no hot water

[Robert & Teri Rahn]

hello, we havent written in in a long time. we left mt a couple of
days ago to washington. we have been staying in our bus a couple of
days with no problems. tonight we went to take showers and there is no
hot water. actually no water flow when we put the sink on hot. from
both sinks this happens. and from the shower there is no water flow at
all on hot or cold. when the shower valve is on and the bathroom sink
is turned on there is flow out of the tub spiggot as well as the sink.
but not hot. i looked in at the water heater and there is no leak and
it sounds like it is heating, a slight sound and the top feels warm.
any help appreciated.

robert rahn
kalispell, mt
88 pt 40 wb

[sfedeli3]

Hi Robert,

First, make sure that the water heater switch under your bed
(usually on the curb side) is set to "fill" instead of "drain". I
had problems with calcium deposits in my shower regulator and sink
faucet last year that only seemed to effect the hot water side.
There was usually flow in the bathroom sink. I ended up
disassembling the shower regulator and cleaned the small screens in
the two sink faucets. Both were full of calcium from the water
heater.

Shane Fedeli
85PT40
Hershey, PA

--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Robert & Teri Rahn"
wrote:
>
> hello, we havent written in in a long time. we left mt a couple of
> days ago to washington. we have been staying in our bus a couple
of
> days with no problems. tonight we went to take showers and there
is no
> hot water. actually no water flow when we put the sink on hot.
from
> both sinks this happens. and from the shower there is no water
flow at
> all on hot or cold. when the shower valve is on and the bathroom
sink
> is turned on there is flow out of the tub spiggot as well as the
sink.
> but not hot. i looked in at the water heater and there is no leak
and
> it sounds like it is heating, a slight sound and the top feels
warm.
> any help appreciated.
>
> robert rahn
> kalispell, mt
> 88 pt 40 wb
>

[scoggins_jim]

--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Robert & Teri Rahn"
wrote:
>
>Robert:
A possibility:
Some MH's have a check valve prior to the water heater. This check
valve prevents heat transfer from the water heater back to the cold
water source, i.e., the fresh water tank. Internally is a small
plastic part that deteriorates or gets misaligned thus preventing
water flow. This valve will be located imediately prior to the tank on
the cold water line feeding the heater.

About 7 bucks for the valve. I got mine from bird but it seems to be a
common part available at any plumbing supply.

Actually one can just take the valve out, pull out the plastic check
valve portion and put the who;e assembly back in--left mine for about
six months before i went back in to do it right.

This fixed my 86 PT that had some of the symtoms you describe. it is
an easy fix.

Jim Scoggins
formerly 86 PT 40
Stafford, VA

[Ralph L. Fullenwider]

Another item that will cause this, is the 3 way valve with the air blow out
line attached at the bottom of the cold water inlet inlet. This valve is
famous for sticking. Take the water pressure off the Coach, remove 4 screws
on the end cap, pull the valve spool with a pair of needle nose pliers
toward you and replace the cap.

Safe travels,

Ralph and Charolette Fullenwider
Ralph's RV Solutions, Duncan, Oklahoma
http://home.swbell.net/rlf47/index.htm

At 01:16 PM 11/20/2005 +0000, you wrote:
>--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Robert & Teri Rahn"
> wrote:
> >
> >Robert:
>A possibility:
>Some MH's have a check valve prior to the water heater. This check
>valve prevents heat transfer from the water heater back to the cold
>water source, i.e., the fresh water tank. Internally is a small
>plastic part that deteriorates or gets misaligned thus preventing
>water flow. This valve will be located imediately prior to the tank on
>the cold water line feeding the heater.
>
>About 7 bucks for the valve. I got mine from bird but it seems to be a
>common part available at any plumbing supply.
>
>Actually one can just take the valve out, pull out the plastic check
>valve portion and put the who;e assembly back in--left mine for about
>six months before i went back in to do it right.
>
>This fixed my 86 PT that had some of the symtoms you describe. it is
>an easy fix.
>
>Jim Scoggins
>formerly 86 PT 40
>Stafford, VA
>
>

[Robert Johannesen]

Hi Robert,
We had the same problem in our '91. It was small pieces of contamination
(calcium) in the shower valve (Moen 3100). It would only feed hot water. The
balancing spool (Moen part # 1423) is a very precise device with very close
tolerances and I've cleaned it several times. Now I'm going to order a couple of
new ones (1-800-BUY-MOEN). Johannesen's Law: If I have a spare available, it
will never fail again! Hence the nickname "Packrat". Learning about these big
babies is a never ending process.I wonder if it would be worth the time to put a
good filter just after the hot water heater?

Bob Johannesen '91WLWB40, Argyle, TX

Robert & Teri Rahn wrote:
hello, we havent written in in a long time. we left mt a couple of
days ago to washington. we have been staying in our bus a couple of
days with no problems. tonight we went to take showers and there is no
hot water. actually no water flow when we put the sink on hot. from
both sinks this happens. and from the shower there is no water flow at
all on hot or cold. when the shower valve is on and the bathroom sink
is turned on there is flow out of the tub spiggot as well as the sink.
but not hot. i looked in at the water heater and there is no leak and
it sounds like it is heating, a slight sound and the top feels warm.
any help appreciated.

robert rahn
kalispell, mt
88 pt 40 wb







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[Scott]

Hey Bob, I just repaired the cartridges on our coach as well. One new
one and one simply cleaned and used plumbers grease..high temp and
water proof..works great now. FWIW you may want to check with MOEN..I
think they carry a lifetime warranty hence new parts covered under
warranty! A filter on the hot water line?? Hmm I think the spigots
are easier to get to than a filter would be..I would guess that an
annual "flush" of the water tank would probably take care of most
deposits..but with all the other stuff..where on the list is that!!

Scott B
86FC35 "RUBY"
Murrells Inlet SC

--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, Robert Johannesen
wrote:
>
> Hi Robert,
> We had the same problem in our '91. It was small pieces of
contamination (calcium) in the shower valve (Moen 3100). It would
only feed hot water. The balancing spool (Moen part # 1423) is a very
precise device with very close tolerances and I've cleaned it several
times. Now I'm going to order a couple of new ones (1-800-BUY-MOEN).
Johannesen's Law: If I have a spare available, it will never fail
again! Hence the nickname "Packrat". Learning about these big babies
is a never ending process.I wonder if it would be worth the time to
put a good filter just after the hot water heater?
>
> Bob Johannesen '91WLWB40, Argyle, TX
>
> Robert & Teri Rahn wrote:
> hello, we havent written in in a long time. we left mt a couple
of
> days ago to washington. we have been staying in our bus a couple of
> days with no problems. tonight we went to take showers and there is
no
> hot water. actually no water flow when we put the sink on hot. from
> both sinks this happens. and from the shower there is no water flow
at
> all on hot or cold. when the shower valve is on and the bathroom
sink
> is turned on there is flow out of the tub spiggot as well as the
sink.
> but not hot. i looked in at the water heater and there is no leak
and
> it sounds like it is heating, a slight sound and the top feels
warm.
> any help appreciated.
>
> robert rahn
> kalispell, mt
> 88 pt 40 wb
>
>
>
>
>
>
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