Best engine

[dan]

JW, Pro: Regular unleaded is a lot cheaper than diesel. Con: In an accident, gas is a lot more flamable than diesel. In fact I bought a diesel boat because I didn't want to be out on the water sitting on top of a 260 gallon gas tank.

Dan Williams,88WB38, Jackson,MS

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From: "eagleworks@jonav.net"

To: "WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com"

Sent: Monday, August 31, 2009 3:59 PM

Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Best engine

what would be better? a 391 ford industrial or cat3802? still looking to buy a bird and need to get a feel on what engine is better. pro's an con's will be helpful. thanks all.

JW

[oneoutlaw45]

thanks all. i figured the diesel is the better engine. just didn't know how the
gas engine stacked up to it.

JW




--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "dan" wrote:
>
> JW, Pro: Regular unleaded is a lot cheaper than diesel. Con: In an
accident, gas is a lot more flamable than diesel. In fact I bought a diesel
boat because I didn't want to be out on the water sitting on top of a 260 gallon
gas tank.
>
> Dan Williams,88WB38, Jackson,MS
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: oneoutlaw45
> To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Monday, August 31, 2009 3:59 PM
> Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Best engine
>
>
> what would be better? a 391 ford industrial or cat3802? still looking to
buy a bird and need to get a feel on what engine is better. pro's an con's will
be helpful. thanks all.
>
> JW
>

[jackcj7]

Well, the Diesel is probably a better engine, but when I cracked a cylinder head
on my 391, it was replaced and back on the road for $1200, and took just a
couple of days including getting get a new head....I think a 3208 would be a bit
more, both in time and money.. The 3208 will get 8 to 10 mpg..I get 5 to 6 !!
No worry about all the filters and stuff of the Diesels....The 391 is just a big
Ole Ford engine, with no complicated systems, and most mechanics can easly work
on it....I use whatever antifreeze is on sale at Wallys, and oil change takes
some 7 or 8 Quarts... I have taken our coach over The Grapevine on I-5, Cajon
Pass om the 15, Squalime (sp?) in Washington, and Raton Pass on the 25..Not
fast, but it made it, even with the Jeep on behind...The Diesel would probably
be be a bit faster, but on vacation, I'm in no rush..
Jack Smith
1973FC31 391a Ford
SoCal...

--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "oneoutlaw45" wrote:
>
> thanks all. i figured the diesel is the better engine. just didn't know how
the gas engine stacked up to it.
>
> JW
>
>
>
>
> --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "dan" wrote:
> >
> > JW, Pro: Regular unleaded is a lot cheaper than diesel. Con: In an
accident, gas is a lot more flamable than diesel. In fact I bought a diesel
boat because I didn't want to be out on the water sitting on top of a 260 gallon
gas tank.
> >
> > Dan Williams,88WB38, Jackson,MS
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: oneoutlaw45
> > To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
> > Sent: Monday, August 31, 2009 3:59 PM
> > Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Best engine
> >
> >
> > what would be better? a 391 ford industrial or cat3802? still looking to
buy a bird and need to get a feel on what engine is better. pro's an con's will
be helpful. thanks all.
> >
> > JW
> >
>

[Don Bradner]

If you just use those two you actually have two cons for gas.

Historically, diesel has been cheaper than gas, a lot cheaper.

In recent history diesel had a spike that put it up dramatically relative to
gas, but the reasons for that spike are being market-corrected steadily.

In the latest (8/31) DOE price numbers, on a national basis diesel was still a
little (not a lot) more than gas, $2.674 vs $2.613. On the West Coast, where
both are higher than national, diesel was 15 cents less than gas. Probably
because the west coast has already amortized much of the cost of ULSD conversion
ahead of the rest of the nation.

There is huge diesel refining capacity set to come online over the next few
years as refineries convert to, or build for, hydrocracking instead of cracking.
We will be back to much cheaper diesel (compared to gas) within 5 years, I
think.

On 9/1/2009 at 11:47 AM dan wrote:

>JW, Pro: Regular unleaded is a lot cheaper than diesel. Con: In an
>accident, gas is a lot more flamable than diesel. In fact I bought a
>diesel boat because I didn't want to be out on the water sitting on top of
>a 260 gallon gas tank.
>
>Dan Williams,88WB38, Jackson,MS
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: oneoutlaw45
> To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Monday, August 31, 2009 3:59 PM
> Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Best engine
>
>
> what would be better? a 391 ford industrial or cat3802? still looking
>to buy a bird and need to get a feel on what engine is better. pro's an
>con's will be helpful. thanks all.
>
> JW

[dan]

Don, That's good news about the diesel. Here at flying J regular unleaded is 2.27 and diesel is 2.50.

Dan Williams 88WB38 Jackson,MS

----- Original Message -----

From: "bluethunder@arcatapet.com"

To: "WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com"

Sent: Wednesday, September 02, 2009 10:57 AM

Subject: Re: [WanderlodgeForum] Best engine

If you just use those two you actually have two cons for gas.

Historically, diesel has been cheaper than gas, a lot cheaper.

In recent history diesel had a spike that put it up dramatically relative to gas, but the reasons for that spike are being market-corrected steadily.

In the latest (8/31) DOE price numbers, on a national basis diesel was still a little (not a lot) more than gas, $2.674 vs $2.613. On the West Coast, where both are higher than national, diesel was 15 cents less than gas. Probably because the west coast has already amortized much of the cost of ULSD conversion ahead of the rest of the nation.

There is huge diesel refining capacity set to come online over the next few years as refineries convert to, or build for, hydrocracking instead of cracking. We will be back to much cheaper diesel (compared to gas) within 5 years, I think.

On 9/1/2009 at 11:47 AM dan wrote:

>JW, Pro: Regular unleaded is a lot cheaper than diesel. Con: In an
>accident, gas is a lot more flamable than diesel. In fact I bought a
>diesel boat because I didn't want to be out on the water sitting on top of
>a 260 gallon gas tank.
>
>Dan Williams,88WB38, Jackson,MS
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: oneoutlaw45
> To: "WanderlodgeForum%40yahoogroups.com"
> Sent: Monday, August 31, 2009 3:59 PM
> Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Best engine
>
>
> what would be better? a 391 ford industrial or cat3802? still looking
>to buy a bird and need to get a feel on what engine is better. pro's an
>con's will be helpful. thanks all.
>
> JW