Best engine

[oneoutlaw45]

what would be better? a 391 ford industrial or cat3802? still looking to buy a
bird and need to get a feel on what engine is better. pro's an con's will be
helpful. thanks all.

JW

[gregoryoconnor]

no pros, I think they both do the job intended and there is little difference
between 25 mph climb and 20 mph climb. The in motion Satellite was invented by a
guy with an FC. I know of a gasser in Orange county 'no smoking','no domestic
pets'

Greg of Tim&Greg
94ptca

--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "oneoutlaw45" wrote:
>
> what would be better? a 391 ford industrial or cat3802? still looking to buy a
bird and need to get a feel on what engine is better. pro's an con's will be
helpful. thanks all.
>
> JW
>

[R E BRAKE]

I feel the cat is a much better engine, I feel the 391 is underpowered RE --- On Mon, 8/31/09, oneoutlaw45 wrote: From: oneoutlaw45 Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Best engine To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com Date: Monday, August 31, 2009, 4:59 PM what would be better? a 391 ford industrial or cat3802? still looking to buy a bird and need to get a feel on what engine is better. pro's an con's will be helpful. thanks all. JW

[Dorn Hetzel]

I like my 3208.  Despite the fact that some folks consider them "throwaway" diesels because they aren't lined.

Sure, it's underpowered for the bus, but it's got me up over a mile of 22+% grade, albeit at 9mph or so


Dorn Hetzel
77FC35
Hogansville, GA

On Tue, Sep 1, 2009 at 7:21 AM, R E BRAKE <"putneyflash@bellsouth.net"> wrote:

 

I feel the cat is a much better engine, I feel the 391 is underpowered RE --- On Mon, 8/31/09, oneoutlaw45 <"eagleworks@jonav.net"> wrote: From: oneoutlaw45 <"eagleworks@jonav.net"> Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Best engine To: "WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com" Date: Monday, August 31, 2009, 4:59 PM   what would be better? a 391 ford industrial or cat3802? still looking to buy a bird and need to get a feel on what engine is better. pro's an con's will be helpful. thanks all. JW

[R E BRAKE]

3208 can be overhaul, and cat still sells a remanufactured engine. is RE --- On Tue, 9/1/09, Dorn Hetzel wrote: From: Dorn Hetzel Subject: Re: [WanderlodgeForum] Best engine To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com Date: Tuesday, September 1, 2009, 7:26 AM I like my 3208. Despite the fact that some folks consider them "throwaway" diesels because they aren't lined. Sure, it's underpowered for the bus, but it's got me up over a mile of 22+% grade, albeit at 9mph or so Dorn Hetzel 77FC35 Hogansville, GA On Tue, Sep 1, 2009 at 7:21 AM, R E BRAKE <putneyflash@ bellsouth. net> wrote: I feel the cat is a much better engine, I feel the 391 is underpowered RE --- On Mon, 8/31/09, oneoutlaw45 <eagleworks@jonav. net> wrote: From: oneoutlaw45 <eagleworks@jonav. net> Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Best engine To: WanderlodgeForum@ yahoogroups. com Date: Monday, August 31, 2009, 4:59 PM what would be better? a 391 ford industrial or cat3802? still looking to buy a bird and need to get a feel on what engine is better. pro's an con's will be helpful. thanks all. JW

[Bernard Haag]

your diesel is the better engine for the power and fuel economy, I will be looking to maybe sell my 95 42ft email me if your interested in some pics....brand new engine with 12 months 100k warrenty and she has a 60 series detroit

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From: oneoutlaw45
To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, August 31, 2009 2:59:28
PM
Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Best engine

what would be better? a 391 ford industrial or cat3802? still looking to buy a bird and need to get a feel on what engine is better. pro's an con's will be helpful. thanks all.



JW

[Dorn Hetzel]

We got a good solid 8.9mpg on my last long (5000+ mile) trip out to Arizona and back.  For a 35ft 27000lb bus, that seems pretty respectable.

Dorn Hetzel
77FC35
Flat Creek Campground, Hogansville, GA

On Tue, Sep 1, 2009 at 8:34 AM, Bernard Haag <"bhaagrealtor@yahoo.com"> wrote:

 

your diesel is the better engine for the power and fuel economy, I will be looking to maybe sell my 95 42ft email me if your interested in some pics....brand new engine with 12 months 100k warrenty and she has a 60 series detroit

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From: oneoutlaw45 <"eagleworks@jonav.net">

To: "WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com"

Sent: Monday, August 31, 2009 2:59:28
PM
Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Best engine

 

what would be better? a 391 ford industrial or cat3802? still looking to buy a bird and need to get a feel on what engine is better. pro's an con's will be helpful. thanks all.



JW

[rtpn60]

Dorn, you came all the way out to Arizona and didn't stop by to say "Hi"??? hee
hee hee

Diesel over Gas ANYDAY! I have both a '63 Bluebird conversion and my '78
Wanderlodge. The '63 conversion came with the GMC401 v6 gas industrial engine.
I will admit, it was as powerful as the na3208 CAT engine is. BUT, it also had
points, plugs, plug wires, carburater, and if it sat too long would get gummed
up. The diesel can sit for years and then start on the 2nd crank! The 3208 CAT
is rebuild just like a normal gas engine, you bore it out and put in new rings.

Michael Putz
Mesa, Az
78FC35 Wanderlodge
63FC35 Bluebird Conversion

--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, Dorn Hetzel wrote:
>
> We got a good solid 8.9mpg on my last long (5000+ mile) trip out to Arizona
> and back. For a 35ft 27000lb bus, that seems pretty respectable.
>
> Dorn Hetzel
> 77FC35
> Flat Creek Campground, Hogansville, GA
>
> On Tue, Sep 1, 2009 at 8:34 AM, Bernard Haag <bhaagrealtor@...> wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > your diesel is the better engine for the power and fuel economy, I will be
> > looking to maybe sell my 95 42ft email me if your interested in some
> > pics....brand new engine with 12 months 100k warrenty and she has a 60
> > series detroit
> >
> > ------------------------------
> > *From:* oneoutlaw45
> > *To:* WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
> > *Sent:* Monday, August 31, 2009 2:59:28 PM
> > *Subject:* [WanderlodgeForum] Best engine
> >
> >
> >
> > what would be better? a 391 ford industrial or cat3802? still looking to
> > buy a bird and need to get a feel on what engine is better. pro's an con's
> > will be helpful. thanks all.
> >
> > JW
> >
> >
> >
>

[rtpn60]

Oh Geez.. forgot the best part!

78FC35 3208 CAT = 7-8mpg
63FC35 401 GMC = 4-5mpg

That alone sold me!

--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "rtpn60" <mike.putz@...> wrote:
>
> Dorn, you came all the way out to Arizona and didn't stop by to say "Hi"???
hee hee hee
>
> Diesel over Gas ANYDAY! I have both a '63 Bluebird conversion and my '78
Wanderlodge. The '63 conversion came with the GMC401 v6 gas industrial engine.
I will admit, it was as powerful as the na3208 CAT engine is. BUT, it also had
points, plugs, plug wires, carburater, and if it sat too long would get gummed
up. The diesel can sit for years and then start on the 2nd crank! The 3208 CAT
is rebuild just like a normal gas engine, you bore it out and put in new rings.
>
> Michael Putz
> Mesa, Az
> 78FC35 Wanderlodge
> 63FC35 Bluebird Conversion
>
> --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, Dorn Hetzel wrote:
> >
> > We got a good solid 8.9mpg on my last long (5000+ mile) trip out to Arizona
> > and back. For a 35ft 27000lb bus, that seems pretty respectable.
> >
> > Dorn Hetzel
> > 77FC35
> > Flat Creek Campground, Hogansville, GA
> >
> > On Tue, Sep 1, 2009 at 8:34 AM, Bernard Haag <bhaagrealtor@> wrote:
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > your diesel is the better engine for the power and fuel economy, I will be
> > > looking to maybe sell my 95 42ft email me if your interested in some
> > > pics....brand new engine with 12 months 100k warrenty and she has a 60
> > > series detroit
> > >
> > > ------------------------------
> > > *From:* oneoutlaw45
> > > *To:* WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
> > > *Sent:* Monday, August 31, 2009 2:59:28 PM
> > > *Subject:* [WanderlodgeForum] Best engine
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > what would be better? a 391 ford industrial or cat3802? still looking to
> > > buy a bird and need to get a feel on what engine is better. pro's an con's
> > > will be helpful. thanks all.
> > >
> > > JW
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
>

[Dorn Hetzel]

My apologies, it was a take-the-kids-to-visit-the-in-laws-over-the-holidays trip with a crazed schedule, 5000 miles in 10 days including stops

I am definitely a diesel fan.  My 77FC35, a 99F350 7.3l diesel, a 2002 Jetta TDI, a 2004 Jetta TDI, a 2003 Kubota diesel tractor, 2001 Kubota diesel excavator and a huge old single cylinder stationary diesel from India for a tinkering project. The only things I own with gas engines are a lawnmower and a wheedwhacker and a chainsaw, and I would probably have those in diesel if it had been an option



Dorn Hetzel
77FC35
Hogansville, GA

On Tue, Sep 1, 2009 at 10:29 AM, rtpn60 <"mike.putz@cox.net"> wrote:

 

Dorn, you came all the way out to Arizona and didn't stop by to say "Hi"??? hee hee hee



Diesel over Gas ANYDAY! I have both a '63 Bluebird conversion and my '78 Wanderlodge. The '63 conversion came with the GMC401 v6 gas industrial engine. I will admit, it was as powerful as the na3208 CAT engine is. BUT, it also had points, plugs, plug wires, carburater, and if it sat too long would get gummed up. The diesel can sit for years and then start on the 2nd crank! The 3208 CAT is rebuild just like a normal gas engine, you bore it out and put in new rings.



Michael Putz

Mesa, Az

78FC35 Wanderlodge

63FC35 Bluebird Conversion

--- In "WanderlodgeForum%40yahoogroups.com", Dorn Hetzel wrote:

>

> We got a good solid 8.9mpg on my last long (5000+ mile) trip out to Arizona

> and back. For a 35ft 27000lb bus, that seems pretty respectable.

>

> Dorn Hetzel

> 77FC35

> Flat Creek Campground, Hogansville, GA

>

> On Tue, Sep 1, 2009 at 8:34 AM, Bernard Haag <bhaagrealtor@...> wrote:

>

> >

> >

> > your diesel is the better engine for the power and fuel economy, I will be

> > looking to maybe sell my 95 42ft email me if your interested in some

> > pics....brand new engine with 12 months 100k warrenty and she has a 60

> > series detroit

> >

> > ------------------------------

> > *From:* oneoutlaw45

> > *To:* "WanderlodgeForum%40yahoogroups.com"

> > *Sent:* Monday, August 31, 2009 2:59:28 PM

> > *Subject:* [WanderlodgeForum] Best engine

> >

> >

> >

> > what would be better? a 391 ford industrial or cat3802? still looking to

> > buy a bird and need to get a feel on what engine is better. pro's an con's

> > will be helpful. thanks all.

> >

> > JW

> >

> >

> >

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