consistently
reliable. None of the Wix fiters were found to be unacceptable. In all cases, a
better filter than Wix could be found, but usually at a much higher price. In
general the high-end filters did not do a better job, but would keep doing the
job longer. For folks who do frequent oil changes the high-priced filters
seemed to offer little advantage over Wix-built filters.

Napa and Carquest filters are the same filters as those sold under the Wix brand
name.

I did not learn who makes filters for Cat, DD, or Cummins - but the filters
currently sold by Honda were reported to be junk.

I'm just repeating what was said on the Web sites. For more detail, the
information is easy to find on the Web.

Bob Griesel '84 FC31 WLII WA

--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "patticake592000" <sgureasko@...>
wrote:
>
> Since the subject of filters has come up, I would like to add some
> fuel to that fire.
> Not all filters are of the same quality.
> In a past job, I had the opportunity to purchase several different
> brands of the same part number filter, and one of the salesmen said
> to cut them open(new) and compare. You would very surprised at the
> difference in manufacture. I now buy, no let me rephrase that, I now
> don't buy certain brand name filters, as their quality leaves alot to
> be desired.
> Many years ago, I had to go to court because a certain oil filter
> did not do it's job on a vehicle that was under warranty(the owner
> changed his own oil), and the engine locked up. The oil was still clean
> but the filter was dry. Meaning nothing passed through it.
>
> Steve Gureasko
> 90WBWL401/2 Jus Chillin
> Ponchatoula, La.
>

[Ernie Ekberg]

How do Donaldson filters compare? Ernie Ekberg=El Paso, Tx 83PT40 Wanderlodge Weatherford, Tx <SKYPE><SKYPE><SKYPE><SKYPE><SKYPE><SKYPE>81...<SKYPE> http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/erni...gandrepair --- On Sun, 8/2/09, freewill2008 wrote: From: freewill2008 Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: Filters To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com Date: Sunday, August 2, 2009, 7:32 PM I recently searched the Web for research on filter quality. There are many such projects out there. Most reached the same conclusions about which filter makers are OK. Bottom line: Filters made by Wix are well made and consistently reliable. None of the Wix fiters were found to be unacceptable. In all cases, a better filter than Wix could be found, but usually at a much higher price. In general the high-end filters did not do a better job, but would keep doing the job longer. For folks who do frequent oil changes the high-priced filters seemed to offer little advantage over Wix-built filters. Napa and Carquest filters are the same filters as those sold under the Wix brand name. I did not learn who makes filters for Cat, DD, or Cummins - but the filters currently sold by Honda were reported to be junk. I'm just repeating what was said on the Web sites. For more detail, the information is easy to find on the Web. Bob Griesel '84 FC31 WLII WA --- In WanderlodgeForum@ yahoogroups. com, "patticake592000" <sgureasko@. ..> wrote: > > Since the subject of filters has come up, I would like to add some > fuel to that fire. > Not all filters are of the same quality. > In a past job, I had the opportunity to purchase several different > brands of the same part number filter, and one of the salesmen said > to cut them open(new) and compare. You would very surprised at the > difference in manufacture. I now buy, no let me rephrase that, I now > don't buy certain brand name filters, as their quality leaves alot to > be desired. > Many years ago, I had to go to court because a certain oil filter > did not do it's job on a vehicle that was under warranty(the owner > changed his own oil), and the engine locked up. The oil was still clean > but the filter was dry. Meaning nothing passed through it. > > Steve Gureasko > 90WBWL401/2 Jus Chillin > Ponchatoula, La. >

[Pete Masterson]

So, what brand don't you buy?

Pete Masterson

'95 Blue Bird Wanderlodge WBDA 42

El Sobrante CA

"aeonix1@mac.com"

On Aug 2, 2009, at 4:16 PM, patticake592000 wrote:

Since the subject of filters has come up, I would like to add some
fuel to that fire.
Not all filters are of the same quality.
<snip> I now buy, no let me rephrase that, I now
don't buy certain brand name filters, as their quality leaves alot to
be desired.
<snip>

[Pete Masterson]

Donaldson is the OEM for a lot of filters. They're one of the major manufacturers.

Pete Masterson

'95 Blue Bird Wanderlodge WBDA 42

El Sobrante CA

"aeonix1@mac.com"

On Aug 2, 2009, at 6:11 PM, Ernie Ekberg wrote:

How do Donaldson filters compare? Ernie Ekberg=El Paso, Tx 83PT40 Wanderlodge Weatherford, Tx<skype><skype><skype><skype><skype><skype>81...<skype> http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/erni...gandrepair --- OnSun, 8/2/09, freewill2008<"sundance101@comcast.net">wrote: From: freewill2008 <"sundance101@comcast.net"> Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: Filters To:"WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com" Date: Sunday, August 2, 2009, 7:32 PM I recently searched the Web for research on filter quality. There are many such projects out there. Most reached the same conclusions about which filter makers are OK. Bottom line: Filters made by Wix are well made and consistently reliable. None of the Wix fiters were found to be unacceptable. In all cases, a better filter than Wix could be found, but usually at a much higher price. In general the high-end filters did not do a better job, but would keep doing the job longer. For folks who do frequent oil changes the high-priced filters seemed to offer little advantage over Wix-built filters. Napa and Carquest filters are the same filters as those sold under the Wix brand name. I did not learn who makes filters for Cat, DD, or Cummins - but the filters currently sold by Honda were reported to be junk. I'm just repeating what was said on the Web sites. For more detail, the information is easy to find on the Web. Bob Griesel '84 FC31 WLII WA --- InWanderlodgeForum@ yahoogroups. com, "patticake592000" <sgureasko@. ..> wrote: > > Since the subject of filters has come up, I would like to add some > fuel to that fire. > Not all filters are of the same quality. > In a past job, I had the opportunity to purchase several different > brands of the same part number filter, and one of the salesmen said > to cut them open(new) and compare. You would very surprised at the > difference in manufacture. I now buy, no let me rephrase that, I now > don't buy certain brand name filters, as their quality leaves alot to > be desired. > Many years ago, I had to go to court because a certain oil filter > did not do it's job on a vehicle that was under warranty(the owner > changed his own oil), and the engine locked up. The oil was still clean > but the filter was dry. Meaning nothing passed through it. > > Steve Gureasko > 90WBWL401/2 Jus Chillin > Ponchatoula, La. >

[patticake592000]

As others have said,WIX(and NAPA), and Donaldson are the main good
ones. They are made by the same co. and the same quality. GM and
Motorcraft also are good(remember DD is a GM product).
If you want the bottom feeders, email me off line(To many lawyers out
there). If you have my no. call, also.

Steve Gureasko
90WBWL401/2 Jus Chillin
Ponchatoula, La.

[birdshill123]

The world of filters is dark and mysterious. Motocraft do not make any filters.
They are likely made by Champion labs ( not spark plugs) Champion makes a lot of
OEM filters, even for GM. Cat makes their own filters and they are very high
quality. Unfortunately they stopped making filters for the legacy engines (
3208) and those appear to be Wix. Cummins Filtration ( Fleetguard) make some of
the finest filters on the market. There is more to a filter than the media. The
bypass valves and how they are mounted is important. Diesels tend to have higher
oil pressures than gas engines so the thickness of the "can" and the way the can
is attached to the flange is important. Some Cat filters have die cast flanges!!
Way stronger than stamped sheet metal. Not every filter mfr. makes every filter
in their catalog. Some of the less popular #'s will come from: Wix, Champion,
Luberfiner and others. Just painted a different color! Donalson is often OEM for
air filters on trucks and they also make the filter housings. There is one
strict rule to follow: Do not abuse your power plant with a Fram filter!! JUNK

Bruce
88 Wanderlodge