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12-22-2005, 12:45

Does your toilet have a small hole at the top below the rim?If so it
goes from the top and bypass the gate valve to prevent over flow.It
has a 360 degree loop with water in it to prevent odours from coming
back up.
Over a period of time the water will evaperate and odors will come
up.Squirt a little antifreeze or better yet mineral oil in.This will
prevent evaperation and freezing and keep tank odours down.
Ken Kalmakoff
1982fc
Richmond BC Canada

wrote:
>
> Our toilet has the air pressure assist for pushing the contents
> over/down to the holding tank. Would this still apply?
>
> Curt Sprenger 1987 PT38, Anaheim Hills, Calif.
>
>
>
> Jeff Miller wrote:
>
> > If the flapper is closed, holding water above it, the most likely
> > culprit as has been mentioned is the gasket/seal between the
toilet and
> > the floor/pipe. Many leak, stinks when there is a negative in
the coach
> > (front windows are worst for creating negative pressure),
otherwise go
> > unnoticed until the unfortunate overfilling of the blackwater
tank.
> >
> > - Jeff Miller
> > in Holland, MI
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12-22-2005, 13:50

Rich,
Yes, the toilet is the Microphor air unit. I'll check out the link...and
check for the leak as you suggest. Thanks.

Curt Sprenger 1987 PT38, Anaheim Hills, Calif.

g_man1146 wrote:

> Hi Curt,
> Is your toilet a Microphor air unit? The Microphor air toilet has a
> hopper below the bowl that collects the contents of the flush, then,
> after the flapper closes, air pressure is applied to this hopper and
> the contents are pushed down through a 1 1/2" pipe. On these, there
> is no floor pipe in the fashion of an electric Microphor or other
> straight drop type toilet. The 1 1/2" pipe may still be a source of
> a leak where it connects to the hopper. Most connect at the rear of
> the hopper and the connection is visible by removing the lid at the
> back of the toilet and looking with a flashlight. Some also connect
> at the bottom and will be harder to see. These toilets are designed
> for use where a straight drop direct to the tank is not possible due
> to floorplan design and tank location. Air pressure is necessary to
> keep the clean water, after a flush, in the bowl but if air is
> depleted and it leaks into the hopper, this clean water should still
> prevent odors from entering through the toilet. Here is a link that
> will let you download Microphor installation and service manuals.
>
> http://www.microphor.com/html/2quart-rec.html
>
> Rich D. '99LXi43' CT
>
>
> --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, Curt Sprenger
> wrote:
> >
> > Our toilet has the air pressure assist for pushing the contents
> > over/down to the holding tank. Would this still apply?
> >
> > Curt Sprenger 1987 PT38, Anaheim Hills, Calif.
> >
> >
> >
> > Jeff Miller wrote:
> >
> > > If the flapper is closed, holding water above it, the most likely
> > > culprit as has been mentioned is the gasket/seal between the
> toilet and
> > > the floor/pipe. Many leak, stinks when there is a negative in
> the coach
> > > (front windows are worst for creating negative pressure),
> otherwise go
> > > unnoticed until the unfortunate overfilling of the blackwater
> tank.
> > >
> > > - Jeff Miller
> > > in Holland, MI
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
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12-22-2005, 13:53

Ken,
I'll check tomorrow. Thanks.

Curt Sprenger 1987 PT38, Anaheim Hills, Calif.

bus2nut wrote:

> Does your toilet have a small hole at the top below the rim?If so it
> goes from the top and bypass the gate valve to prevent over flow.It
> has a 360 degree loop with water in it to prevent odours from coming
> back up.
> Over a period of time the water will evaperate and odors will come
> up.Squirt a little antifreeze or better yet mineral oil in.This will
> prevent evaperation and freezing and keep tank odours down.
> Ken Kalmakoff
> 1982fc
> Richmond BC Canada
>
>
>
> wrote:
> >
> > Our toilet has the air pressure assist for pushing the contents
> > over/down to the holding tank. Would this still apply?
> >
> > Curt Sprenger 1987 PT38, Anaheim Hills, Calif.
> >
> >
> >
> > Jeff Miller wrote:
> >
> > > If the flapper is closed, holding water above it, the most likely
> > > culprit as has been mentioned is the gasket/seal between the
> toilet and
> > > the floor/pipe. Many leak, stinks when there is a negative in
> the coach
> > > (front windows are worst for creating negative pressure),
> otherwise go
> > > unnoticed until the unfortunate overfilling of the blackwater
> tank.
> > >
> > > - Jeff Miller
> > > in Holland, MI
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > -----------------------------------------------------------------
> -------
> > > YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS
> > >
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> > > <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/WanderlodgeForum>" on the
> web.
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12-23-2005, 04:01

Curt,

We usually put some liquid dish washing detergent in the black tank with a
couple of gallons of water before leaving on a trip. This seems to keep the
tank reasonably clean. The soap I added the last time had some type of
reaction & really stunk up the place. This is the only time we have had any
problems in
five years of ownership. After the tank was flushed the odor ceased. We
have not had any problems since. The soap used this particular time was from a
leaking bottle of hand soap. Maybe the soap used in the bathroom sink has
reacted with the contents of your holding tank.

Just a thought, Have a great holiday,

Bill & Rita in Roanoke, VA (55 & sunny)
1987 FC-35 SB

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12-23-2005, 08:29

Curt if you do have an air type Microphor keep in mind that Randy has one on
the shelf. It's not likely you'll need a whole toilet but I thought I'd let you
know just in case.

Quoting g_man1146 :

>
>
>
>
> Hi Curt,
>
> Is your toilet a Microphor air unit? The Microphor air toilet has a
>
> hopper below the bowl that collects the contents of the flush, then,
>
> after the flapper closes, air pressure is applied to this hopper and
>
> the contents are pushed down through a 1 1/2" pipe. On these, there
>
> is no floor pipe in the fashion of an electric Microphor or other
>
> straight drop type toilet. The 1 1/2" pipe may still be a source of
>
> a leak where it connects to the hopper. Most connect at the rear of
>
> the hopper and the connection is visible by removing the lid at the
>
> back of the toilet and looking with a flashlight. Some also connect
>
> at the bottom and will be harder to see. These toilets are designed
>
> for use where a straight drop direct to the tank is not possible due
>
> to floorplan design and tank location. Air pressure is necessary to
>
> keep the clean water, after a flush, in the bowl but if air is
>
> depleted and it leaks into the hopper, this clean water should still
>
> prevent odors from entering through the toilet. Here is a link that
>
> will let you download Microphor installation and service manuals.
>
>
>
> http://www.microphor.com/html/2quart-rec.html
>
>
>
> Rich D. '99LXi43' CT
>
>
>
>
>
> --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, Curt Sprenger
>
> wrote:
>
> >
>
> > Our toilet has the air pressure assist for pushing the contents
>
> > over/down to the holding tank. Would this still apply?
>
> >
>
> > Curt Sprenger 1987 PT38, Anaheim Hills, Calif.
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> > Jeff Miller wrote:
>
> >
>
> > > If the flapper is closed, holding water above it, the most likely
>
> > > culprit as has been mentioned is the gasket/seal between the
>
> toilet and
>
> > > the floor/pipe. Many leak, stinks when there is a negative in
>
> the coach
>
> > > (front windows are worst for creating negative pressure),
>
> otherwise go
>
> > > unnoticed until the unfortunate overfilling of the blackwater
>
> tank.
>
> > >
>
> > > - Jeff Miller
>
> > > in Holland, MI
>
> > >
>
> > >
>
> > >
>
> > >
>
> > > -----------------------------------------------------------------
>
> -------
>
> > > YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS
>
> > >
>
> > > Â Â Â * Visit your group "WanderlodgeForum
>
> > > Â Â Â Â Â <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/WanderlodgeForum>" on the
>
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