Problem with air operated steeps on fc birds
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02-12-2006, 17:07
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Problem with air operated steeps on fc birds
I have spent a few hours trying to figure out why my steep would not go
into stow position and found out this to be the problem. The door electric switch that activates the air control vlv (That control the air piston on the steeps) was not grounding like it should. I could open the steps but not with-track them. This switch over time become over used and will not ground the circuits used to activate the vlv to the close position. If you have not check this switch out lately and you think it looks good from the outside, you might be surprised at how corroded thies units get being exposed to the wind and rain on the inside. Maybe it time to replace this item before you have a day like I did checking everything and finally that push button located at the door entrance. Jon Lechich 1978 Wanderlodge Bremerton Washingtion 98311 |
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02-13-2006, 05:40
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Problem with air operated steeps on fc birds
--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Jon"
> > I have spent a few hours trying to figure out why my steep would not go > into stow position and found out this to be the problem. > > The door electric switch that activates the air control vlv (That > control the air piston on the steeps) was not grounding like it > should. I could open the steps but not with-track them. This switch > over time become over used and will not ground the circuits used to > activate the vlv to the close position. If you have not check this > switch out lately and you think it looks good from the outside, you > might be surprised at how corroded thies units get being exposed to the > wind and rain on the inside. Maybe it time to replace this item before > you have a day like I did checking everything and finally that push > button located at the door entrance. > > Jon Lechich > 1978 Wanderlodge > Bremerton Washingtion > 98311 > Oops I had that backasswards on that switch I meant that when it is pushed in, it is suppose to stop the flow of electricity to the air actuated air vlv's and not ground the system. And my old one was just letting the juice flow all the time. Jon Jon Lechich Rebel Bird |
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02-13-2006, 06:30
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Problem with air operated steeps on fc birds
Jon do you have an air operated step or an electrical one?
Tom Warner 1982 FC35 Vernon center,NY At 12:40 PM 2/13/2006, you wrote: >--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Jon" > > > > I have spent a few hours trying to figure out why my steep would >not go > > into stow position and found out this to be the problem. > > > > The door electric switch that activates the air control vlv (That > > control the air piston on the steeps) was not grounding like it > > should. I could open the steps but not with-track them. This >switch > > over time become over used and will not ground the circuits used to > > activate the vlv to the close position. If you have not check this > > switch out lately and you think it looks good from the outside, you > > might be surprised at how corroded thies units get being exposed to >the > > wind and rain on the inside. Maybe it time to replace this item >before > > you have a day like I did checking everything and finally that push > > button located at the door entrance. > > > > Jon Lechich > > 1978 Wanderlodge > > Bremerton Washingtion > > 98311 > > >Oops I had that backasswards on that switch I meant that when it is >pushed in, it is suppose to stop the flow of electricity to the air >actuated air vlv's and not ground the system. And my old one was just >letting the juice flow all the time. Jon >Jon Lechich >Rebel Bird > > > > > > > >SPONSORED LINKS ><http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Recr...;vehi\ cles&w2=Wanderlodge&w3=Automotive+maintenance&w4=Recreational+vehicle+dealer&w5=\ Used+recreational+vehicles&w6=Automotive+radiators&c=6&s=163&.sig=DAUkCKkU7Dzhn_\ ObWmSYTw>Recreational >vehicles ><http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Wand...w2=Wa\ nderlodge&w3=Automotive+maintenance&w4=Recreational+vehicle+dealer&w5=Used+recre\ ational+vehicles&w6=Automotive+radiators&c=6&s=163&.sig=Z-8HJdysB3QLPj9U0JvqYQ>W\ anderlodge ><http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Auto...3;veh\ icles&w2=Wanderlodge&w3=Automotive+maintenance&w4=Recreational+vehicle+dealer&w5\ =Used+recreational+vehicles&w6=Automotive+radiators&c=6&s=163&.sig=IF4u_5wI8Pmy3\ 4cC1O9CxA>Automotive >maintenance ><http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Recr...tiona\ l+vehicles&w2=Wanderlodge&w3=Automotive+maintenance&w4=Recreational+vehicle+deal\ er&w5=Used+recreational+vehicles&w6=Automotive+radiators&c=6&s=163&.sig=z6_Xahae\ YHfELr6o72IW1A>Recreational >vehicle dealer ><http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Used...ional\ +vehicles&w2=Wanderlodge&w3=Automotive+maintenance&w4=Recreational+vehicle+deale\ r&w5=Used+recreational+vehicles&w6=Automotive+radiators&c=6&s=163&.sig=UGEY5km4L\ -kXbDI4ZSadEw>Used >recreational vehicles ><http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Auto...vehic\ les&w2=Wanderlodge&w3=Automotive+maintenance&w4=Recreational+vehicle+dealer&w5=U\ sed+recreational+vehicles&w6=Automotive+radiators&c=6&s=163&.sig=ePNVMmISsCWgTnM\ q_4GlXA>Automotive >radiators > > >---------- >YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS > > * Visit your group > "<http://groups.yahoo.com/group/WanderlodgeForum>WanderlodgeForum" on the web. > * > * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > * > odgeForum-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > * > * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the > <http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/>Yahoo! Terms of Service. > > >---------- |
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02-13-2006, 14:19
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Problem with air operated steeps on fc birds
--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, Tom Warner
wrote: > > Jon do you have an air operated step or an electrical one? > > Tom Warner > 1982 FC35 > Vernon center,NY Tom I have the air operated type and I thought I had it fixed with installing a new switch but back to square one and no fixie. I don't know how Bluebird ever designed a unit like this but its like working on a rubics cube. I get the juice to open the air soloniod vlv but when I try to retrack it it just sit there. I can override the power to the solinoid and the stairs will close. Owell tomorrow if its haft way decent I will rack my brain again with this electrical problem. Jon Lechich Rebel Bird Bremerton Washington > > At 12:40 PM 2/13/2006, you wrote: > >--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Jon" > > > > > > I have spent a few hours trying to figure out why my steep would > >not go > > > into stow position and found out this to be the problem. > > > > > > The door electric switch that activates the air control vlv (That > > > control the air piston on the steeps) was not grounding like it > > > should. I could open the steps but not with-track them. This > >switch > > > over time become over used and will not ground the circuits used to > > > activate the vlv to the close position. If you have not check this > > > switch out lately and you think it looks good from the outside, you > > > might be surprised at how corroded thies units get being exposed to > >the > > > wind and rain on the inside. Maybe it time to replace this item > >before > > > you have a day like I did checking everything and finally that push > > > button located at the door entrance. > > > > > > Jon Lechich > > > 1978 Wanderlodge > > > Bremerton Washingtion > > > 98311 > > > > >Oops I had that backasswards on that switch I meant that when it is > >pushed in, it is suppose to stop the flow of electricity to the air > >actuated air vlv's and not ground the system. And my old one was just > >letting the juice flow all the time. Jon > >Jon Lechich > >Rebel Bird > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >SPONSORED LINKS > ><http://groups.yahoo.com/gads? t=ms&k=Recreational+vehicles&w1=Recreational+vehicles&w2=Wanderlodge&w 3=Automotive+maintenance&w4=Recreational+vehicle+dealer&w5=Used+recrea tional+vehicles&w6=Automotive+radiators&c=6&s=163&.sig=DAUkCKkU7Dzhn_O bWmSYTw>Recreational > >vehicles > ><http://groups.yahoo.com/gads? t=ms&k=Wanderlodge&w1=Recreational+vehicles&w2=Wanderlodge&w3=Automoti ve+maintenance&w4=Recreational+vehicle+dealer&w5=Used+recreational+veh icles&w6=Automotive+radiators&c=6&s=163&.sig=Z- 8HJdysB3QLPj9U0JvqYQ>Wanderlodge > ><http://groups.yahoo.com/gads? t=ms&k=Automotive+maintenance&w1=Recreational+vehicles&w2=Wanderlodge& w3=Automotive+maintenance&w4=Recreational+vehicle+dealer&w5=Used+recre ational+vehicles&w6=Automotive+radiators&c=6&s=163&.sig=IF4u_5wI8Pmy34 cC1O9CxA>Automotive > >maintenance > ><http://groups.yahoo.com/gads? t=ms&k=Recreational+vehicle+dealer&w1=Recreational+vehicles&w2=Wanderl odge&w3=Automotive+maintenance&w4=Recreational+vehicle+dealer&w5=Used+ recreational+vehicles&w6=Automotive+radiators&c=6&s=163&.sig=z6_XahaeY HfELr6o72IW1A>Recreational > >vehicle dealer > ><http://groups.yahoo.com/gads? t=ms&k=Used+recreational+vehicles&w1=Recreational+vehicles&w2=Wanderlo dge&w3=Automotive+maintenance&w4=Recreational+vehicle+dealer&w5=Used+r ecreational+vehicles&w6=Automotive+radiators&c=6&s=163&.sig=UGEY5km4L- kXbDI4ZSadEw>Used > >recreational vehicles > ><http://groups.yahoo.com/gads? t=ms&k=Automotive+radiators&w1=Recreational+vehicles&w2=Wanderlodge&w3 =Automotive+maintenance&w4=Recreational+vehicle+dealer&w5=Used+recreat ional+vehicles&w6=Automotive+radiators&c=6&s=163&.sig=ePNVMmISsCWgTnMq _4GlXA>Automotive > >radiators > > > > > >---------- > >YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS > > > > * Visit your group > > "<http://groups.yahoo.com/group/WanderlodgeForum>WanderlodgeForum" on the web. > > * > > * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > > * > > > > > > * > > * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the > > <http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/>Yahoo! Terms of Service. > > > > > >---------- > |
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02-13-2006, 15:56
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Problem with air operated steeps on fc birds
Jon if you look under the back of the step you will find either one
or two microswitches that control the shut off of air to the step when it is fully out or fully in. Yours might have only one microswitch and only god knows why BB designed some of the BB with only one (like mine). You will also find 2 air solenoids one to control air to push the step out and one to pull it in. They are connected to a double acting air cylinder (one to each end thru a 1/4" plastic air line. On the back of each air solenoid you will find a small round brass sintered filter with a screw thru it that can be adjusted with a screwdriver. This adjustment determines the speed which the air step goes out and in. There is also a switch on the small panel to the left of the entrance as you go in the coach that allows you to hold the step out even if the door is opened and closed and throwing the switch in the other position the steps will act normally, out when the door is opened and in when the door is closed. Tom Warner 1982 FC35 Vernon Center,NY At 09:19 PM 2/13/2006, you wrote: >--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, Tom Warner >wrote: > > > > Jon do you have an air operated step or an electrical one? > > > > Tom Warner > > 1982 FC35 > > Vernon center,NY > > Tom I have the air operated type and I thought I had it fixed with >installing a new switch but back to square one and no fixie. I don't >know how Bluebird ever designed a unit like this but its like working >on a rubics cube. I get the juice to open the air soloniod vlv but >when I try to retrack it it just sit there. I can override the power >to the solinoid and the stairs will close. Owell tomorrow if its haft >way decent I will rack my brain again with this electrical problem. > >Jon Lechich >Rebel Bird >Bremerton Washington > > > > At 12:40 PM 2/13/2006, you wrote: > > >--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Jon" > > > > > > > > I have spent a few hours trying to figure out why my steep would > > >not go > > > > into stow position and found out this to be the problem. > > > > > > > > The door electric switch that activates the air control vlv >(That > > > > control the air piston on the steeps) was not grounding like it > > > > should. I could open the steps but not with-track them. This > > >switch > > > > over time become over used and will not ground the circuits >used to > > > > activate the vlv to the close position. If you have not check >this > > > > switch out lately and you think it looks good from the outside, >you > > > > might be surprised at how corroded thies units get being >exposed to > > >the > > > > wind and rain on the inside. Maybe it time to replace this item > > >before > > > > you have a day like I did checking everything and finally that >push > > > > button located at the door entrance. > > > > > > > > Jon Lechich > > > > 1978 Wanderlodge > > > > Bremerton Washingtion > > > > 98311 > > > > > > >Oops I had that backasswards on that switch I meant that when it is > > >pushed in, it is suppose to stop the flow of electricity to the air > > >actuated air vlv's and not ground the system. And my old one was >just > > >letting the juice flow all the time. 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