Sluggish 8V92

[Ernie E]

--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, Joe Garner wrote:
>
> Might be better off looking into an upgrade. I know DD had kits for 1>2
> and 2>3, but not sure whats involved or if its worth it.
> Also, at least for DDEC2 there where several versions of software. I
> havent been able to find out for sure, but I think the latest is .151...
> Does anyone know about this stuff? It would be nice to have a DDEC manual
> too ;}
>
>
> /Joe
> 8v92, mechanical!
Joe- what year coach do you have that is 8v92 mechanical?
Ernie- 8v92 Mechanical- 88 narrow body
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>
>
> On Sun, Dec 2, 2012 at 7:08 AM, Wilhelmus Schreurs
> wrote:
>
> > **
> >
> >
> > Jerry:
> > Thanks for keeping us updated.
> >
> > Sounds like it might be worthwhile to find a DDEC for my coach.
> >
> > Bill
> > **1988 40WB XXV "Anniversary Special Edition"
> > Kitimat, B.C. Canada eh
> >
> >
> >
>

[Joe Garner]

Hi Ernie,

Ive got an 87. 

Im interested in this though, as I hope to upgrade sometime to a early 90's model that would have the DDEC.
In light of that I bought on ebay a DDEC reader with cartridge.  No way to test it though!


Still looking for DDEC manuals too.  They are pretty pricey on ebay ;}  I have a 8v92 mechanical manual...


/Joe

On Sun, Dec 2, 2012 at 11:06 AM, Ernie E <"ernietex@yahoo.com"> wrote:

 

--- In "WanderlodgeForum%40yahoogroups.com", Joe Garner wrote:

>

> Might be better off looking into an upgrade. I know DD had kits for 1>2

> and 2>3, but not sure whats involved or if its worth it.

> Also, at least for DDEC2 there where several versions of software. I

> havent been able to find out for sure, but I think the latest is .151...

> Does anyone know about this stuff? It would be nice to have a DDEC manual

> too ;}

>

>

> /Joe

> 8v92, mechanical!

Joe- what year coach do you have that is 8v92 mechanical?

Ernie- 8v92 Mechanical- 88 narrow body

>

>

>

> On Sun, Dec 2, 2012 at 7:08 AM, Wilhelmus Schreurs

> wrote:

>

> > **

> >

> >

> > Jerry:

> > Thanks for keeping us updated.

> >

> > Sounds like it might be worthwhile to find a DDEC for my coach.

> >

> > Bill

> > **1988 40WB XXV "Anniversary Special Edition"

> > Kitimat, B.C. Canada eh

> >

> >

> >

>

[James Q Riordan Jr]

Interesting. I have an 88 xxv wbwl it has an 86 Detroit 8v92 with a DDEC. You must have an older engine. Bluebird must have bought several at a time and put them on a rack until they had a bus to put them in.

I went to my Detroit dealer for some help with codes. They didn't (at first) have a reader for the ddec ( too old). When they got it together? They were still unable to interpret and isolate the problem. Code was injector firing late. The coach runs fine and the code show up only when I let off the accelerator pedal.

Thanks,

Jim Riordan

On Dec 2, 2012, at 1:28 PM, Joe Garner <"jgarner@dslextreme.com"> wrote:

Hi Ernie,

Ive got an 87.

Im interested in this though, as I hope to upgrade sometime to a early 90's model that would have the DDEC.
In light of that I bought on ebay a DDEC reader with cartridge. No way to test it though!


Still looking for DDEC manuals too. They are pretty pricey on ebay ;} I have a 8v92 mechanical manual...


/Joe

On Sun, Dec 2, 2012 at 11:06 AM, Ernie E <"ernietex@yahoo.com"> wrote:

--- In "WanderlodgeForum%40yahoogroups.com", Joe Garner wrote:

>

> Might be better off looking into an upgrade. I know DD had kits for 1>2

> and 2>3, but not sure whats involved or if its worth it.

> Also, at least for DDEC2 there where several versions of software. I

> havent been able to find out for sure, but I think the latest is .151...

> Does anyone know about this stuff? It would be nice to have a DDEC manual

> too ;}

>

>

> /Joe

> 8v92, mechanical!

Joe- what year coach do you have that is 8v92 mechanical?

Ernie- 8v92 Mechanical- 88 narrow body

>

>

>

> On Sun, Dec 2, 2012 at 7:08 AM, Wilhelmus Schreurs

> wrote:

>

> > **

> >

> >

> > Jerry:

> > Thanks for keeping us updated.

> >

> > Sounds like it might be worthwhile to find a DDEC for my coach.

> >

> > Bill

> > **1988 40WB XXV "Anniversary Special Edition"

> > Kitimat, B.C. Canada eh

> >

> >

> >

>

[Wilhelmus Schreurs]

Jim: Interesting that you say that. When I am coasting, the check engine light comes on, and it is the throttle sensor, but it never stays on for long other than going down hill. Bill 1988 40WB XXV "Anniversary Special Edition" Kitimat, B.C. Canada eh

[James Q Riordan Jr]

We have the same bus. When this happens I check the codes and I find the codes as previous. Mmm throttle sensor

Thanks,

Jim Riordan

On Dec 3, 2012, at 9:18 AM, Wilhelmus Schreurs <"tulipvendor50@yahoo.ca"> wrote:

Jim: Interesting that you say that. When I am coasting, the check engine light comes on, and it is the throttle sensor, but it never stays on for long other than going down hill. Bill 1988 40WB XXV "Anniversary Special Edition" Kitimat, B.C. Canada eh

[Jerry]

The "DDEC" I purchased is for the "series 60" engine. The company I purchased
it from is programing it for the 8V92.

The tech working on the engine is skeptical, saying he hasn't had any luck using
the series 60's DDEC on an 8V92. He claims there are always some little
issues/glitches that pop up.

The company I purchased this from assures me, and guarantees, that it will work.
This just keeps getting more interesting.

--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, Joe Garner wrote:
>
> Might be better off looking into an upgrade. I know DD had kits for 1>2
> and 2>3, but not sure whats involved or if its worth it.
> Also, at least for DDEC2 there where several versions of software. I
> havent been able to find out for sure, but I think the latest is .151...
> Does anyone know about this stuff? It would be nice to have a DDEC manual
> too ;}
>
>
> /Joe
> 8v92, mechanical!
>
>
>
> On Sun, Dec 2, 2012 at 7:08 AM, Wilhelmus Schreurs
> wrote:
>
> > **
> >
> >
> > Jerry:
> > Thanks for keeping us updated.
> >
> > Sounds like it might be worthwhile to find a DDEC for my coach.
> >
> > Bill
> > **1988 40WB XXV "Anniversary Special Edition"
> > Kitimat, B.C. Canada eh
> >
> >
> >
>

[Julian Cane]

From all the "sluggish Detroits" that have been posted, am I correct in thinking that is best to have a Cummins???????????? thank you for our advice..........Julian

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From: Jerry
To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, December 3, 2012 5:52 PM
Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: Sluggish 8V92

The "DDEC" I purchased is for the "series 60" engine. The company I purchased it from is programing it for the 8V92.



The tech working on the engine is skeptical, saying he hasn't had any luck using the series 60's DDEC on an 8V92. He claims there are always some little issues/glitches that pop up.



The company I purchased this from assures me, and guarantees, that it will work. This just keeps getting more interesting.



--- In "WanderlodgeForum%40yahoogroups.com", Joe Garner wrote:

>

> Might be better off looking into an upgrade. I know DD had kits for 1>2

> and 2>3, but not sure whats involved or if its worth it.

> Also, at least for DDEC2 there where several versions of software. I

> havent been able to find out for sure, but I think the latest is .151...

> Does anyone know about this stuff? It would be nice to have a DDEC manual

> too ;}

>

>

> /Joe

> 8v92, mechanical!

>

>

>

> On Sun, Dec 2, 2012 at 7:08 AM, Wilhelmus Schreurs

> wrote:

>

> > **

> >

> >

> > Jerry:

> > Thanks for keeping us updated.

> >

> > Sounds like it might be worthwhile to find a DDEC for my coach.

> >

> > Bill

> > **1988 40WB XXV "Anniversary Special Edition"

> > Kitimat, B.C. Canada eh

> >

> >

> >

>

[Markus Meyer]

Best for what? None will win any drag race!



Thanks,

Markus



-----Original Message-----



From: Julian Cane

Sent: 4 Dec 2012 22:50:39 GMT

To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com

Subject: Re: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: Sluggish 8V92

From all the "sluggish Detroits" that have been posted, am I correct in thinking that is best to have a Cummins???????????? thank you for our advice..........Julian

---

From: Jerry

To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com


Sent: Monday, December 3, 2012 5:52 PM

Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: Sluggish 8V92

The "DDEC" I purchased is for the "series 60" engine. The company I purchased it from is programing it for the 8V92.




The tech working on the engine is skeptical, saying he hasn't had any luck using the series 60's DDEC on an 8V92. He claims there are always some little issues/glitches that pop up.




The company I purchased this from assures me, and guarantees, that it will work. This just keeps getting more interesting.



--- In
WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, Joe Garner wrote:

>

> Might be better off looking into an upgrade. I know DD had kits for 1>2

> and 2>3, but not sure whats involved or if its worth it.

> Also, at least for DDEC2 there where several versions of software. I

> havent been able to find out for sure, but I think the latest is .151...

> Does anyone know about this stuff? It would be nice to have a DDEC manual

> too ;}

>

>

> /Joe

> 8v92, mechanical!

>

>

>

> On Sun, Dec 2, 2012 at 7:08 AM, Wilhelmus Schreurs

> wrote:

>

> > **

> >

> >

> > Jerry:

> > Thanks for keeping us updated.

> >

> > Sounds like it might be worthwhile to find a DDEC for my coach.

> >

> > Bill

> > **1988 40WB XXV "Anniversary Special Edition"

> > Kitimat, B.C. Canada eh

> >

> >

> >

>

[Ernie Ekberg]

Years ago- before most of you that have these coaches, the old saying was "if you need to be there fast- you should have left yesterday"

Ernie Ekberg

88 PT40 Wanderlodge

Weatherford, Texas

817-475-3991

http://www.ernieekbergflooring.net/

From: Markus Meyer
To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, December 4, 2012 5:10 PM
Subject: Re: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: Sluggish 8V92

Best for what? None will win any drag race!

Thanks,
Markus

-----Original Message-----

From: Julian Cane
Sent: 4 Dec 2012 22:50:39 GMT
To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: Sluggish 8V92

From all the "sluggish Detroits" that have been posted, am I correct in thinking that is best to have a Cummins???????????? thank you for our advice..........Julian

From: Jerry

To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com


Sent: Monday, December 3, 2012 5:52 PM

Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: Sluggish 8V92

The "DDEC" I purchased is for the "series 60" engine. The company I purchased it from is programing it for the 8V92.


The tech working on the engine is skeptical, saying he hasn't had any luck using the series 60's DDEC on an 8V92. He claims there are always some little issues/glitches that pop up.


The company I purchased this from assures me, and guarantees, that it will work. This just keeps getting more interesting.

--- In "WanderlodgeForum%40yahoogroups.com", Joe Garner wrote:
>
> Might be better off looking into an upgrade. I know DD had kits for 1>2
> and 2>3, but not sure whats involved or if its worth it.
> Also, at least for DDEC2 there where several versions of software. I
> havent been able to find out for sure, but I think the latest is .151...
> Does anyone know about this stuff? It would be nice to have a DDEC manual
> too ;}
>
>
> /Joe
> 8v92, mechanical!
>
>
>
> On Sun, Dec 2, 2012 at 7:08 AM, Wilhelmus Schreurs
> wrote:
>
> > **
> >
> >
> > Jerry:
> > Thanks for keeping us updated.
> >
> > Sounds like it might be worthwhile to find a DDEC for my coach.
> >
> > Bill
> > **1988 40WB XXV "Anniversary Special Edition"
> > Kitimat, B.C. Canada eh
> >
> >
> >
>

[James Q Riordan Jr]

A series 60 must use a ddec5 or higher ddec was first gen. The 8v92 I think went up to Ddec III

Thanks,

Jim Riordan

On Dec 3, 2012, at 8:52 PM, "Jerry" <"grldst@yahoo.com"> wrote:

The "DDEC" I purchased is for the "series 60" engine. The company I purchased it from is programing it for the 8V92.



The tech working on the engine is skeptical, saying he hasn't had any luck using the series 60's DDEC on an 8V92. He claims there are always some little issues/glitches that pop up.



The company I purchased this from assures me, and guarantees, that it will work. This just keeps getting more interesting.



--- In "WanderlodgeForum%40yahoogroups.com", Joe Garner wrote:

>

> Might be better off looking into an upgrade. I know DD had kits for 1>2

> and 2>3, but not sure whats involved or if its worth it.

> Also, at least for DDEC2 there where several versions of software. I

> havent been able to find out for sure, but I think the latest is .151...

> Does anyone know about this stuff? It would be nice to have a DDEC manual

> too ;}

>

>

> /Joe

> 8v92, mechanical!

>

>

>

> On Sun, Dec 2, 2012 at 7:08 AM, Wilhelmus Schreurs

> wrote:

>

> > **

> >

> >

> > Jerry:

> > Thanks for keeping us updated.

> >

> > Sounds like it might be worthwhile to find a DDEC for my coach.

> >

> > Bill

> > **1988 40WB XXV "Anniversary Special Edition"

> > Kitimat, B.C. Canada eh

> >

> >

> >

>