Bad wiring from factory?
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12-24-2005, 06:06
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Bad wiring from factory?
Hello all,
I have spent the morning chasing wires in my FC in an effort to figure out why the chassis heat won't work. I am using as a guide the engineering plans that are in my blue box. So far, I have found numerous wires in both the front and rear right- side load centers that are not attached to the proper pins & sockets as outlined in the plans. All of these wires are associated with the chassis heat. I have not chnged things around yet to match the plans. But this leads to my question: these load centers look to me like they have never been touched. Everything is very neat and clean, wires still bundled together tightly, all the number tags still there, no splicing anywhere, etc. It looks like factory-quality workmanship, not like anything any repair person I have ever had experience with would leave. So the question is: do you think it is possible it was wired incorrectly at the factory? Anyone ever come across a similar situation? My coach spent it's whole life in Texas before me...maybe 20 years of owners before me never tried to use the chassis heat. Scott Forman 82 FC35RB Memphis |
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12-24-2005, 06:39
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Bad wiring from factory?
Our previous BB was a '81FC31. It would never pre-heat the generator from
either of the switches. I discovered that the wires had never been installed. I asked Bennie at BB service about this and he said that could "never happen", that they must have been "moved by someone". I spent a lot of time looking, because of what he had told me, and they just were not ever installed. So, it can and does happen. Dick Hayden '87PT38 ----- Original Message ----- From: Scott Forman To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, December 24, 2005 10:06 AM Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Bad wiring from factory? Hello all, I have spent the morning chasing wires in my FC in an effort to figure out why the chassis heat won't work. I am using as a guide the engineering plans that are in my blue box. So far, I have found numerous wires in both the front and rear right- side load centers that are not attached to the proper pins & sockets as outlined in the plans. All of these wires are associated with the chassis heat. I have not chnged things around yet to match the plans. But this leads to my question: these load centers look to me like they have never been touched. Everything is very neat and clean, wires still bundled together tightly, all the number tags still there, no splicing anywhere, etc. It looks like factory-quality workmanship, not like anything any repair person I have ever had experience with would leave. So the question is: do you think it is possible it was wired incorrectly at the factory? Anyone ever come across a similar situation? My coach spent it's whole life in Texas before me...maybe 20 years of owners before me never tried to use the chassis heat. Scott Forman 82 FC35RB Memphis SPONSORED LINKS Recreational vehicles<http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Recr...ation\ al+vehicles&w2=Wanderlodge&w3=Automotive+maintenance&w4=Recreational+vehicle+dea\ ler&w5=Used+recreational+vehicles&w6=Automotive+radiators&c=6&s=163&.sig=DAUkCKk\ U7Dzhn_ObWmSYTw> Wanderlodge<http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Wand...;vehi\ cles&w2=Wanderlodge&w3=Automotive+maintenance&w4=Recreational+vehicle+dealer&w5=\ Used+recreational+vehicles&w6=Automotive+radiators&c=6&s=163&.sig=Z-8HJdysB3QLPj\ 9U0JvqYQ> Automotive maintenance<http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Auto...ecrea\ tional+vehicles&w2=Wanderlodge&w3=Automotive+maintenance&w4=Recreational+vehicle\ +dealer&w5=Used+recreational+vehicles&w6=Automotive+radiators&c=6&s=163&.sig=IF4\ u_5wI8Pmy34cC1O9CxA> Recreational vehicle dealer<http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Recr...ecrea\ tional+vehicles&w2=Wanderlodge&w3=Automotive+maintenance&w4=Recreational+vehicle\ +dealer&w5=Used+recreational+vehicles&w6=Automotive+radiators&c=6&s=163&.sig=z6_\ XahaeYHfELr6o72IW1A> Used recreational vehicles<http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Used...Recre\ ational+vehicles&w2=Wanderlodge&w3=Automotive+maintenance&w4=Recreational+vehicl\ e+dealer&w5=Used+recreational+vehicles&w6=Automotive+radiators&c=6&s=163&.sig=UG\ EY5km4L-kXbDI4ZSadEw> Automotive radiators<http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Auto...ation\ al+vehicles&w2=Wanderlodge&w3=Automotive+maintenance&w4=Recreational+vehicle+dea\ ler&w5=Used+recreational+vehicles&w6=Automotive+radiators&c=6&s=163&sig=ePNVMmIS\ sCWgTnMq_4GlXA> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS a.. Visit your group "WanderlodgeForum<http://groups.yahoo.com/group/WanderlodgeForum>" on the web. b.. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: WanderlodgeForum-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com c.. Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service<http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/>. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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12-24-2005, 10:38
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Bad wiring from factory?
Hi Scott,
Coming up on a twenty year span, three Birds have been wired different from what their schematic showed; all in more than one area. Additionally, one had an isolator diode soldered backwards which contributed to the house battery bank constantly becoming discharged, in spite of repeated warranty work-orders and battery replacements. Therefore, I'm not the person to ask if what you experienced could be created during manufacturing. John Suter --- Scott Forman <sforman@...> wrote: > Hello all, > > I have spent the morning chasing wires in my FC in > an effort to > figure out why the chassis heat won't work. I am > using as a guide > the engineering plans that are in my blue box. > > So far, I have found numerous wires in both the > front and rear right- > side load centers that are not attached to the > proper pins & sockets > as outlined in the plans. All of these wires are > associated with the > chassis heat. I have not chnged things around yet > to match the plans. > > But this leads to my question: these load centers > look to me like > they have never been touched. Everything is very > neat and clean, > wires still bundled together tightly, all the number > tags still > there, no splicing anywhere, etc. It looks like > factory-quality > workmanship, not like anything any repair person I > have ever had > experience with would leave. So the question is: do > you think it is > possible it was wired incorrectly at the factory? > Anyone ever come > across a similar situation? My coach spent it's > whole life in Texas > before me...maybe 20 years of owners before me never > tried to use the > chassis heat. > > Scott Forman > 82 FC35RB > Memphis > > > > __________________________________________ Yahoo! DSL â Something to write home about. Just $16.99/mo. or less. dsl.yahoo.com |
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12-25-2005, 07:14
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Bad wiring from factory?
Hmm, an '82 possibly wired wrong?
Hard to say whether it has been changed in the past 24years, might be, might not be. Most of the coaches from that era I've been through have many surprises added by miscellaneous owners and RV shops over the past 1/4 century. That not being the case, lets just say that '82 was a year with a lot of training, the largest production year at Wanderlodge from what I've been told, also the year that the PT was introduced and the FC was changed significantly, ... a lot of things slipped through the cracks in '82 from my experience. Having something mis-wired would not be normal, but not a shock to me either (no pun intended). - Jeff Miller in Holland, MI --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Richard Hayden" > > Our previous BB was a '81FC31. It would never pre-heat the generator from either of the switches. I discovered that the wires had never been installed. I asked Bennie at BB service about this and he said that could "never happen", that they must have been "moved by someone". I spent a lot of time looking, because of what he had told me, and they just were not ever installed. So, it can and does happen. > > Dick Hayden '87PT38 > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Scott Forman > To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Saturday, December 24, 2005 10:06 AM > Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Bad wiring from factory? > > > Hello all, > > I have spent the morning chasing wires in my FC in an effort to > figure out why the chassis heat won't work. I am using as a guide > the engineering plans that are in my blue box. > > So far, I have found numerous wires in both the front and rear right- > side load centers that are not attached to the proper pins & sockets > as outlined in the plans. All of these wires are associated with the > chassis heat. I have not chnged things around yet to match the plans. > > But this leads to my question: these load centers look to me like > they have never been touched. Everything is very neat and clean, > wires still bundled together tightly, all the number tags still > there, no splicing anywhere, etc. It looks like factory-quality > workmanship, not like anything any repair person I have ever had > experience with would leave. So the question is: do you think it is > possible it was wired incorrectly at the factory? Anyone ever come > across a similar situation? My coach spent it's whole life in Texas > before me...maybe 20 years of owners before me never tried to use the > chassis heat. > > Scott Forman > 82 FC35RB > Memphis > > > > > > SPONSORED LINKS Recreational vehicles<http://groups.yahoo.com/gads? t=ms&k=Recreational+vehicles&w1=Recreational+vehicles&w2=Wanderlodge&w 3=Automotive+maintenance&w4=Recreational+vehicle+dealer&w5=Used+recrea tional+vehicles&w6=Automotive+radiators&c=6&s=163&.sig=DAUkCKkU7Dzhn_O bWmSYTw> Wanderlodge<http://groups.yahoo.com/gads? t=ms&k=Wanderlodge&w1=Recreational+vehicles&w2=Wanderlodge&w3=Automoti ve+maintenance&w4=Recreational+vehicle+dealer&w5=Used+recreational+veh icles&w6=Automotive+radiators&c=6&s=163&.sig=Z-8HJdysB3QLPj9U0JvqYQ> Automotive maintenance<http://groups.yahoo.com/gads? t=ms&k=Automotive+maintenance&w1=Recreational+vehicles&w2=Wanderlodge& w3=Automotive+maintenance&w4=Recreational+vehicle+dealer&w5=Used+recre ational+vehicles&w6=Automotive+radiators&c=6&s=163&.sig=IF4u_5wI8Pmy34 cC1O9CxA> > Recreational vehicle dealer<http://groups.yahoo.com/gads? t=ms&k=Recreational+vehicle+dealer&w1=Recreational+vehicles&w2=Wanderl odge&w3=Automotive+maintenance&w4=Recreational+vehicle+dealer&w5=Used+ recreational+vehicles&w6=Automotive+radiators&c=6&s=163&.sig=z6_XahaeY HfELr6o72IW1A> Used recreational vehicles<http://groups.yahoo.com/gads? t=ms&k=Used+recreational+vehicles&w1=Recreational+vehicles&w2=Wanderlo dge&w3=Automotive+maintenance&w4=Recreational+vehicle+dealer&w5=Used+r ecreational+vehicles&w6=Automotive+radiators&c=6&s=163&.sig=UGEY5km4L- kXbDI4ZSadEw> Automotive radiators<http://groups.yahoo.com/gads? t=ms&k=Automotive+radiators&w1=Recreational+vehicles&w2=Wanderlodge&w3 =Automotive+maintenance&w4=Recreational+vehicle+dealer&w5=Used+recreat ional+vehicles&w6=Automotive+radiators&c=6&s=163&sig=ePNVMmISsCWgTnMq_ 4GlXA> > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------- ---------- > YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS > > a.. Visit your group "WanderlodgeForum<http://groups.yahoo.com/group/WanderlodgeForum >" on the web. > > b.. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > WanderlodgeForum- unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > c.. Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service<http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/>. > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------- ---------- > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > |
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