RV 3012 M

[Terry Neal]

Kurt,



I may be interested in your grill & slide. I need to check for
enough room to put it in one of my curb side bays though. Dimensions
are approx.?



Terry

Terry Neal

Bozeman, MT

82PT40 6V92TA

74FC34 6V53T











bumpersbird wrote:







Terry,







Here is the responce from Xantrex Customer Serive.







I did buy 2 of these units. They are new in the box and Sun Electric 



is an aurthorized dealer so the warrantie should be good.







I spoke with several tech guys and of course got several diffrent 



answers. About all aspects of these units.







I was most impressed with a guy from Buddy Gregg Motorhomes in 



Knoxville TN. Wayne Clapp a veteran BB Tech. His first question was 



did I plan on keeping the coach? Well of course. Then you must get 



these inverters out of the engine compartment and into one of the 



bays. So were are going the reinvent the wheel. Not really a problem 



the old compartment is really not large enough for the new inveters. 







With the inverter box empty I think I'll throw in a couple more 



Lifeline gell cells. That will make 8 house batts. Wayne also told me 



he can with the addition of a few relays make the AC run on Batts. 



With the additional 2 Lifeline's and the 2 new invetrers running off 



of 8 Batts. in 2, four Batt. banks I should be able to run 2 AC'S. 



The 300 amp alternator should be able to tow the line. I would be 



nice to run the roof air with out the generator. Any help in fuel 



economy is welcomed.







Any body want to buy a electric grill for their coach? Mine is coming 



out, slide and electric components included. 







I also bought 2 RC7/GS controlers off of e-bay. The were the best 



deal for the $'s.







Kurt Horvath



95 PT-42 WLWB







[ref:00D3Wjr.500350dxJ:ref] 







Dear kurt daniel horvath, 







"Can the RC/GS Remote Panel be use in place of the RC7."







No , this will not work properly. You are better off trying to locate 



an RC7 by seaching the internet and the many dealers who may have a 



NOS unit.







"Is the 24 month warrantie good on these new in the box units?"







If the unit is new in the box and purchased from proper dealer who 



purchased it from a Xantrex Distributor than we shall honor the 



warranty.







Xantrex Technical Support 



Customer Service Operations 



Xantrex Technology Inc. 



Email: "customerservice%40xantrex.com"





Website: www.xantrex.com 



t: (360) 925-5097 / (800) 670-0707 



f: (360) 435-2636 







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--------------- Original Message --------------- 



From: kurt daniel horvath ["kguns%40hughes.net"]





To: "customerservice%40xantrex.com"





Subject: Fw: Case Number (00102708) [ ref:00D3Wjr.500350dxJ:ref

] 







Is the 24 month warrantie good on these new in the box units?







----Original Message----



From: "kguns%40hughes.net"



Date: 05/21/2008 3:27 PM



To: <"customerservice%40xantrex.com">



Subj: RE: Case Number (00102708) [ ref:00D3Wjr.500350dxJ:ref ]







Dear Mr.Nick Klien.







Can the RC/GS Remote Panel be use in place of the RC7.



If so, are there any peculiarities involed or is it just a simple 



choice of which control is available.



Yes price is a consideration here the old unites are new and are an 



exceptional deal at this time.







Thank You for your time,



Kurt Horvath







--- In "WanderlodgeForum%40yahoogroups.com",

Terry Neal "bird@..." wrote:



>



> Hi Kurt,



> 



> Did you receive a response from Xantrex about the RC/GS remote to 



> control this RV 3012 M? I am thinking about ordering one too &





replace 



> all of the old components such as the Redline unit in my PT. Can't





find 



> any info about the two working together.



> Terry



> 



> bumpersbird wrote:



> 



> > Here is my responce from Xantrex to the RV3012M question.



> >



> > I am awaiting a second e-mail to confirm if the new control

panel



> > the RC/GS will funtion as well as the older RC7.



> >



> > According to my local tech guy it will. You should be able to

set



> > the inverter/charger to your particular application.



> >



> > Kurt Horvath



> > 95 PT-42



> >



> > [ref:00D3Wjr.500350dxJ:ref]



> >



> > Dear Kurt Horvath,



> >



> > They are very similar units. Below is an explanation of the 



RV3012M



> > model and then the RV 3012 GS :



> >



> > The RV3012M, which is 3000 watts respectively. These units

were 



only



> > used for Monaco coaches, and the M designation referred to a 



series



> > of default programming items requested by Monaco. (See the

section



> > on “RC7 & RC7GS Setup Menus”.)



> >



> > Two knockouts on the inverter were left open at the factory.



> > Otherwise they were physically indistinguishable from the

regular



> > version, and had no other unique features. Warranty is the

same.



> >



> > The "software" defaults which may be different from standard 



models



> > were:



> > SEARCH SENSE – DEFEAT



> > BAT CAPACITY – AUTO



> > BAT TYPE – LIQUID LEAD ACID



> > CHARGE RATE – 80%



> >



> > The RV 3012 GS is the newer version that replaced the RV

series.



> > This series looks almost the same as the original RV and

largely 



has



> > the same specs and functions. Its main visual distinction is

that



> > it only has two com ports, not three. There were a few 



enhancements



> > made with the Auto Gen Start feature and programming.



> >



> > Both models were designed for RV use.



> >



> > "RV3012 M be reprogramed to standard specs? If so what would

the



> > cost be?"



> >



> > You could program it yourself if you have a RC7, but if you

do not



> > have an RC7 then you might be able to locate one by doing 



a "google"



> > search of the dealers online otherwise they are no longer 



available



> > as they have been obsolete for awhile now.



> >



> > It would be good to update the system rather than repair the 



freedom



> > if they are really 15 years old.



> >



> > I suggest the newer RV 3012 GS model rather than the "M"

model.



> >



> > But if it is a big difference in cost the "M" model will be

fine 



if



> > an RC7 comes with it.



> >



> > For all correspondence regarding this issue, please make sure

to



> > include the case number (00102708) in the subject line of the





email.



> >



> > Technical Support



> > Customer Service Operations



> > Xantrex Technology Inc.



> > Website: www.xantrex.com



> >



> > Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message, including any



> > attachments, is for the sole use of any recipient(s) and may 



contain



> > confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized

review,



> > use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited. If you are not

the



> > intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail

and



> > destroy all copies of the original message.



> >



> > -----------------------------------------



> >



> > Case number: 00102708



> > Case Subject: Xantrex RV 3012 M Inverter / Charger



> > Description: Could you please explain the diffrence between

the



> > model RV 3012 M and the new RV 3012 GS. Is it just an older

model 



or



> > are there significant diffrences between the two units?

RV3012 M 



be



> > reprogramed to standard specs? If so what would the cost

be?Can 



the



> > model



> > I have the old Freedom Combi aqua blue colored units in my

coach.



> > They are 15 years old. would it be better to replace these

unites



> > with the RV 3012 M or should I just have them refurbished. I

am in



> > the process of refubishing all the systems so now is a good

time 



to



> > do the inverter sysytem.



> > Thanks for your time,



> >



> > Kurt Horvath



> >



> >



> > --- In "WanderlodgeForum%40yahoogroups.com"





> > <"Wanderlodge"Forum%40yahoogroups.com>,

"Dorn Hetzel" 







> > wrote:



> > >



> > > ---------- Forwarded message ----------



> > > From: Nick Klein >



> > > Date: Tue, May 20, 2008 at 3:42 PM



> > > Subject: RE: Case Number (00102618) [ 



ref:00D3Wjr.500350ZIy:ref ]



> > > To: "dorn@" 



> > >



> > >



> > > [ref:00D3Wjr.500350ZIy:ref]



> > >



> > >



> > > Dear dorn,



> > >



> > > They are basically exactly the same units, but below is

an



> > explanation:



> > >



> > > This line consisted of models RV2012M, RV2512M, and

RV3012M, 



which



> > were



> > > 2000, 2500 and 3000 watts respectively. These units were

only



> > used for



> > > Monaco coaches, and the M designation referred to a

series of



> > default



> > > programming items requested by Monaco. (See the section

on "RC7 



&



> > RC7GS



> > > Setup Menus".)



> > >



> > > Two knockouts on the inverter were left open at the

factory.



> > Otherwise they



> > > were physically indistinguishable from the regular

version, and



> > had no other



> > > unique features. Warranty is the same.



> > >



> > > The "software" defaults which may be different from

standard



> > models were:



> > > SEARCH SENSE - DEFEAT



> > > BAT CAPACITY - AUTO



> > > BAT TYPE - LIQUID LEAD ACID



> > > CHARGE RATE - 80%



> > >



> > > Yes, both models were designed for RV use.



> > >



> > >



> > > For all correspondence regarding this issue, please make

sure to



> > include the



> > > case number (00102618) in the subject line of the email.



> > >



> > >



> > > Technical Support



> > > Customer Service Operations



> > > Xantrex Technology Inc.



> > > Website: www.xantrex.com



> > >



> > > Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message, including

any



> > attachments, is



> > > for the sole use of any recipient(s) and may contain 



confidential



> > and



> > > privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, 



disclosure or



> > > distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended 



recipient,



> > please



> > > contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all

copies of the



> > original



> > > message.



> > >



> > > -----------------------------------------



> > >



> > > Case number: 00102618



> > > Case Subject: how is rv3012M different from other rv3012



> > > Description: Can you explain the differences between

RV3012M and



> > other



> > > RV3012 models. What does M series software mean? Are

these



> > models still



> > > suitable for an RV application?



> > >



> >



> >



>









 
				

[bumpersbird]

Yeh they told me the same thing, they guy in Bombay told me it stood
for Mobile.
After a lot of question and some industrial espionage they m stands
for Monaco. They ordered these units for thier coaches with some
specific software defaults. All of these can be reprogramed with the
control units.
According to Xantrex there are only minor and superfical modifactions
to any of the RV series inverters/chargers, from what I understand
it's mostly the control panels.

Kurt Horvath
95 PT-42 WLWB

--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Curt Sprenger"
wrote:
>
> A guy at Sun Electronics said the "M" is for "Marine"
units...interesting.
>
> On Fri, May 30, 2008 at 9:32 AM, bumpersbird
wrote:
>
> > Terry,
> >
> > Here is the responce from Xantrex Customer Serive.
> >
> > I did buy 2 of these units. They are new in the box and Sun
Electric
> > is an aurthorized dealer so the warrantie should be good.
> >
> > I spoke with several tech guys and of course got several diffrent
> > answers. About all aspects of these units.
> >
> > I was most impressed with a guy from Buddy Gregg Motorhomes in
> > Knoxville TN. Wayne Clapp a veteran BB Tech. His first question
was
> > did I plan on keeping the coach? Well of course. Then you must get
> > these inverters out of the engine compartment and into one of the
> > bays. So were are going the reinvent the wheel. Not really a
problem
> > the old compartment is really not large enough for the new
inveters.
> >
> > With the inverter box empty I think I'll throw in a couple more
> > Lifeline gell cells. That will make 8 house batts. Wayne also
told me
> > he can with the addition of a few relays make the AC run on Batts.
> > With the additional 2 Lifeline's and the 2 new invetrers running
off
> > of 8 Batts. in 2, four Batt. banks I should be able to run 2 AC'S.
> > The 300 amp alternator should be able to tow the line. I would be
> > nice to run the roof air with out the generator. Any help in fuel
> > economy is welcomed.
> >
> > Any body want to buy a electric grill for their coach? Mine is
coming
> > out, slide and electric components included.
> >
> > I also bought 2 RC7/GS controlers off of e-bay. The were the best
> > deal for the $'s.
> >
> > Kurt Horvath
> > 95 PT-42 WLWB
> >
> > [ref:00D3Wjr.500350dxJ:ref]
> >
> > Dear kurt daniel horvath,
> >
> > "Can the RC/GS Remote Panel be use in place of the RC7."
> >
> > No , this will not work properly. You are better off trying to
locate
> > an RC7 by seaching the internet and the many dealers who may have
a
> > NOS unit.
> >
> > "Is the 24 month warrantie good on these new in the box units?"
> >
> > If the unit is new in the box and purchased from proper dealer who
> > purchased it from a Xantrex Distributor than we shall honor the
> > warranty.
> >
> > Xantrex Technical Support
> > Customer Service Operations
> > Xantrex Technology Inc.
> > Email: customerservice@...
> > Website: http://www.xantrex.com
> > t: (360) 925-5097 / (800) 670-0707
> > f: (360) 435-2636
> >
> > Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message, including any
> > attachments, is for the sole use of any recipient(s) and may
contain
> > confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review,
> > use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the
> > intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and
> > destroy all copies of the original message.
> >
> > --------------- Original Message ---------------
> > From: kurt daniel horvath [kguns@... ]
> > To: customerservice@...
> > Subject: Fw: Case Number (00102708) [ ref:00D3Wjr.500350dxJ:ref ]
> >
> > Is the 24 month warrantie good on these new in the box units?
> >
> > ----Original Message----
> > From: kguns@...
> > Date: 05/21/2008 3:27 PM
> > To: >
> > Subj: RE: Case Number (00102708) [ ref:00D3Wjr.500350dxJ:ref ]
> >
> > Dear Mr.Nick Klien.
> >
> > Can the RC/GS Remote Panel be use in place of the RC7.
> > If so, are there any peculiarities involed or is it just a simple
> > choice of which control is available.
> > Yes price is a consideration here the old unites are new and are
an
> > exceptional deal at this time.
> >
> > Thank You for your time,
> > Kurt Horvath
> >
> >
> > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com 40yahoogroups.com>,
> > Terry Neal wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi Kurt,
> > >
> > > Did you receive a response from Xantrex about the RC/GS remote
to
> > > control this RV 3012 M? I am thinking about ordering one too &
> > replace
> > > all of the old components such as the Redline unit in my PT.
Can't
> > find
> > > any info about the two working together.
> > > Terry
> > >
> > > bumpersbird wrote:
> > >
> > > > Here is my responce from Xantrex to the RV3012M question.
> > > >
> > > > I am awaiting a second e-mail to confirm if the new control
panel
> > > > the RC/GS will funtion as well as the older RC7.
> > > >
> > > > According to my local tech guy it will. You should be able to
set
> > > > the inverter/charger to your particular application.
> > > >
> > > > Kurt Horvath
> > > > 95 PT-42
> > > >
> > > > [ref:00D3Wjr.500350dxJ:ref]
> > > >
> > > > Dear Kurt Horvath,
> > > >
> > > > They are very similar units. Below is an explanation of the
> > RV3012M
> > > > model and then the RV 3012 GS :
> > > >
> > > > The RV3012M, which is 3000 watts respectively. These units
were
> > only
> > > > used for Monaco coaches, and the M designation referred to a
> > series
> > > > of default programming items requested by Monaco. (See the
section
> > > > on “RC7 & RC7GS Setup Menus”.)
> > > >
> > > > Two knockouts on the inverter were left open at the factory.
> > > > Otherwise they were physically indistinguishable from the
regular
> > > > version, and had no other unique features. Warranty is the
same.
> > > >
> > > > The "software" defaults which may be different from standard
> > models
> > > > were:
> > > > SEARCH SENSE – DEFEAT
> > > > BAT CAPACITY – AUTO
> > > > BAT TYPE – LIQUID LEAD ACID
> > > > CHARGE RATE – 80%
> > > >
> > > > The RV 3012 GS is the newer version that replaced the RV
series.
> > > > This series looks almost the same as the original RV and
largely
> > has
> > > > the same specs and functions. Its main visual distinction is
that
> > > > it only has two com ports, not three. There were a few
> > enhancements
> > > > made with the Auto Gen Start feature and programming.
> > > >
> > > > Both models were designed for RV use.
> > > >
> > > > "RV3012 M be reprogramed to standard specs? If so what would
the
> > > > cost be?"
> > > >
> > > > You could program it yourself if you have a RC7, but if you
do not
> > > > have an RC7 then you might be able to locate one by doing
> > a "google"
> > > > search of the dealers online otherwise they are no longer
> > available
> > > > as they have been obsolete for awhile now.
> > > >
> > > > It would be good to update the system rather than repair the
> > freedom
> > > > if they are really 15 years old.
> > > >
> > > > I suggest the newer RV 3012 GS model rather than the "M"
model.
> > > >
> > > > But if it is a big difference in cost the "M" model will be
fine
> > if
> > > > an RC7 comes with it.
> > > >
> > > > For all correspondence regarding this issue, please make sure
to
> > > > include the case number (00102708) in the subject line of the
> > email.
> > > >
> > > > Technical Support
> > > > Customer Service Operations
> > > > Xantrex Technology Inc.
> > > > Website: http://www.xantrex.com
> > > >
> > > > Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message, including any
> > > > attachments, is for the sole use of any recipient(s) and may
> > contain
> > > > confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized
review,
> > > > use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited. If you are not
the
> > > > intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail
and
> > > > destroy all copies of the original message.
> > > >
> > > > -----------------------------------------
> > > >
> > > > Case number: 00102708
> > > > Case Subject: Xantrex RV 3012 M Inverter / Charger
> > > > Description: Could you please explain the diffrence between
the
> > > > model RV 3012 M and the new RV 3012 GS. Is it just an older
model
> > or
> > > > are there significant diffrences between the two units?
RV3012 M
> > be
> > > > reprogramed to standard specs? If so what would the cost be?
Can
> > the
> > > > model
> > > > I have the old Freedom Combi aqua blue colored units in my
coach.
> > > > They are 15 years old. would it be better to replace these
unites
> > > > with the RV 3012 M or should I just have them refurbished. I
am in
> > > > the process of refubishing all the systems so now is a good
time
> > to
> > > > do the inverter sysytem.
> > > > Thanks for your time,
> > > >
> > > > Kurt Horvath
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com 40yahoogroups.com>
> > > > 2540yahoogroups.com>>,
> > "Dorn Hetzel"
> >
> > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> > > > > From: Nick Klein
> > > > > Date: Tue, May 20, 2008 at 3:42 PM
> > > > > Subject: RE: Case Number (00102618) [
> > ref:00D3Wjr.500350ZIy:ref ]
> > > > > To: "dorn@"
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > [ref:00D3Wjr.500350ZIy:ref]
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Dear dorn,
> > > > >
> > > > > They are basically exactly the same units, but below is an
> > > > explanation:
> > > > >
> > > > > This line consisted of models RV2012M, RV2512M, and RV3012M,
> > which
> > > > were
> > > > > 2000, 2500 and 3000 watts respectively. These units were
only
> > > > used for
> > > > > Monaco coaches, and the M designation referred to a series
of
> > > > default
> > > > > programming items requested by Monaco. (See the section
on "RC7
> > &
> > > > RC7GS
> > > > > Setup Menus".)
> > > > >
> > > > > Two knockouts on the inverter were left open at the factory.
> > > > Otherwise they
> > > > > were physically indistinguishable from the regular version,
and
> > > > had no other
> > > > > unique features. Warranty is the same.
> > > > >
> > > > > The "software" defaults which may be different from standard
> > > > models were:
> > > > > SEARCH SENSE - DEFEAT
> > > > > BAT CAPACITY - AUTO
> > > > > BAT TYPE - LIQUID LEAD ACID
> > > > > CHARGE RATE - 80%
> > > > >
> > > > > Yes, both models were designed for RV use.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > For all correspondence regarding this issue, please make
sure to
> > > > include the
> > > > > case number (00102618) in the subject line of the email.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Technical Support
> > > > > Customer Service Operations
> > > > > Xantrex Technology Inc.
> > > > > Website: http://www.xantrex.com
> > > > >
> > > > > Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message, including any
> > > > attachments, is
> > > > > for the sole use of any recipient(s) and may contain
> > confidential
> > > > and
> > > > > privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use,
> > disclosure or
> > > > > distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended
> > recipient,
> > > > please
> > > > > contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies
of the
> > > > original
> > > > > message.
> > > > >
> > > > > -----------------------------------------
> > > > >
> > > > > Case number: 00102618
> > > > > Case Subject: how is rv3012M different from other rv3012
> > > > > Description: Can you explain the differences between
RV3012M and
> > > > other
> > > > > RV3012 models. What does M series software mean? Are these
> > > > models still
> > > > > suitable for an RV application?
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
> --
> Curt Sprenger
> 1987 PT38 8V92 "MacAttack Racing"
> Anaheim Hills, CA
>

[bumpersbird]

Terry,

Just to be sure I called Sun Electronics again to verify their status
as a Xanterx dealer and they confirmed that they are a Xantrex dealer.

I would like to get this all done in the next 2 to 3 weeks but if
Icould look into the future, you know what I mean.

I am still working on the engine bay cooling fans and I just got
a '07 DDEC IV ECM with it programing to my coach as a back-up. So
I've got a lot stuff to play with.

Kurt Horvath 95 PT-42 WLWB


--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, Terry Neal wrote:
>
> Thanks Kurt. Nice report.
>
> I too was getting differing stories from different people. One of
the
> techs at Xantrex told me Sun Electronics wasn't even an authorized
> dealer or distributor & there was no record of them in their
listing.
> Of course, he didn't speak English that I could understand real
well so
> he may have be sitting in Bombay? Also, he kept saying there was
no RV
> 3012 "M" inverter either.
>
> In my PT, to install an inverter outside the engine compartment
means I
> change a lot of wiring. Yours is probably the same. May be the
best
> solution though. I was also thinking I may be able to build a
> compartment where the Rediline used to be and put it in there?
Like
> your idea of running a couple of ACs with the Detroit while
underway. I
> take it you are going to wire your system with the Gen Start
feature.
> That would be a good idea too.
>
> Do you have a time frame for all of this? I may wait a little
while to
> see how you accomplish all of the changes. Please share your
progress
> with us. I much appreciate it.
>
> Terry
>
> Terry Neal
> Bozeman, MT
> 82PT40 6V92TA
> 74FC34 6V53T
>
>
>
> bumpersbird wrote:
>
> > Terry,
> >
> > Here is the responce from Xantrex Customer Serive.
> >
> > I did buy 2 of these units. They are new in the box and Sun
Electric
> > is an aurthorized dealer so the warrantie should be good.
> >
> > I spoke with several tech guys and of course got several diffrent
> > answers. About all aspects of these units.
> >
> > I was most impressed with a guy from Buddy Gregg Motorhomes in
> > Knoxville TN. Wayne Clapp a veteran BB Tech. His first question
was
> > did I plan on keeping the coach? Well of course. Then you must get
> > these inverters out of the engine compartment and into one of the
> > bays. So were are going the reinvent the wheel. Not really a
problem
> > the old compartment is really not large enough for the new
inveters.
> >
> > With the inverter box empty I think I'll throw in a couple more
> > Lifeline gell cells. That will make 8 house batts. Wayne also
told me
> > he can with the addition of a few relays make the AC run on Batts.
> > With the additional 2 Lifeline's and the 2 new invetrers running
off
> > of 8 Batts. in 2, four Batt. banks I should be able to run 2 AC'S.
> > The 300 amp alternator should be able to tow the line. I would be
> > nice to run the roof air with out the generator. Any help in fuel
> > economy is welcomed.
> >
> > Any body want to buy a electric grill for their coach? Mine is
coming
> > out, slide and electric components included.
> >
> > I also bought 2 RC7/GS controlers off of e-bay. The were the best
> > deal for the $'s.
> >
> > Kurt Horvath
> > 95 PT-42 WLWB
> >
> > [ref:00D3Wjr.500350dxJ:ref]
> >
> > Dear kurt daniel horvath,
> >
> > "Can the RC/GS Remote Panel be use in place of the RC7."
> >
> > No , this will not work properly. You are better off trying to
locate
> > an RC7 by seaching the internet and the many dealers who may have
a
> > NOS unit.
> >
> > "Is the 24 month warrantie good on these new in the box units?"
> >
> > If the unit is new in the box and purchased from proper dealer who
> > purchased it from a Xantrex Distributor than we shall honor the
> > warranty.
> >
> > Xantrex Technical Support
> > Customer Service Operations
> > Xantrex Technology Inc.
> > Email: customerservice@...
> > Website: http://www.xantrex.com
> > t: (360) 925-5097 / (800) 670-0707
> > f: (360) 435-2636
> >
> > Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message, including any
> > attachments, is for the sole use of any recipient(s) and may
contain
> > confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review,
> > use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the
> > intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and
> > destroy all copies of the original message.
> >
> > --------------- Original Message ---------------
> > From: kurt daniel horvath [kguns@... ]
> > To: customerservice@...
> > Subject: Fw: Case Number (00102708) [ ref:00D3Wjr.500350dxJ:ref ]
> >
> > Is the 24 month warrantie good on these new in the box units?
> >
> > ----Original Message----
> > From: kguns@...
> > Date: 05/21/2008 3:27 PM
> > To: >
> > Subj: RE: Case Number (00102708) [ ref:00D3Wjr.500350dxJ:ref ]
> >
> > Dear Mr.Nick Klien.
> >
> > Can the RC/GS Remote Panel be use in place of the RC7.
> > If so, are there any peculiarities involed or is it just a simple
> > choice of which control is available.
> > Yes price is a consideration here the old unites are new and are
an
> > exceptional deal at this time.
> >
> > Thank You for your time,
> > Kurt Horvath
> >
> > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
> > , Terry Neal
wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi Kurt,
> > >
> > > Did you receive a response from Xantrex about the RC/GS remote
to
> > > control this RV 3012 M? I am thinking about ordering one too &
> > replace
> > > all of the old components such as the Redline unit in my PT.
Can't
> > find
> > > any info about the two working together.
> > > Terry
> > >
> > > bumpersbird wrote:
> > >
> > > > Here is my responce from Xantrex to the RV3012M question.
> > > >
> > > > I am awaiting a second e-mail to confirm if the new control
panel
> > > > the RC/GS will funtion as well as the older RC7.
> > > >
> > > > According to my local tech guy it will. You should be able to
set
> > > > the inverter/charger to your particular application.
> > > >
> > > > Kurt Horvath
> > > > 95 PT-42
> > > >
> > > > [ref:00D3Wjr.500350dxJ:ref]
> > > >
> > > > Dear Kurt Horvath,
> > > >
> > > > They are very similar units. Below is an explanation of the
> > RV3012M
> > > > model and then the RV 3012 GS :
> > > >
> > > > The RV3012M, which is 3000 watts respectively. These units
were
> > only
> > > > used for Monaco coaches, and the M designation referred to a
> > series
> > > > of default programming items requested by Monaco. (See the
section
> > > > on “RC7 & RC7GS Setup Menus”.)
> > > >
> > > > Two knockouts on the inverter were left open at the factory.
> > > > Otherwise they were physically indistinguishable from the
regular
> > > > version, and had no other unique features. Warranty is the
same.
> > > >
> > > > The "software" defaults which may be different from standard
> > models
> > > > were:
> > > > SEARCH SENSE – DEFEAT
> > > > BAT CAPACITY – AUTO
> > > > BAT TYPE – LIQUID LEAD ACID
> > > > CHARGE RATE – 80%
> > > >
> > > > The RV 3012 GS is the newer version that replaced the RV
series.
> > > > This series looks almost the same as the original RV and
largely
> > has
> > > > the same specs and functions. Its main visual distinction is
that
> > > > it only has two com ports, not three. There were a few
> > enhancements
> > > > made with the Auto Gen Start feature and programming.
> > > >
> > > > Both models were designed for RV use.
> > > >
> > > > "RV3012 M be reprogramed to standard specs? If so what would
the
> > > > cost be?"
> > > >
> > > > You could program it yourself if you have a RC7, but if you
do not
> > > > have an RC7 then you might be able to locate one by doing
> > a "google"
> > > > search of the dealers online otherwise they are no longer
> > available
> > > > as they have been obsolete for awhile now.
> > > >
> > > > It would be good to update the system rather than repair the
> > freedom
> > > > if they are really 15 years old.
> > > >
> > > > I suggest the newer RV 3012 GS model rather than the "M"
model.
> > > >
> > > > But if it is a big difference in cost the "M" model will be
fine
> > if
> > > > an RC7 comes with it.
> > > >
> > > > For all correspondence regarding this issue, please make sure
to
> > > > include the case number (00102708) in the subject line of the
> > email.
> > > >
> > > > Technical Support
> > > > Customer Service Operations
> > > > Xantrex Technology Inc.
> > > > Website: http://www.xantrex.com
> > > >
> > > > Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message, including any
> > > > attachments, is for the sole use of any recipient(s) and may
> > contain
> > > > confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized
review,
> > > > use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited. If you are not
the
> > > > intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail
and
> > > > destroy all copies of the original message.
> > > >
> > > > -----------------------------------------
> > > >
> > > > Case number: 00102708
> > > > Case Subject: Xantrex RV 3012 M Inverter / Charger
> > > > Description: Could you please explain the diffrence between
the
> > > > model RV 3012 M and the new RV 3012 GS. Is it just an older
model
> > or
> > > > are there significant diffrences between the two units?
RV3012 M
> > be
> > > > reprogramed to standard specs? If so what would the cost be?
Can
> > the
> > > > model
> > > > I have the old Freedom Combi aqua blue colored units in my
coach.
> > > > They are 15 years old. would it be better to replace these
unites
> > > > with the RV 3012 M or should I just have them refurbished. I
am in
> > > > the process of refubishing all the systems so now is a good
time
> > to
> > > > do the inverter sysytem.
> > > > Thanks for your time,
> > > >
> > > > Kurt Horvath
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
> >
> > > > , "Dorn Hetzel"
> >
> > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> > > > > From: Nick Klein
> > > > > Date: Tue, May 20, 2008 at 3:42 PM
> > > > > Subject: RE: Case Number (00102618) [
> > ref:00D3Wjr.500350ZIy:ref ]
> > > > > To: "dorn@"
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > [ref:00D3Wjr.500350ZIy:ref]
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Dear dorn,
> > > > >
> > > > > They are basically exactly the same units, but below is an
> > > > explanation:
> > > > >
> > > > > This line consisted of models RV2012M, RV2512M, and RV3012M,
> > which
> > > > were
> > > > > 2000, 2500 and 3000 watts respectively. These units were
only
> > > > used for
> > > > > Monaco coaches, and the M designation referred to a series
of
> > > > default
> > > > > programming items requested by Monaco. (See the section
on "RC7
> > &
> > > > RC7GS
> > > > > Setup Menus".)
> > > > >
> > > > > Two knockouts on the inverter were left open at the factory.
> > > > Otherwise they
> > > > > were physically indistinguishable from the regular version,
and
> > > > had no other
> > > > > unique features. Warranty is the same.
> > > > >
> > > > > The "software" defaults which may be different from standard
> > > > models were:
> > > > > SEARCH SENSE - DEFEAT
> > > > > BAT CAPACITY - AUTO
> > > > > BAT TYPE - LIQUID LEAD ACID
> > > > > CHARGE RATE - 80%
> > > > >
> > > > > Yes, both models were designed for RV use.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > For all correspondence regarding this issue, please make
sure to
> > > > include the
> > > > > case number (00102618) in the subject line of the email.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Technical Support
> > > > > Customer Service Operations
> > > > > Xantrex Technology Inc.
> > > > > Website: http://www.xantrex.com
> > > > >
> > > > > Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message, including any
> > > > attachments, is
> > > > > for the sole use of any recipient(s) and may contain
> > confidential
> > > > and
> > > > > privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use,
> > disclosure or
> > > > > distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended
> > recipient,
> > > > please
> > > > > contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies
of the
> > > > original
> > > > > message.
> > > > >
> > > > > -----------------------------------------
> > > > >
> > > > > Case number: 00102618
> > > > > Case Subject: how is rv3012M different from other rv3012
> > > > > Description: Can you explain the differences between
RV3012M and
> > > > other
> > > > > RV3012 models. What does M series software mean? Are these
> > > > models still
> > > > > suitable for an RV application?
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> >
>

[Dorn Hetzel]

In my 77FC35 the batteries are at the far left front corner, no space for the inverter in their compartment anyway.

The current battery charger (not an inverter) is about midway back on the left side, same compartment as sewage host storage, probably ten feet from the batteries, doesn't really seem like an optimum location for the Xantrex.


Would I be crazy to put it inside the coach? There's a storage compartment right behind the drivers seat that's probably big enough, and within 2 feet of the batteries.

Another question. The Xantrex hookup diagrams seem to show the batteries directly connected to the 3012, and all coach loads hung behind it. Since I have combined coach and starting batteries in my 77, I don't think I should be running starting current through the 3012?


I was considering pulling the generator, which we never ever use, and filling that compartment with "house" batteries and a more weatherproof box for the inverter... Too whacky?

Dorn Hetzel
77FC35

Hogansville, GA

On Fri, May 30, 2008 at 1:59 PM, bumpersbird <"bumpersbird@yahoo.com"> wrote:

Terry,



Just to be sure I called Sun Electronics again to verify their status

as a Xanterx dealer and they confirmed that they are a Xantrex dealer.



I would like to get this all done in the next 2 to 3 weeks but if

Icould look into the future, you know what I mean.



I am still working on the engine bay cooling fans and I just got

a '07 DDEC IV ECM with it programing to my coach as a back-up. So

I've got a lot stuff to play with.

Kurt Horvath 95 PT-42 WLWB

--- In "WanderlodgeForum%40yahoogroups.com", Terry Neal wrote:

>

> Thanks Kurt. Nice report.

>

> I too was getting differing stories from different people. One of

the

> techs at Xantrex told me Sun Electronics wasn't even an authorized

> dealer or distributor & there was no record of them in their

listing.

> Of course, he didn't speak English that I could understand real

well so

> he may have be sitting in Bombay? Also, he kept saying there was

no RV

> 3012 "M" inverter either.

>

> In my PT, to install an inverter outside the engine compartment

means I

> change a lot of wiring. Yours is probably the same. May be the

best

> solution though. I was also thinking I may be able to build a

> compartment where the Rediline used to be and put it in there?

Like

> your idea of running a couple of ACs with the Detroit while

underway. I

> take it you are going to wire your system with the Gen Start

feature.

> That would be a good idea too.

>

> Do you have a time frame for all of this? I may wait a little

while to

> see how you accomplish all of the changes. Please share your

progress

> with us. I much appreciate it.

>

> Terry

>

> Terry Neal

> Bozeman, MT

> 82PT40 6V92TA

> 74FC34 6V53T

>

>

>

> bumpersbird wrote:

>

> > Terry,

> >

> > Here is the responce from Xantrex Customer Serive.

> >

> > I did buy 2 of these units. They are new in the box and Sun

Electric

> > is an aurthorized dealer so the warrantie should be good.

> >

> > I spoke with several tech guys and of course got several diffrent

> > answers. About all aspects of these units.

> >

> > I was most impressed with a guy from Buddy Gregg Motorhomes in

> > Knoxville TN. Wayne Clapp a veteran BB Tech. His first question

was

> > did I plan on keeping the coach? Well of course. Then you must get

> > these inverters out of the engine compartment and into one of the

> > bays. So were are going the reinvent the wheel. Not really a

problem

> > the old compartment is really not large enough for the new

inveters.

> >

> > With the inverter box empty I think I'll throw in a couple more

> > Lifeline gell cells. That will make 8 house batts. Wayne also

told me

> > he can with the addition of a few relays make the AC run on Batts.

> > With the additional 2 Lifeline's and the 2 new invetrers running

off

> > of 8 Batts. in 2, four Batt. banks I should be able to run 2 AC'S.

> > The 300 amp alternator should be able to tow the line. I would be

> > nice to run the roof air with out the generator. Any help in fuel

> > economy is welcomed.

> >

> > Any body want to buy a electric grill for their coach? Mine is

coming

> > out, slide and electric components included.

> >

> > I also bought 2 RC7/GS controlers off of e-bay. The were the best

> > deal for the $'s.

> >

> > Kurt Horvath

> > 95 PT-42 WLWB

> >

> > [ref:00D3Wjr.500350dxJ:ref]

> >

> > Dear kurt daniel horvath,

> >

> > "Can the RC/GS Remote Panel be use in place of the RC7."

> >

> > No , this will not work properly. You are better off trying to

locate

> > an RC7 by seaching the internet and the many dealers who may have

a

> > NOS unit.

> >

> > "Is the 24 month warrantie good on these new in the box units?"

> >

> > If the unit is new in the box and purchased from proper dealer who

> > purchased it from a Xantrex Distributor than we shall honor the

> > warranty.

> >

> > Xantrex Technical Support

> > Customer Service Operations

> > Xantrex Technology Inc.

> > Email: customerservice@...

> > Website: www.xantrex.com

> > t: (360) 925-5097 / (800) 670-0707

> > f: (360) 435-2636

> >

> > Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message, including any

> > attachments, is for the sole use of any recipient(s) and may

contain

> > confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review,

> > use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the

> > intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and

> > destroy all copies of the original message.

> >

> > --------------- Original Message ---------------

> > From: kurt daniel horvath [kguns@... ]

> > To: customerservice@...

> > Subject: Fw: Case Number (00102708) [ ref:00D3Wjr.500350dxJ:ref ]

> >

> > Is the 24 month warrantie good on these new in the box units?

> >

> > ----Original Message----

> > From: kguns@...

> > Date: 05/21/2008 3:27 PM

> > To: >

> > Subj: RE: Case Number (00102708) [ ref:00D3Wjr.500350dxJ:ref ]

> >

> > Dear Mr.Nick Klien.

> >

> > Can the RC/GS Remote Panel be use in place of the RC7.

> > If so, are there any peculiarities involed or is it just a simple

> > choice of which control is available.

> > Yes price is a consideration here the old unites are new and are

an

> > exceptional deal at this time.

> >

> > Thank You for your time,

> > Kurt Horvath

> >

> > --- In "WanderlodgeForum%40yahoogroups.com"

> > , Terry Neal

wrote:

> > >

> > > Hi Kurt,

> > >

> > > Did you receive a response from Xantrex about the RC/GS remote

to

> > > control this RV 3012 M? I am thinking about ordering one too &

> > replace

> > > all of the old components such as the Redline unit in my PT.

Can't

> > find

> > > any info about the two working together.

> > > Terry

> > >

> > > bumpersbird wrote:

> > >

> > > > Here is my responce from Xantrex to the RV3012M question.

> > > >

> > > > I am awaiting a second e-mail to confirm if the new control

panel

> > > > the RC/GS will funtion as well as the older RC7.

> > > >

> > > > According to my local tech guy it will. You should be able to

set

> > > > the inverter/charger to your particular application.

> > > >

> > > > Kurt Horvath

> > > > 95 PT-42

> > > >

> > > > [ref:00D3Wjr.500350dxJ:ref]

> > > >

> > > > Dear Kurt Horvath,

> > > >

> > > > They are very similar units. Below is an explanation of the

> > RV3012M

> > > > model and then the RV 3012 GS :

> > > >

> > > > The RV3012M, which is 3000 watts respectively. These units

were

> > only

> > > > used for Monaco coaches, and the M designation referred to a

> > series

> > > > of default programming items requested by Monaco. (See the

section

> > > > on “RC7 & RC7GS Setup Menus”.)

> > > >

> > > > Two knockouts on the inverter were left open at the factory.

> > > > Otherwise they were physically indistinguishable from the

regular

> > > > version, and had no other unique features. Warranty is the

same.

> > > >

> > > > The "software" defaults which may be different from standard

> > models

> > > > were:

> > > > SEARCH SENSE – DEFEAT

> > > > BAT CAPACITY – AUTO

> > > > BAT TYPE – LIQUID LEAD ACID

> > > > CHARGE RATE – 80%

> > > >

> > > > The RV 3012 GS is the newer version that replaced the RV

series.

> > > > This series looks almost the same as the original RV and

largely

> > has

> > > > the same specs and functions. Its main visual distinction is

that

> > > > it only has two com ports, not three. There were a few

> > enhancements

> > > > made with the Auto Gen Start feature and programming.

> > > >

> > > > Both models were designed for RV use.

> > > >

> > > > "RV3012 M be reprogramed to standard specs? If so what would

the

> > > > cost be?"

> > > >

> > > > You could program it yourself if you have a RC7, but if you

do not

> > > > have an RC7 then you might be able to locate one by doing

> > a "google"

> > > > search of the dealers online otherwise they are no longer

> > available

> > > > as they have been obsolete for awhile now.

> > > >

> > > > It would be good to update the system rather than repair the

> > freedom

> > > > if they are really 15 years old.

> > > >

> > > > I suggest the newer RV 3012 GS model rather than the "M"

model.

> > > >

> > > > But if it is a big difference in cost the "M" model will be

fine

> > if

> > > > an RC7 comes with it.

> > > >

> > > > For all correspondence regarding this issue, please make sure

to

> > > > include the case number (00102708) in the subject line of the

> > email.

> > > >

> > > > Technical Support

> > > > Customer Service Operations

> > > > Xantrex Technology Inc.

> > > > Website: www.xantrex.com

> > > >

> > > > Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message, including any

> > > > attachments, is for the sole use of any recipient(s) and may

> > contain

> > > > confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized

review,

> > > > use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited. If you are not

the

> > > > intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail

and

> > > > destroy all copies of the original message.

> > > >

> > > > -----------------------------------------

> > > >

> > > > Case number: 00102708

> > > > Case Subject: Xantrex RV 3012 M Inverter / Charger

> > > > Description: Could you please explain the diffrence between

the

> > > > model RV 3012 M and the new RV 3012 GS. Is it just an older

model

> > or

> > > > are there significant diffrences between the two units?

RV3012 M

> > be

> > > > reprogramed to standard specs? If so what would the cost be?

Can

> > the

> > > > model

> > > > I have the old Freedom Combi aqua blue colored units in my

coach.

> > > > They are 15 years old. would it be better to replace these

unites

> > > > with the RV 3012 M or should I just have them refurbished. I

am in

> > > > the process of refubishing all the systems so now is a good

time

> > to

> > > > do the inverter sysytem.

> > > > Thanks for your time,

> > > >

> > > > Kurt Horvath

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > --- In "WanderlodgeForum%40yahoogroups.com"

> >

> > > > , "Dorn Hetzel"

> >

> > > > wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > ---------- Forwarded message ----------

> > > > > From: Nick Klein

> > > > > Date: Tue, May 20, 2008 at 3:42 PM

> > > > > Subject: RE: Case Number (00102618) [

> > ref:00D3Wjr.500350ZIy:ref ]

> > > > > To: "dorn@"

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > [ref:00D3Wjr.500350ZIy:ref]

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear dorn,

> > > > >

> > > > > They are basically exactly the same units, but below is an

> > > > explanation:

> > > > >

> > > > > This line consisted of models RV2012M, RV2512M, and RV3012M,

> > which

> > > > were

> > > > > 2000, 2500 and 3000 watts respectively. These units were

only

> > > > used for

> > > > > Monaco coaches, and the M designation referred to a series

of

> > > > default

> > > > > programming items requested by Monaco. (See the section

on "RC7

> > &

> > > > RC7GS

> > > > > Setup Menus".)

> > > > >

> > > > > Two knockouts on the inverter were left open at the factory.

> > > > Otherwise they

> > > > > were physically indistinguishable from the regular version,

and

> > > > had no other

> > > > > unique features. Warranty is the same.

> > > > >

> > > > > The "software" defaults which may be different from standard

> > > > models were:

> > > > > SEARCH SENSE - DEFEAT

> > > > > BAT CAPACITY - AUTO

> > > > > BAT TYPE - LIQUID LEAD ACID

> > > > > CHARGE RATE - 80%

> > > > >

> > > > > Yes, both models were designed for RV use.

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > For all correspondence regarding this issue, please make

sure to

> > > > include the

> > > > > case number (00102618) in the subject line of the email.

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Technical Support

> > > > > Customer Service Operations

> > > > > Xantrex Technology Inc.

> > > > > Website: www.xantrex.com

> > > > >

> > > > > Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message, including any

> > > > attachments, is

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> > > > > Case number: 00102618

> > > > > Case Subject: how is rv3012M different from other rv3012

> > > > > Description: Can you explain the differences between

RV3012M and

> > > > other

> > > > > RV3012 models. What does M series software mean? Are these

> > > > models still

> > > > > suitable for an RV application?

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

> >

>

[joepat50]

Hi Dorn,

I picked up one of the 3012's and got the RC7 too. Like you was
curious about the wiring so gave Xantrex a call, they said you can
leave the wiring the way it is, but you loose the ability to measure
the current flow from the batteries. Not a big deal as we have the
shunts on the + side of the batteries.


HTH, Joe

'87 PT40
San Francisco



--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Dorn Hetzel"
wrote:
>
> In my 77FC35 the batteries are at the far left front corner, no
space for
> the inverter in their compartment anyway.
>
> The current battery charger (not an inverter) is about midway back
on the
> left side, same compartment as sewage host storage, probably ten
feet from
> the batteries, doesn't really seem like an optimum location for the
> Xantrex.
>
> Would I be crazy to put it inside the coach? There's a storage
compartment
> right behind the drivers seat that's probably big enough, and within
2 feet
> of the batteries.
>
> Another question. The Xantrex hookup diagrams seem to show the
batteries
> directly connected to the 3012, and all coach loads hung behind it.
Since I
> have combined coach and starting batteries in my 77, I don't think I
should
> be running starting current through the 3012?
>
> I was considering pulling the generator, which we never ever use, and
> filling that compartment with "house" batteries and a more
weatherproof box
> for the inverter... Too whacky?
>
> Dorn Hetzel
> 77FC35
> Hogansville, GA
>

[erniecarpet@...]

Terry, have you had any service tech look at your Cruise Airs? My front one works, ok. The mid one needs help. The rear, I gave the compressor to Ralph a few years back when I installed a roof air.

Ernie Ekberg
83PT40
Livingston, Montana

wishing that I at least could open the windows instead of running the HEAT!!

---

Get trade secrets for amazing burgers. Watch "Cooking with Tyler Florence" on AOL Food.

[Dorn Hetzel]

I was considering a split at the batteries to the starter and the 3012 and put everything else behind the 3012, if I can isolate the starter from everything else.

On Fri, May 30, 2008 at 3:42 PM, joepat50 <"jgarner@dslextreme.com"> wrote:

Hi Dorn,



I picked up one of the 3012's and got the RC7 too. Like you was

curious about the wiring so gave Xantrex a call, they said you can

leave the wiring the way it is, but you loose the ability to measure

the current flow from the batteries. Not a big deal as we have the

shunts on the + side of the batteries.



HTH, Joe



'87 PT40

San Francisco



--- In "WanderlodgeForum%40yahoogroups.com", "Dorn Hetzel"

wrote:

>

> In my 77FC35 the batteries are at the far left front corner, no

space for

> the inverter in their compartment anyway.

>

> The current battery charger (not an inverter) is about midway back

on the

> left side, same compartment as sewage host storage, probably ten

feet from

> the batteries, doesn't really seem like an optimum location for the

> Xantrex.

>

> Would I be crazy to put it inside the coach? There's a storage

compartment

> right behind the drivers seat that's probably big enough, and within

2 feet

> of the batteries.

>

> Another question. The Xantrex hookup diagrams seem to show the

batteries

> directly connected to the 3012, and all coach loads hung behind it.

Since I

> have combined coach and starting batteries in my 77, I don't think I

should

> be running starting current through the 3012?

>

> I was considering pulling the generator, which we never ever use, and

> filling that compartment with "house" batteries and a more

weatherproof box

> for the inverter... Too whacky?

>

> Dorn Hetzel

> 77FC35

> Hogansville, GA

>

[Terry Neal]

Thanks much Kurt. Sounds like you do have a few big projects
underway. I am going to buy one of the RV 3012 Ms & the RC7/GS
remote. Looks like a very good setup & you can't beat the cost for
the RV3012M.



I wonder if I could run one of my ACs on a single 3000 watt? I have
the 3 basement ACs. I only have 2 of the 4D batteries in the back now
to run the house & engine starting. I would need to beef up the
batteries but I can do that by stacking them into the space the
Rediline used to sit in plus build a new shelf above that space. Have
another gen set battery up front.



Terry

Terry Neal

Bozeman, MT

82PT40 6V92TA

74FC34 6V53T











bumpersbird wrote:







Terry,







Just to be sure I called Sun Electronics again to verify their status 



as a Xanterx dealer and they confirmed that they are a Xantrex dealer.







I would like to get this all done in the next 2 to 3 weeks but if 



Icould look into the future, you know what I mean.







I am still working on the engine bay cooling fans and I just got 



a '07 DDEC IV ECM with it programing to my coach as a back-up. So 



I've got a lot stuff to play with.







Kurt Horvath 95 PT-42 WLWB 







--- In "WanderlodgeForum%40yahoogroups.com",

Terry Neal "bird@..." wrote:



>



> Thanks Kurt. Nice report. 



> 



> I too was getting differing stories from different people. One of 



the 



> techs at Xantrex told me Sun Electronics wasn't even an authorized





> dealer or distributor & there was no record of them in their 



listing. 



> Of course, he didn't speak English that I could understand real 



well so 



> he may have be sitting in Bombay? Also, he kept saying there was 



no RV 



> 3012 "M" inverter either.



> 



> In my PT, to install an inverter outside the engine compartment 



means I 



> change a lot of wiring. Yours is probably the same. May be the 



best 



> solution though. I was also thinking I may be able to build a 



> compartment where the Rediline used to be and put it in there? 



Like 



> your idea of running a couple of ACs with the Detroit while 



underway. I 



> take it you are going to wire your system with the Gen Start 



feature. 



> That would be a good idea too.



> 



> Do you have a time frame for all of this? I may wait a little 



while to 



> see how you accomplish all of the changes. Please share your 



progress 



> with us. I much appreciate it.



> 



> Terry



> 



> Terry Neal



> Bozeman, MT



> 82PT40 6V92TA



> 74FC34 6V53T



> 



> 



> 



> bumpersbird wrote:



> 



> > Terry,



> >



> > Here is the responce from Xantrex Customer Serive.



> >



> > I did buy 2 of these units. They are new in the box and Sun 



Electric



> > is an aurthorized dealer so the warrantie should be good.



> >



> > I spoke with several tech guys and of course got several

diffrent



> > answers. About all aspects of these units.



> >



> > I was most impressed with a guy from Buddy Gregg Motorhomes in



> > Knoxville TN. Wayne Clapp a veteran BB Tech. His first

question 



was



> > did I plan on keeping the coach? Well of course. Then you

must get



> > these inverters out of the engine compartment and into one of

the



> > bays. So were are going the reinvent the wheel. Not really a 



problem



> > the old compartment is really not large enough for the new 



inveters.



> >



> > With the inverter box empty I think I'll throw in a couple

more



> > Lifeline gell cells. That will make 8 house batts. Wayne also





told me



> > he can with the addition of a few relays make the AC run on

Batts.



> > With the additional 2 Lifeline's and the 2 new invetrers

running 



off



> > of 8 Batts. in 2, four Batt. banks I should be able to run 2

AC'S.



> > The 300 amp alternator should be able to tow the line. I

would be



> > nice to run the roof air with out the generator. Any help in

fuel



> > economy is welcomed.



> >



> > Any body want to buy a electric grill for their coach? Mine

is 



coming



> > out, slide and electric components included.



> >



> > I also bought 2 RC7/GS controlers off of e-bay. The were the

best



> > deal for the $'s.



> >



> > Kurt Horvath



> > 95 PT-42 WLWB



> >



> > [ref:00D3Wjr.500350dxJ:ref]



> >



> > Dear kurt daniel horvath,



> >



> > "Can the RC/GS Remote Panel be use in place of the RC7."



> >



> > No , this will not work properly. You are better off trying

to 



locate



> > an RC7 by seaching the internet and the many dealers who may

have 



a



> > NOS unit.



> >



> > "Is the 24 month warrantie good on these new in the box

units?"



> >



> > If the unit is new in the box and purchased from proper

dealer who



> > purchased it from a Xantrex Distributor than we shall honor

the



> > warranty.



> >



> > Xantrex Technical Support



> > Customer Service Operations



> > Xantrex Technology Inc.



> > Email: customerservice@... <"customerser"vice%40xantrex.com>



> > Website: www.xantrex.com



> > t: (360) 925-5097 / (800) 670-0707



> > f: (360) 435-2636



> >



> > Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message, including any



> > attachments, is for the sole use of any recipient(s) and may 



contain



> > confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized

review,



> > use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited. If you are not

the



> > intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail

and



> > destroy all copies of the original message.



> >



> > --------------- Original Message ---------------



> > From: kurt daniel horvath [kguns@... <"kguns%"40hughes.net>]



> > To: customerservice@... <"customerser"vice%40xantrex.com>



> > Subject: Fw: Case Number (00102708) [ ref:00D3Wjr.500350dxJ:ref

]



> >



> > Is the 24 month warrantie good on these new in the box units?



> >



> > ----Original Message----



> > From: kguns@... <"kguns%"40hughes.net>



> > Date: 05/21/2008 3:27 PM



> > To: ... <"customerser"vice%40xantrex.com>>



> > Subj: RE: Case Number (00102708) [ ref:00D3Wjr.500350dxJ:ref

]



> >



> > Dear Mr.Nick Klien.



> >



> > Can the RC/GS Remote Panel be use in place of the RC7.



> > If so, are there any peculiarities involed or is it just a

simple



> > choice of which control is available.



> > Yes price is a consideration here the old unites are new and

are 



an



> > exceptional deal at this time.



> >



> > Thank You for your time,



> > Kurt Horvath



> >



> > --- In "WanderlodgeForum%40yahoogroups.com"





> > <"Wanderlodge"Forum%40yahoogroups.com>,

Terry Neal  



wrote:



> > >



> > > Hi Kurt,



> > >



> > > Did you receive a response from Xantrex about the RC/GS

remote 



to



> > > control this RV 3012 M? I am thinking about ordering one

too &



> > replace



> > > all of the old components such as the Redline unit in my

PT. 



Can't



> > find



> > > any info about the two working together.



> > > Terry



> > >



> > > bumpersbird wrote:



> > >



> > > > Here is my responce from Xantrex to the RV3012M

question.



> > > >



> > > > I am awaiting a second e-mail to confirm if the new

control 



panel



> > > > the RC/GS will funtion as well as the older RC7.



> > > >



> > > > According to my local tech guy it will. You should

be able to 



set



> > > > the inverter/charger to your particular application.



> > > >



> > > > Kurt Horvath



> > > > 95 PT-42



> > > >



> > > > [ref:00D3Wjr.500350dxJ:ref]



> > > >



> > > > Dear Kurt Horvath,



> > > >



> > > > They are very similar units. Below is an

explanation of the



> > RV3012M



> > > > model and then the RV 3012 GS :



> > > >



> > > > The RV3012M, which is 3000 watts respectively.

These units 



were



> > only



> > > > used for Monaco coaches, and the M designation

referred to a



> > series



> > > > of default programming items requested by Monaco.

(See the 



section



> > > > on “RC7 & RC7GS Setup Menus”.)



> > > >



> > > > Two knockouts on the inverter were left open at the

factory.



> > > > Otherwise they were physically indistinguishable

from the 



regular



> > > > version, and had no other unique features. Warranty

is the 



same.



> > > >



> > > > The "software" defaults which may be different from

standard



> > models



> > > > were:



> > > > SEARCH SENSE – DEFEAT



> > > > BAT CAPACITY – AUTO



> > > > BAT TYPE – LIQUID LEAD ACID



> > > > CHARGE RATE – 80%



> > > >



> > > > The RV 3012 GS is the newer version that replaced

the RV 



series.



> > > > This series looks almost the same as the original

RV and 



largely



> > has



> > > > the same specs and functions. Its main visual

distinction is 



that



> > > > it only has two com ports, not three. There were a

few



> > enhancements



> > > > made with the Auto Gen Start feature and

programming.



> > > >



> > > > Both models were designed for RV use.



> > > >



> > > > "RV3012 M be reprogramed to standard specs? If so

what would 



the



> > > > cost be?"



> > > >



> > > > You could program it yourself if you have a RC7,

but if you 



do not



> > > > have an RC7 then you might be able to locate one by

doing



> > a "google"



> > > > search of the dealers online otherwise they are no

longer



> > available



> > > > as they have been obsolete for awhile now.



> > > >



> > > > It would be good to update the system rather than

repair the



> > freedom



> > > > if they are really 15 years old.



> > > >



> > > > I suggest the newer RV 3012 GS model rather than

the "M" 



model.



> > > >



> > > > But if it is a big difference in cost the "M" model

will be 



fine



> > if



> > > > an RC7 comes with it.



> > > >



> > > > For all correspondence regarding this issue, please

make sure 



to



> > > > include the case number (00102708) in the subject

line of the



> > email.



> > > >



> > > > Technical Support



> > > > Customer Service Operations



> > > > Xantrex Technology Inc.



> > > > Website: www.xantrex.com



> > > >



> > > > Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message,

including any



> > > > attachments, is for the sole use of any

recipient(s) and may



> > contain



> > > > confidential and privileged information. Any

unauthorized 



review,



> > > > use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited. If

you are not 



the



> > > > intended recipient, please contact the sender by

reply e-mail 



and



> > > > destroy all copies of the original message.



> > > >



> > > > -----------------------------------------



> > > >



> > > > Case number: 00102708



> > > > Case Subject: Xantrex RV 3012 M Inverter / Charger



> > > > Description: Could you please explain the diffrence

between 



the



> > > > model RV 3012 M and the new RV 3012 GS. Is it just

an older 



model



> > or



> > > > are there significant diffrences between the two

units? 



RV3012 M



> > be



> > > > reprogramed to standard specs? If so what would the

cost be?



Can



> > the



> > > > model



> > > > I have the old Freedom Combi aqua blue colored

units in my 



coach.



> > > > They are 15 years old. would it be better to

replace these 



unites



> > > > with the RV 3012 M or should I just have them

refurbished. I 



am in



> > > > the process of refubishing all the systems so now

is a good 



time



> > to



> > > > do the inverter sysytem.



> > > > Thanks for your time,



> > > >



> > > > Kurt Horvath



> > > >



> > > >



> > > > --- In "WanderlodgeForum%40yahoogroups.com"





> > <"Wanderlodge"Forum%40yahoogroups.com>



> > > > <"Wanderlodge"Forum%40yahoogroups.com>,

"Dorn Hetzel"



> > 



> > > > wrote:



> > > > >



> > > > > ---------- Forwarded message ----------



> > > > > From: Nick Klein >



> > > > > Date: Tue, May 20, 2008 at 3:42 PM



> > > > > Subject: RE: Case Number (00102618) [



> > ref:00D3Wjr.500350ZIy:ref ]



> > > > > To: "dorn@" 



> > > > >



> > > > >



> > > > > [ref:00D3Wjr.500350ZIy:ref]



> > > > >



> > > > >



> > > > > Dear dorn,



> > > > >



> > > > > They are basically exactly the same units, but

below is an



> > > > explanation:



> > > > >



> > > > > This line consisted of models RV2012M,

RV2512M, and RV3012M,



> > which



> > > > were



> > > > > 2000, 2500 and 3000 watts respectively. These

units were 



only



> > > > used for



> > > > > Monaco coaches, and the M designation referred

to a series 



of



> > > > default



> > > > > programming items requested by Monaco. (See

the section 



on "RC7



> > &



> > > > RC7GS



> > > > > Setup Menus".)



> > > > >



> > > > > Two knockouts on the inverter were left open

at the factory.



> > > > Otherwise they



> > > > > were physically indistinguishable from the

regular version, 



and



> > > > had no other



> > > > > unique features. Warranty is the same.



> > > > >



> > > > > The "software" defaults which may be different

from standard



> > > > models were:



> > > > > SEARCH SENSE - DEFEAT



> > > > > BAT CAPACITY - AUTO



> > > > > BAT TYPE - LIQUID LEAD ACID



> > > > > CHARGE RATE - 80%



> > > > >



> > > > > Yes, both models were designed for RV use.



> > > > >



> > > > >



> > > > > For all correspondence regarding this issue,

please make 



sure to



> > > > include the



> > > > > case number (00102618) in the subject line of

the email.



> > > > >



> > > > >



> > > > > Technical Support



> > > > > Customer Service Operations



> > > > > Xantrex Technology Inc.



> > > > > Website: www.xantrex.com



> > > > >



> > > > > Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message,

including any



> > > > attachments, is



> > > > > for the sole use of any recipient(s) and may

contain



> > confidential



> > > > and



> > > > > privileged information. Any unauthorized

review, use,



> > disclosure or



> > > > > distribution is prohibited. If you are not the

intended



> > recipient,



> > > > please



> > > > > contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy

all copies 



of the



> > > > original



> > > > > message.



> > > > >



> > > > > -----------------------------------------



> > > > >



> > > > > Case number: 00102618



> > > > > Case Subject: how is rv3012M different from

other rv3012



> > > > > Description: Can you explain the differences

between 



RV3012M and



> > > > other



> > > > > RV3012 models. What does M series software

mean? Are these



> > > > models still



> > > > > suitable for an RV application?



> > > > >



> > > >



> > > >



> > >



> >



> >



>









 
				

[Stephen Birtles]

Dorn
put the inverter in the first bay behind the batteries it is 8 feet
and just run bigger wire to supply the inverter
Stephen 77fc35 same as yours
905 328 0162
dupreeproducts.com

--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Dorn Hetzel"
wrote:
>
> In my 77FC35 the batteries are at the far left front corner, no
space for
> the inverter in their compartment anyway.
>
> The current battery charger (not an inverter) is about midway back
on the
> left side, same compartment as sewage host storage, probably ten
feet from
> the batteries, doesn't really seem like an optimum location for the
> Xantrex.
>
> Would I be crazy to put it inside the coach? There's a storage
compartment
> right behind the drivers seat that's probably big enough, and within
2 feet
> of the batteries.
>
> Another question. The Xantrex hookup diagrams seem to show the
batteries
> directly connected to the 3012, and all coach loads hung behind it.
Since I
> have combined coach and starting batteries in my 77, I don't think I
should
> be running starting current through the 3012?
>
> I was considering pulling the generator, which we never ever use, and
> filling that compartment with "house" batteries and a more
weatherproof box
> for the inverter... Too whacky?
>
> Dorn Hetzel
> 77FC35
> Hogansville, GA
>
> On Fri, May 30, 2008 at 1:59 PM, bumpersbird wrote:
>
> > Terry,
> >
> > Just to be sure I called Sun Electronics again to verify their status
> > as a Xanterx dealer and they confirmed that they are a Xantrex dealer.
> >
> > I would like to get this all done in the next 2 to 3 weeks but if
> > Icould look into the future, you know what I mean.
> >
> > I am still working on the engine bay cooling fans and I just got
> > a '07 DDEC IV ECM with it programing to my coach as a back-up. So
> > I've got a lot stuff to play with.
> >
> >
> > Kurt Horvath 95 PT-42 WLWB
> >
> > --- In
WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com,
> > Terry Neal wrote:
> > >
> > > Thanks Kurt. Nice report.
> > >
> > > I too was getting differing stories from different people. One of
> > the
> > > techs at Xantrex told me Sun Electronics wasn't even an authorized
> > > dealer or distributor & there was no record of them in their
> > listing.
> > > Of course, he didn't speak English that I could understand real
> > well so
> > > he may have be sitting in Bombay? Also, he kept saying there was
> > no RV
> > > 3012 "M" inverter either.
> > >
> > > In my PT, to install an inverter outside the engine compartment
> > means I
> > > change a lot of wiring. Yours is probably the same. May be the
> > best
> > > solution though. I was also thinking I may be able to build a
> > > compartment where the Rediline used to be and put it in there?
> > Like
> > > your idea of running a couple of ACs with the Detroit while
> > underway. I
> > > take it you are going to wire your system with the Gen Start
> > feature.
> > > That would be a good idea too.
> > >
> > > Do you have a time frame for all of this? I may wait a little
> > while to
> > > see how you accomplish all of the changes. Please share your
> > progress
> > > with us. I much appreciate it.
> > >
> > > Terry
> > >
> > > Terry Neal
> > > Bozeman, MT
> > > 82PT40 6V92TA
> > > 74FC34 6V53T
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > bumpersbird wrote:
> > >
> > > > Terry,
> > > >
> > > > Here is the responce from Xantrex Customer Serive.
> > > >
> > > > I did buy 2 of these units. They are new in the box and Sun
> > Electric
> > > > is an aurthorized dealer so the warrantie should be good.
> > > >
> > > > I spoke with several tech guys and of course got several diffrent
> > > > answers. About all aspects of these units.
> > > >
> > > > I was most impressed with a guy from Buddy Gregg Motorhomes in
> > > > Knoxville TN. Wayne Clapp a veteran BB Tech. His first question
> > was
> > > > did I plan on keeping the coach? Well of course. Then you must get
> > > > these inverters out of the engine compartment and into one of the
> > > > bays. So were are going the reinvent the wheel. Not really a
> > problem
> > > > the old compartment is really not large enough for the new
> > inveters.
> > > >
> > > > With the inverter box empty I think I'll throw in a couple more
> > > > Lifeline gell cells. That will make 8 house batts. Wayne also
> > told me
> > > > he can with the addition of a few relays make the AC run on Batts.
> > > > With the additional 2 Lifeline's and the 2 new invetrers running
> > off
> > > > of 8 Batts. in 2, four Batt. banks I should be able to run 2 AC'S.
> > > > The 300 amp alternator should be able to tow the line. I would be
> > > > nice to run the roof air with out the generator. Any help in fuel
> > > > economy is welcomed.
> > > >
> > > > Any body want to buy a electric grill for their coach? Mine is
> > coming
> > > > out, slide and electric components included.
> > > >
> > > > I also bought 2 RC7/GS controlers off of e-bay. The were the best
> > > > deal for the $'s.
> > > >
> > > > Kurt Horvath
> > > > 95 PT-42 WLWB
> > > >
> > > > [ref:00D3Wjr.500350dxJ:ref]
> > > >
> > > > Dear kurt daniel horvath,
> > > >
> > > > "Can the RC/GS Remote Panel be use in place of the RC7."
> > > >
> > > > No , this will not work properly. You are better off trying to
> > locate
> > > > an RC7 by seaching the internet and the many dealers who may have
> > a
> > > > NOS unit.
> > > >
> > > > "Is the 24 month warrantie good on these new in the box units?"
> > > >
> > > > If the unit is new in the box and purchased from proper dealer who
> > > > purchased it from a Xantrex Distributor than we shall honor the
> > > > warranty.
> > > >
> > > > Xantrex Technical Support
> > > > Customer Service Operations
> > > > Xantrex Technology Inc.
> > > > Email: customerservice@

> > >
> > > > Website: http://www.xantrex.com
> > > > t: (360) 925-5097 / (800) 670-0707
> > > > f: (360) 435-2636
> > > >
> > > > Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message, including any
> > > > attachments, is for the sole use of any recipient(s) and may
> > contain
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> > > > destroy all copies of the original message.
> > > >
> > > > --------------- Original Message ---------------
> > > > From: kurt daniel horvath [kguns@

> > >]
> > > > To: customerservice@

> > >
> > > > Subject: Fw: Case Number (00102708) [ ref:00D3Wjr.500350dxJ:ref ]
> > > >
> > > > Is the 24 month warrantie good on these new in the box units?
> > > >
> > > > ----Original Message----
> > > > From: kguns@ >
> > > > Date: 05/21/2008 3:27 PM
> > > > To:
> > >>
> > > > Subj: RE: Case Number (00102708) [ ref:00D3Wjr.500350dxJ:ref ]
> > > >
> > > > Dear Mr.Nick Klien.
> > > >
> > > > Can the RC/GS Remote Panel be use in place of the RC7.
> > > > If so, are there any peculiarities involed or is it just a simple
> > > > choice of which control is available.
> > > > Yes price is a consideration here the old unites are new and are
> > an
> > > > exceptional deal at this time.
> > > >
> > > > Thank You for your time,
> > > > Kurt Horvath
> > > >
> > > > --- In
WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
> > > >
\
>,
> > Terry Neal
> > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Hi Kurt,
> > > > >
> > > > > Did you receive a response from Xantrex about the RC/GS remote
> > to
> > > > > control this RV 3012 M? I am thinking about ordering one too &
> > > > replace
> > > > > all of the old components such as the Redline unit in my PT.
> > Can't
> > > > find
> > > > > any info about the two working together.
> > > > > Terry
> > > > >
> > > > > bumpersbird wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Here is my responce from Xantrex to the RV3012M question.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I am awaiting a second e-mail to confirm if the new control
> > panel
> > > > > > the RC/GS will funtion as well as the older RC7.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > According to my local tech guy it will. You should be able to
> > set
> > > > > > the inverter/charger to your particular application.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Kurt Horvath
> > > > > > 95 PT-42
> > > > > >
> > > > > > [ref:00D3Wjr.500350dxJ:ref]
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Dear Kurt Horvath,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > They are very similar units. Below is an explanation of the
> > > > RV3012M
> > > > > > model and then the RV 3012 GS :
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The RV3012M, which is 3000 watts respectively. These units
> > were
> > > > only
> > > > > > used for Monaco coaches, and the M designation referred to a
> > > > series
> > > > > > of default programming items requested by Monaco. (See the
> > section
> > > > > > on “RC7 & RC7GS Setup Menus”.)
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Two knockouts on the inverter were left open at the factory.
> > > > > > Otherwise they were physically indistinguishable from the
> > regular
> > > > > > version, and had no other unique features. Warranty is the
> > same.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The "software" defaults which may be different from standard
> > > > models
> > > > > > were:
> > > > > > SEARCH SENSE – DEFEAT
> > > > > > BAT CAPACITY – AUTO
> > > > > > BAT TYPE – LIQUID LEAD ACID
> > > > > > CHARGE RATE – 80%
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The RV 3012 GS is the newer version that replaced the RV
> > series.
> > > > > > This series looks almost the same as the original RV and
> > largely
> > > > has
> > > > > > the same specs and functions. Its main visual distinction is
> > that
> > > > > > it only has two com ports, not three. There were a few
> > > > enhancements
> > > > > > made with the Auto Gen Start feature and programming.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Both models were designed for RV use.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > "RV3012 M be reprogramed to standard specs? If so what would
> > the
> > > > > > cost be?"
> > > > > >
> > > > > > You could program it yourself if you have a RC7, but if you
> > do not
> > > > > > have an RC7 then you might be able to locate one by doing
> > > > a "google"
> > > > > > search of the dealers online otherwise they are no longer
> > > > available
> > > > > > as they have been obsolete for awhile now.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > It would be good to update the system rather than repair the
> > > > freedom
> > > > > > if they are really 15 years old.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I suggest the newer RV 3012 GS model rather than the "M"
> > model.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > But if it is a big difference in cost the "M" model will be
> > fine
> > > > if
> > > > > > an RC7 comes with it.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > For all correspondence regarding this issue, please make sure
> > to
> > > > > > include the case number (00102708) in the subject line of the
> > > > email.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Technical Support
> > > > > > Customer Service Operations
> > > > > > Xantrex Technology Inc.
> > > > > > Website: http://www.xantrex.com
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message, including any
> > > > > > attachments, is for the sole use of any recipient(s) and may
> > > > contain
> > > > > > confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized
> > review,
> > > > > > use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited. If you are not
> > the
> > > > > > intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail
> > and
> > > > > > destroy all copies of the original message.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > -----------------------------------------
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Case number: 00102708
> > > > > > Case Subject: Xantrex RV 3012 M Inverter / Charger
> > > > > > Description: Could you please explain the diffrence between
> > the
> > > > > > model RV 3012 M and the new RV 3012 GS. Is it just an older
> > model
> > > > or
> > > > > > are there significant diffrences between the two units?
> > RV3012 M
> > > > be
> > > > > > reprogramed to standard specs? If so what would the cost be?
> > Can
> > > > the
> > > > > > model
> > > > > > I have the old Freedom Combi aqua blue colored units in my
> > coach.
> > > > > > They are 15 years old. would it be better to replace these
> > unites
> > > > > > with the RV 3012 M or should I just have them refurbished. I
> > am in
> > > > > > the process of refubishing all the systems so now is a good
> > time
> > > > to
> > > > > > do the inverter sysytem.
> > > > > > Thanks for your time,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Kurt Horvath
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --- In
WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
> > > >

> > >
> > > > > >
\
>,
> > "Dorn Hetzel"
> > > >
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> > > > > > > From: Nick Klein
> > > > > > > Date: Tue, May 20, 2008 at 3:42 PM
> > > > > > > Subject: RE: Case Number (00102618) [
> > > > ref:00D3Wjr.500350ZIy:ref ]
> > > > > > > To: "dorn@"
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > [ref:00D3Wjr.500350ZIy:ref]
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Dear dorn,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > They are basically exactly the same units, but below is an
> > > > > > explanation:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > This line consisted of models RV2012M, RV2512M, and RV3012M,
> > > > which
> > > > > > were
> > > > > > > 2000, 2500 and 3000 watts respectively. These units were
> > only
> > > > > > used for
> > > > > > > Monaco coaches, and the M designation referred to a series
> > of
> > > > > > default
> > > > > > > programming items requested by Monaco. (See the section
> > on "RC7
> > > > &
> > > > > > RC7GS
> > > > > > > Setup Menus".)
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Two knockouts on the inverter were left open at the factory.
> > > > > > Otherwise they
> > > > > > > were physically indistinguishable from the regular version,
> > and
> > > > > > had no other
> > > > > > > unique features. Warranty is the same.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > The "software" defaults which may be different from standard
> > > > > > models were:
> > > > > > > SEARCH SENSE - DEFEAT
> > > > > > > BAT CAPACITY - AUTO
> > > > > > > BAT TYPE - LIQUID LEAD ACID
> > > > > > > CHARGE RATE - 80%
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Yes, both models were designed for RV use.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > For all correspondence regarding this issue, please make
> > sure to
> > > > > > include the
> > > > > > > case number (00102618) in the subject line of the email.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Technical Support
> > > > > > > Customer Service Operations
> > > > > > > Xantrex Technology Inc.
> > > > > > > Website: http://www.xantrex.com
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message, including any
> > > > > > attachments, is
> > > > > > > for the sole use of any recipient(s) and may contain
> > > > confidential
> > > > > > and
> > > > > > > privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use,
> > > > disclosure or
> > > > > > > distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended
> > > > recipient,
> > > > > > please
> > > > > > > contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies
> > of the
> > > > > > original
> > > > > > > message.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > -----------------------------------------
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Case number: 00102618
> > > > > > > Case Subject: how is rv3012M different from other rv3012
> > > > > > > Description: Can you explain the differences between
> > RV3012M and
> > > > > > other
> > > > > > > RV3012 models. What does M series software mean? Are these
> > > > > > models still
> > > > > > > suitable for an RV application?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
>

[Stephen Hare]

Hello All,

on those Cruise Airs-

Can some one explain to me the system under the bus. I do understand there is a compressor of some sort, and a fan. However being 110V, it must be similar to a "window unit A/C" set up?

Where would one get a compressor serviced that is not coming on, (cooling) is it common, specialty?

Who would work on it, its of course not automotive type?

Expensive (compressors)

One I'm looking at needs work on one, not cooling- fan only blows

Thanks for the insite guys!

Stephen

P.C. FL

Birdless (considering acruise-airtype A/C bird)

On Fri, May 30, 2008 at 7:56 PM, <"erniecarpet@aol.com"> wrote:

Terry, have you had any service tech look at your Cruise Airs? My front one works, ok. The mid one needs help. The rear, I gave the compressor to Ralph a few years back when I installed a roof air.

Ernie Ekberg
83PT40
Livingston, Montana

wishing that I at least could open the windows instead of running the HEAT!!

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