HOT SKIN

[Jay Darst]

My Bird is setting in my driveway and plugged into a standard 20 amp
receptacle via the 50amp/30amp cordset with a 30amp to 15amp adapter.

I have used this method here at home for 2 1/2 years and have never
had HOT SKIN.

It has been plugged in for about 10 days now(this time). I have been
in and out of the Bird most every day. No shocks.

But this morning, with door key in hand, I touched the door key to
the deadbolt and got a shock.(DAM!)

I have read old posts that indicate "there must be something wrong".

Am looking for something a bit more definitive. Being the Bird has
never done this, and that it hasn't moved since having no HOT SKIN,
I doubt that it is a bare skinned wire.

In reading information provided by the Freedom Inverter, there is a
section that indicates that the unit internally bonds the AC output
white(neutral) and green(ground) when the unit is OFF or in the
INVERT mode (neither of these being the case today).

When incoming AC is applied, this bond is lifted. When AC power is
applied, the grounding system is supplied by the source(in this
case, my house wiring system), where neutral and earth ground are
bonded together.

This probably has nothing to with it, but just in case I am missing
something here...

Jeff Miller had posted a few years back that generally the power
source or the cordset are the issue. With the adapters taking us
from 50amp to 15amp, can't be sure if thats an issue, its always
worked before. Could be the source ground system? Not sure how to
check that.

HOT SKIN conditions are caused by?

Any help will be greatly appreciated!

Thanks
Jay Darst
85PT40
SpringfieldIL

[Jay Darst]

****NEVER MIND****

Went out and checked the cords(10-3 extension cord, 35'. The
cordage goes like this:
1. from Bird 50 amp recept to 50amp/30amp std BB adapter cord
2. 50/30 cord to 30/15 adapter
3. 30/15 adapter to above mentioned 35' 10-3 extension cord
4. 35' cord to a 5' 12-3 cord(with the ground prong cut off the male
end)

Forgot about that little cord not being grounded.

Changed cords to one with proper prongs and plugged it into the
house. END of HOT SKIN!

As to being "in and out of the Bird Daily", Always had some kind of
shoes on that would provide some insulation. This morning I was bare
foot.

Next time I will do a bit more diag before posting... thanks to
those of you who had started sifering the probelm.

Jay Darst
85PT40
SpringfieldIL



--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Jay Darst"
wrote:
> My Bird is setting in my driveway and plugged into a standard 20
amp
> receptacle via the 50amp/30amp cordset with a 30amp to 15amp
adapter.
>
> I have used this method here at home for 2 1/2 years and have
never
> had HOT SKIN.
>
> It has been plugged in for about 10 days now(this time). I have
been
> in and out of the Bird most every day. No shocks.
>
> But this morning, with door key in hand, I touched the door key to
> the deadbolt and got a shock.(DAM!)
>
> I have read old posts that indicate "there must be something
wrong".
>
> Am looking for something a bit more definitive. Being the Bird has
> never done this, and that it hasn't moved since having no HOT
SKIN,
> I doubt that it is a bare skinned wire.
>
> In reading information provided by the Freedom Inverter, there is
a
> section that indicates that the unit internally bonds the AC
output
> white(neutral) and green(ground) when the unit is OFF or in the
> INVERT mode (neither of these being the case today).
>
> When incoming AC is applied, this bond is lifted. When AC power is
> applied, the grounding system is supplied by the source(in this
> case, my house wiring system), where neutral and earth ground are
> bonded together.
>
> This probably has nothing to with it, but just in case I am
missing
> something here...
>
> Jeff Miller had posted a few years back that generally the power
> source or the cordset are the issue. With the adapters taking us
> from 50amp to 15amp, can't be sure if thats an issue, its always
> worked before. Could be the source ground system? Not sure how to
> check that.
>
> HOT SKIN conditions are caused by?
>
> Any help will be greatly appreciated!
>
> Thanks
> Jay Darst
> 85PT40
> SpringfieldIL

[Stephen Birtles]

had 2 cases of hot skin first was short in roof air conditioner
second was wife's credit card bill ( just kidding Dear)
Stephen 77fc35


--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Jay Darst"
wrote:
> My Bird is setting in my driveway and plugged into a standard 20
amp
> receptacle via the 50amp/30amp cordset with a 30amp to 15amp
adapter.
>
> I have used this method here at home for 2 1/2 years and have
never
> had HOT SKIN.
>
> It has been plugged in for about 10 days now(this time). I have
been
> in and out of the Bird most every day. No shocks.
>
> But this morning, with door key in hand, I touched the door key to
> the deadbolt and got a shock.(DAM!)
>
> I have read old posts that indicate "there must be something
wrong".
>
> Am looking for something a bit more definitive. Being the Bird has
> never done this, and that it hasn't moved since having no HOT
SKIN,
> I doubt that it is a bare skinned wire.
>
> In reading information provided by the Freedom Inverter, there is
a
> section that indicates that the unit internally bonds the AC
output
> white(neutral) and green(ground) when the unit is OFF or in the
> INVERT mode (neither of these being the case today).
>
> When incoming AC is applied, this bond is lifted. When AC power is
> applied, the grounding system is supplied by the source(in this
> case, my house wiring system), where neutral and earth ground are
> bonded together.
>
> This probably has nothing to with it, but just in case I am
missing
> something here...
>
> Jeff Miller had posted a few years back that generally the power
> source or the cordset are the issue. With the adapters taking us
> from 50amp to 15amp, can't be sure if thats an issue, its always
> worked before. Could be the source ground system? Not sure how to
> check that.
>
> HOT SKIN conditions are caused by?
>
> Any help will be greatly appreciated!
>
> Thanks
> Jay Darst
> 85PT40
> SpringfieldIL